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  1. Just now, Grunt said:

    Well, viewing that and now knowing the rules, the Prophet must have an unbelievable watch.

    It's all about context, Uchdorf was a pilot and a senior VP at Lufthansa, he also has/had a relationship with Breitling. He was a businessman who along with wearing Bespoke suits and $500.00 dollar shoes couldn't bring himself to slap a casio on his wrist.

  2. 23 minutes ago, Vort said:

    You didn't miss much. A bunch of guys talking about how Millennials don't adequately appreciate high-end mechanical watches, and an etiquette breakdown about not wearing a watch fancier than your boss's, not wearing too nice a watch when talking to investors, and how cool an Apple watch is because it shows you're practical and don't care about such nonsense. Such posturing and posing I don't think I've seen since high school. It's embarrassing to read, actually.

    I can't read the whole article, I have noticed that people in general do not wear watches as much as was common in the past. Where I live if you wear a watch it's usually the village watch which is the apple whatever version they are now out with.

    As far a watch etiquette depending on the type of business your in that's actually a real thing.

    As someone who owns several nice watches I think that it goes without saying that past a certain price point they are jewelry and are meant to make a statement.  You can call it posturing and posing if you want.

  3. On 8/19/2019 at 3:36 PM, Friend said:

    I became a member when I was 11 and I was the only member in my family, I've always been in and out of going to church. When I went to college I attended church regularly but I still wasn't really keen and I started to date someone I met at church and I fell pregnant with my son, we got married and within 18 months we were divorced. I never went back to church, last October I met my fiance on a dating app for LDS, I wasn't really honest with him about my inactivity in the church because I was worried he wouldn't want to be with me. I misled him into thinking I had a temple recommend, I feel really bad about it and I want to marry him. Some of my friends say he will still want to marry me now and when I am ready to be married in the temple we can do that then, but they aren't members and I don't think they understand. If you were engaged and thought you were going to be married in the temple would you be willing to be married and later be married at the temple? Also, I don't go to church at the moment but I would like to go again and I want to marry my fiance in the temple but it's not been a good time for me to go to church. What do you think I should do? And, I kind of fabricated that my son was conceived before I was married, I just didn't want him to judge me. Do you think I have to tell him? 

    I am glad to see that you are following this thread.

    My 2 cents for what they are worth. You need to be honest. I agree that you don't want to spill your guts to a total stranger and you shouldn't your private matters are just that private. But when things like marriage or long term relationships start to get discussed you need to open up a little so the guy knows what he is getting into.

    You said you meet on a dating app?  Have you dated in person?

    21 hours ago, Friend said:

    It isn't that easy as to just get over it 

    The whole anxiety thing.....yeah get over it. It comes down to what's important to you. Take a valium if you need to but if you ever expect this relationship to progress you need to get to church.

  4. On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    After disclosing this to my sister, he meet with his Bishop, and something his Bishop told him was "In the five years that I have been doing this, you are the most wicked man that has ever sat in that chair." Amen.

    I call horse dootie on that. 

    On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    On a personal note, I had been through a disfellowshipment of my own after my mission, only I was disfellowship for a long 2 years and what I did was NOTHING compared to what he did. I am shocked about how lenient they were with him!

    So what? it's none of your business and you shouldn't give it 2 thoughts.

     

    On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    He was reinstated and blessed his child. And as far as I know is in full fellowship

    Good for him. 

     

     

  5. On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    Please help me answer these question.

    1. Do you believe that he is a sociopath? (Hint: I do.)

    No, look up the definition before you throw that word around

    On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    2. Given you know about his childhood, sexual abuse, addictions, do you really believe that someone like that, who was so awful could change in a year after 11 months of disfellowshipment. (Hint: I don't) I do believe people can change, repent, and be forgiven, but I don't believe BIL had enough time to do that. I mean 11 months of disfellowshipment is nothing. I know of people who have been excommunicated for way less with at least a waiting period of 5 to 10 years before they would be reconsidered for re-baptism.

    Can they change in that short a period of time? maybe. I don't know what I do know is that the amount of time he has spent being "dis-fellowshiped" should be irrelevant to you as you are not his priesthood leader.

    On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    3. My parents do not know about any of this. I want to tell them so bad. If this was happening to my daughter I would be irate. Should I tell my parents about this?

    No, it is not your place to air your sisters dirty laundry, I'm a little vague on as to why they would have a true confessions session with you and your wife. 

    On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    4. I want to talk to my sister in a clam and diplomatic way to help her understand that she still might be getting duped by him. I don't believe someone with years of this behaving suddenly changes course after 1 year. When I asked BIL about had he had the intense therapy that is needed for his situation my LS responded "I am this therapist." AHH!!!

    So your sister is a trained therapist? If she is she is probably crossing some ethical boundries. If she is an arm chair therapist like me she may be in real trouble. What's your question here?

    On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    5. Follow up on #4. My sister has a very rigid and high expectation of pornography use. At our meeting, she said "BIL knows if he uses pornography even once that I am leaving him." She seemed very serious about that. So, my concern is that most people like BIL that have 10+ years of hard pornography use relapse all the time in following years. My concern is now that he knows where the goal posts are he will hide the times he does relapse. Thus building the guilt building up, which guilt will case him to re-enter the addiction cycles he "once" was in. I want to tell my sister that she might as well pack her bags.

    Well on the plus side sociopaths don't feel guilt in a traditional sense, so that diagnosis is ruled out. Things can't be so black and white. He will relapse, and if there is no give he will hide it.

    On 8/5/2019 at 8:13 AM, faithful_father said:

    6. I want to contact his old bishop (they have since moved wards) and stake president and ask them what the hell they were thinking to not tell her parents, and to not counsel her to leave him. So, should I contact their old bishop?

    No, conversations with him and his bishop are none of your business. 

     

    Look if it as me I would pull my sister aside and smack her on the back of the head. I would have one very firm conversation with her and let her know that I am available to help if she needs it and then never mention it again. Ever.

  6. On 3/28/2019 at 12:32 PM, scottyg said:

     Another thing to consider since she is LDS, is that if she conceived, she would be unable to have the child sealed to her...children can only be sealed to both a father and a mother, not just 1. If she eventually got married, and wanted a sealing, she would need to seek permission from the actual father of the child...it would get very messy, complicated, and difficult. I would recommend against it - it is difficult, but better to wait upon the Lord.

    I'm not sure this is true at all, please provide some proof.

  7. 1 hour ago, LumosLDS said:

    You think so? I just always assumed any type of pornography use needed to go through the bishop.

    I think so, but i'm just some random guy on the internet. You need to ask your Bishop this question as there is no one answer that applies to everyone.

  8. On 6/25/2019 at 6:43 AM, LumosLDS said:

    Alright, so, basically I need some advice.

    I'm staying in another country for 3 months, just got here a couple of weeks ago. (Originally from the US). I used to struggle with pornography a little bit and repented of it all a while ago. Earlier today, I had a relapse and looked at some. I have been 100% clean ever since I first confessed, well over a year ago.

    Clearly, I'm freaking out and spiraling, please help.

    Pump the brakes, One relapse since full repentance over a year ago? I'd put this on the home repentance plan and not get super wound up about it. You are now an adult, if you can identify what led to the relapse and ensure there are no further issues I would get on my knees ask for forgiveness and go about my business.

    However if you really feel like you need to confess in the flesh to a Bishop by all means please do so. 

  9. 11 minutes ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    You, and anyone, "can" disagree with whatever you want, whenever you want.

    I'm talking about whether it's a good idea or not. And I contend that, as a general rule, it's probably better to find ways to agree with wise righteous men who have positions of authority in the church unless we have good doctrinal reasons to not do so. Defending interests in homosexuality, masturbation, and oral sex don't seem like good doctrinal reasons to me.

    On this I can agree 100%. We are better off following their council in all respects.  

  10. 3 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    Unless they have admitted (as they have in rare cases) that something was a mistake, by what standard do we judge which of their views are mistakes and which are not?

    We need to look at the works individually and see how they line up with the doctrine.  Our leaders purposefully do not speak ex cathedra. Their words are carefully chosen and we are the ones who tend to add prophetic warning/advisories to them.

    When is our prophet speaking as a Prophet and when is he speaking as a wise righteous man with whom we can disagree?

  11. 3 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    How do you know your opinion on the Miracle of Forgiveness doesn't miss the mark by a country mile?

    I don't.

    I do know that the Miracle of Forgiveness is not an inspired work, it isn't cannon, it hasn't been ratified by the body of the church. Furthermore it was written by Elder Kimball not President Kimball.

  12. 4 hours ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    Prove it.

    (Edit: specifically, prove that this statement is false: "[masturbation] too often leads to grievous sin, even to that sin against nature, homosexuality. For, done in private, it evolves often into mutual masturbation – practiced with another person of the same sex – and thence into total homosexuality."

    I'm taking a common sense approach here, I'm not gay, most of the men I go to church with are not gay that I know of. I will assume that you also are not a homosexual (an assumption on my part is that we are all guilty of this sin) I'd go as far as to say anyone who claims not to have ever done it is a liar or needs to be immediately admitted to heaven.

    I would suspect that most people myself included have not experienced the progression as outlined by then Elder Kimball.  Most gay people I know did not "become" gay. 

    So no I cannot prove it, the statement on its face falls flat to most reasonable people. Was he wrong? I wouldn't rule his theory out for everyone, but for 99.9% of people I'll go with he missed the mark on that one.

  13. 1 minute ago, jojo01 said:

    Last year, during my temple recommend interview I briefly talked about my sister's relationship with the Stake president. He was definitely in tune with the spirit because he brought it up himself, after asking the question. He said "how is your relationship with your sister?." I responded honestly.He said this is a tricky question as long as there is no sexual, physical or emotional abuse he doesn't see the reason to refuse giving you your recommend, but don't get discourage. Things will get better as you get older.

    You may be right that it wasn't my finest moment to dismiss her criticism with "haters gonna hate" but I was irritated that she was airing the dirty laundry.  My parents certainly didn't need to witness all that negativity. You may be right that no one is acting like an adult here, but what would you do? I've stayed quiet and ignored some outbursts in the past to maintain the relationship. I've also spoken against it and things haven't changed.

    Boundaries need to be set. She clearly thinks she can have an outburst and get a rise out of you. My advice, assuming you start talking again is the next time she says something offensive or negative towards you leave. Go home immediately don't respond. if she is in your home ask her to leave. Don't discuss it. A few episodes of you leaving or her getting kicked out she will get it and change her behavior or never come around either way problem solved.

  14. On 6/22/2019 at 8:26 AM, The Folk Prophet said:

    There's this strange idea out there that rejecting Spencer W. Kimball's teachings is somehow better for us. Why? How? Even if masturbation doesn't lead to homosexuality, isn't the spirit of the idea sound -- that giving into carnal sexual urges outside the bounds of marriage drives us away from the proper God-ordained use of sex? We like to throw the baby out with the bathwater -- and that's when it starts sounding very quickly like pointing and mocking from the great and spacious building. Adding to that, there is no proof, whatsoever, that he was wrong on his ideas. All there is is a bunch of anecdotal, unreliable testimony from sexual deviants.

    I think we can all agree that masturbation does not lead to homosexuality.

    Now the idea that we should avoid this practice is sound, we should learn to control our carnal urges and do nothing that distances us from the presence of God or the ability to be open and receptive to his guiding influence. So the baby should not be thrown out with the bath water,  we should be able to see and understand what the underlying message is as it applies to all of us. However there is a reason that this book is no longer in circulation and is no longer used as a part of the repentance process. In general most people cannot see beyond what they don't agree with and are unable to pull out the pure wisdom and council that we are given in that book.

  15. On 6/22/2019 at 7:56 AM, MrShorty said:

     Is every opinion that runs counter to Pres. Kimball's opinion (or other prophet/apostle's opinion) automatically coming from the great and spacious building? 

    No, since the MIracle of Forgiveness was mentioned that is a book full of his opinions, some good, some great and some missed the mark by a country mile.  

     

    On 6/22/2019 at 7:56 AM, MrShorty said:

     Is it possible to hold and express and opinion contrary to a prophet's opinion and not be on the road towards the great and spacious building?

    Yes, because our leaders on not infallible, they make mistakes.

     

    On the whole however it is often wiser to heed their council rather than not. 

  16. 18 hours ago, jojo01 said:

    I will definitely go to the temple and ask my heavenly father for forgiveness for not handling the matter in the most christlike way. Overtime, my hope is that she will see that her relationship with others is more important than overreacting and making herself the victim. Thank you again!

    Maybe think about this before you head back to the house of the Lord

    Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

     

    18 hours ago, jojo01 said:

    It is very likely that she harbors grudges over the fact that I have called her out a few times. When I sent the message "haters gonna be haters", I was trying to help my sister and brother-in-law understand that I know that they are reacting this way because of previous incidents where they got upset at me. If it was anyone else who had made the video, I know that they wouldn't have reacted this way.

    haters gonna hate? how old are you 15? how does that statement make anyone see things your way or prove any sort of point other than being childish.

    Look this is a difficult situation but it sounds like neither one of you are acting like an adult here. 

  17. I think you should say nothing, I wasn't there but was any irreparable harm done? not likely. Second, think about what he said and then think about what you heard, lastly think about what he ment.

    This member of the stake president does not speak for the church this was his opinion and you may not agree with it (so what) no doctrinal boundaries were crossed. You might have raised your hand and asked him to clarify exactly what he ment but that moment has passed and so now you need to do nothing.

  18. On 6/7/2019 at 11:11 PM, Scott said:

    OK, I'll bite.

    What are all the leftists policies that led to the San Francisco debacle?  

     

    Well you can start with proposition 47 passed in 2014.

    The measure required misdemeanor sentencing instead of felony for the following crimes:

    Shoplifting, where the value of property stolen does not exceed $950
    Grand theft, where the value of the stolen property does not exceed $950
    Receiving stolen property, where the value of the property does not exceed $950
    Forgery, where the value of forged check, bond or bill does not exceed $950
    Fraud, where the value of the fraudulent check, draft or order does not exceed $950
    Writing a bad check, where the value of the check does not exceed $950
    Personal use of most illegal drugs

    In SF if your store is the victim of shoplifting the cops won't even try to get there in a timely manner. Why would they? there is no one to arrest and even if the caught the person it's a misdemeanor anyway, they write a ticket or hold them for a day and they are on their way.  Drug use in the street, yup. I see it daily. The criminal justice system is so over run that they do not enforce these "petty" crimes. So what is the result? Rampant homelessness and drug usage.

  19. 5 hours ago, Bri55 said:

    I have a boyfriend, and we promised to always keep the law of chastity. Then I read that we should not participate in passionate kissing. We have been together for a long time, so we have made out like most couples have. There was no touching in inappropriate places, no getting on top of one another, and it was not laying down. We do French kiss though and I have heard some LDS people say that is bad and some think it is ok and normal. I’m still not sure if I am keeping the standards and if I should stop kissing like that. I didn’t think it was a big deal until I read something by Spencer W Kimball, but we have been together for almost a year and have never gone farther than making out, and we don’t plan to. Is this ok?

    The simple fact that you feel the need to ask tells me that something needs to change. Is french kissing normal? (i don't have a problem with it) but would you do it in front of your bishop or mother? Probably not, it should probably be reserved fro a more deep and meaningful relationship. While you claim to not have much feeling about it I can guarantee you that your BF does.

    If you don't plan on going further along than making out I say back it up a little bit slow things down. It is easy to get wrapped up in the physical aspect of a relationship without really getting to know an individual. you've been dating a year? time to make some decisions about your relationship. You don't mention your age so it is hard to advise.

  20. 2 hours ago, anatess2 said:

    "Being homeless in America is a choice" is disingenuous.  Being homeless in America is a by-product of OTHER choices.  Like being divorced.  Nobody goes into a marriage wanting to get divorced.  Things happen that lead you to make that choice as the better option, if not the only option.

    It is not disingenuous. 

    People are choosing to live on the streets. Is this a byproduct of their life choices? Yes of course it is. Let's rule mental illness out or the equation because those are individuals that need help and are unable to make good life decisions. What about everyone else? 

  21. 5 hours ago, anatess2 said:

    Homeless benefits - there are tons.  I'll go with the first 5 that comes to my head:

    1.) Mild weather year-round - you can live off the streets all year long and not die of heat stroke or hypothermia.  You won't find tons of homeless people in the Northeast where you can freeze to death 4 months out of the year.
    2.) Big city with lots of rich people - you can live off of other people's discards or alms or steal stuff.  You won't find tons of homeless people in the farmlands of Kansas.  Or on BLM lands in the West where people can actually live off of tents legally all year long (lots of Van lifers live this lifestyle).
    3.) Lax law enforcement on tent cities.  Miami is not as bad as San Francisco because of this.
    4.) Welfare benefits or compassionate laws specific to the homeless population.  People don't choose to be homeless - they end up homeless for a reason beyond one's control.  A lot of these compassionate benefits try to be compassionate to these people to offer them relief from poverty but they don't address the reason the people ended up homeless in the first place.  Tokyo is a good example of how compassionate laws can work to address poverty.
    5.)  Poverty used as a political weapon on every election - political favors to prop up campaigns.  These things just empower people to believe homelessness is just fine, or "it's the best I can do because somebody made me this way".

    I pretty much agree with all but #4 "Welfare benefits or compassionate laws specific to the homeless population.  People don't choose to be homeless - they end up homeless for a reason beyond one's control.  A lot of these compassionate benefits try to be compassionate to these people to offer them relief from poverty but they don't address the reason the people ended up homeless in the first place.  Tokyo is a good example of how compassionate laws can work to address poverty."

    The people I see and I am in SF right now, want to be homeless, they don't want to conform to the norms of society where they have to follow rules and obey laws. They are addicted to drugs or are otherwise mentally ill and need to be in a care facility and medicated. 

    Barring natural disaster no one "ends up homeless" being homeless in America is a choice.