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    Gays and the church

    As a general principle, I think that our relationship with one thing, in this case, those who are struggling with their covenants, should not be interpreted through our relationship with other things, in this case, that which is most sacred. They are two different relationships.
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    2 Nephi 24: 21

    21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the ainiquities of their fathers, that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. Is this verse an example of the Lord's prophet advocating death for one group of people because of another group? And if it is, would that be contrary to the idea that every person is punished for their own sins and not for someone else's?
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    Gays and the church

    This sounds somewhat like the Lord making decisions about us and for us and imposing things upon us. Such an approach would not fit well with the idea of agency. I believe that the Lord designed the game and the rules and the playing field, but that we had significant impact on the design of the player. The counter view is that the Lord blessed/burdened us with trials with or without our consent. If it was with our consent, then its not too different from saying we signed up for this, and if it was without our consent, then again, that doesnt fit well with the concept of agency.
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    Gays and the church

    I believe in the idea of the "customised curriculum" as taught most noticeably, but not exclusively, by Elder Neal Maxwell. I believe it is quite likely that we were closely involved in deciding what trials we would encounter in this life and that the manner in which each of us has been made is not random. David, and you, and I, may well have made an informed, perhaps even calculated, decision as to what trials we would be given the opportunity to endure in this life, we just don't remember it making that decision. This may be a viewpoint that might not be particularly helpful to David or one that is unlikely to attract his interest or attention, but that's what I believe and how I see things. One thing that has helped me through difficulties is to have faith in my pre-existance self that I made very good decisions, and that I made decisions on matters that would test and stretch me, but not overcome me. The pre-mortal thinking is something like "I want to grow as much as I can in mortality, or I need to grow in certain areas, therefore I will choose such and such a trial in mortality, knowing that it will provide the growth that I seek and need." And the mortal thinking, here and now, when enduring the trial is, " I believe I chose this trial for good and wise reasons, and that I can have trust in that decision, therefore I will seek for whatever it is that I believed I could learn from this trial at the time I chose to be subject to it." Summarised, it boils down to, I signed up for this, so lets make the most of it."
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    God and theories of physics

    Currently there are four credible theories of physics that seek to describe the universe and how it works – gravitation, relativity, quantum physics and string theory. There is disagreement about which one of these provides the best description, or how they could be unified. Would it be reasonable to assume that the best theory, and the one that is most likely to be correct, is the theory which best describes how God does what He does? Some of the things that God can do, which at present do not seem to be well explained by these theories are that He knows all things from the beginning to the end, He lives in a context where time is irrelevant, He can revoke the laws of gravity, eg, Moses and the Red Sea, and He can rearrange atomic or molecular structures with no observable movement of energy, eg, turning water into wine. If it is the case that one of the above theories can explain how these things are done, would that then be a reason to assume that that theory is more likely to be correct than any other theory?
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    God and theories of physics

    So if it is the case that the theory that can account for everything including miracles is more likely to be correct than other theories, then using that approach, and using the example of the mountains fleeing through the faith of Enoch in Moses 7:13 - one of many possible examples - we can rule out gravity as being the theory that best explains how the universe works. And the numerous instances of Christ's miracles, for example, using such a small amount of loaves and fishes to feed so many, would seem to violate the laws of quantum physics, as it involved the disassembling and reassembling of atoms in a manner that violates quantum physics, so we can also rule that out as being a theory which best explains how the universe works. That leaves relativity and string theory as possible contenders. Relativity might help to explain how God knows all things from the beginning, and how time seems to be irrelevant to Him, but if God dwells in a specific location, eg, in Kolob, and visits here from time to time, then any theory dependent on the idea that nothing can travel faster than light ,such as relativity, is not likely to be fully correct. So that leaves just string theory, about which, unfortunately, I know very little. But there do seem to be reasons for suggesting that string theory may be a viable prospect for investigating how and why the universe is the way that it is, and the relationship between God and this universe and for explaining how God does what He does.
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    prisonchaplain is back

    Well no, not quite all is well - you've been away for a year!
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    God and theories of physics

    I think that God wants to be known by His children and is prepared to help make Himself known to those who seek Him. 3 And this is alife beternal, that they might cknow thee the only true dGod, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast esent. See also “When we understand the character of God, and know how to come to Him, he begins to unfold the heavens to us, and to tell us all about it. When we are ready to come to him, he is ready to come to us.” History of the Church, 6:308. “Here then is eternal life – to know the only wise and true God; and you have got to learn how to be gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all gods have done before you, namely, by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one; from grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until you attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power.” Joseph Smith, DHC 6:306
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    God and theories of physics

    Law existed prior to the existence of our God because God, when He was still a man, became God because he obeyed law.
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    God and theories of physics

    I also think that the answer becomes clearer when we remember that God was once a man, and as such, lived in a pre-existing law-governed environment, to which he was subject. There also seems to be something odd with the idea of God continuing to engage in eternal progression if that progression is only in relation to, or subject to, laws that He had created.
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    God and theories of physics

    I think there is no doubt that God is subject to law and whether we call the law to which God is subject the laws of physics or the laws of the universe, or some other name probably doesn't make any difference. I haven't read the article, but I will, but to me, the greatest, and possibly irrefutable evidence that God is subject to eternal is that fact that He allowed, or was required, to subject His beloved Son to the agonies of the atonement. I cannot imagine that any father who loved their child would voluntarily subject them to such a brutal ordeal unless there was an absolutely compelling, unavoidable reason that they do so. I think the requirement for an atonement was something that was imposed on God because of the requirements of eternal law.
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    For Fun: Stocking A Library

    Nice to see you back @Jamie123
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    Most of your readers will be very curious to know what your new calling is.
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    Have you been released from Exec Sec?
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    Repetition of Testimony

    It may be that there are different types of knowledge, like there are different types of ore, and we use whatever is the most appropriate tool for whatever kind or knowledge, or ore, we are looking for. If a person wants secular knowledge then perhaps secular tools would be the most appropriate kind, although there would still be a role for spiritual tools in the form of inspiration. If a person wants spiritual knowledge, such as a testimony and a conviction of the truthfulness of the gospel, then I expect that spiritual tools would be the most approriate tools to use, although there would still be a role for secular tools in the form of study.
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    For Romans8

    @romans8 the nature of your participation in this forum suggests that you have some familiarity with the scriptures, teaching and practices of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I’m wondering what it is that is holding you back from building on this knowledge, and acting on it, by exercising faith and prayer to ask God if the things you have learned are true. I believe that you are a man of faith and it seems that you believe in God. I also think you probably believe that we can pray to God and that He will hear and answer the prayers of his humble, faithful, seeking children who genuinely desire for, and intend to follow, whatever answer He gives them. Will you do this about what you are learning about His restored church in the latter-day? Will you, with faith, humility, and a genuine desire to follow whatever answer you receive, ask God if what you are learning about His church is true? If you have already received an answer, or arrived at a conclusion about this question that is from your own study, or from someone or somewhere else other than God, then I state firmly that such an answer is not as good or as reliable as an answer from God. If asking God about these things through prayer is something you have thought about doing, but have not yet made a decision about, I urge you, as strongly as I can, to exercise your faith in God and ask Him, if the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is His true church on earth and whether you should unite yourself with it by being baptized. I promise you that if you do ask God about this, and if you do make and keep sacred covenants with God, made with and under the authority of those who hold His priesthood authority, then your ability to understand His gospel, His teachings, His plan of salvation for you and for all of His children, His scriptures, and our ultimate destiny, will be enormously increased, as will your opportunities for happiness and joy in this life and the next. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is true. It is God’s restored church on earth in these latter days. The Book of Mormon is true and is the work and word of God. Joseph Smith was God’s prophet on earth and Russell M Nelson is God’s prophet on the earth today. Of these things I testify in the name of Jesus Christ. I urge you again to fast and pray and exercise faith and humility and ask God yourself if these things are true. If I can assist you with this, I would be happy to do so, and I believe that many others would be as well.
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    Repetition of Testimony

    In my opinion, relying only on reason as the only source of knowledge is a dangerous position to take. (I really feel like saying that its also a very narrow minded view to take, but I don't think I could ever say that about @LDSGator ) I think it is one of Satan's major triumphs to have successfully led people to believe that the only reliable source of knowledge comes from empirical study and the scientific method. I know that there is more than one way of knowing and I think that it is a personal choice as to which way we give preference and priority to.
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    Repetition of Testimony

    In a world full of lies and deception, truth is worth repeating, over and over again, at every opportunity.
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    Speculation - What is next?

    It sounds like y'all better move to Australia.
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    Mathew 11:21

    21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have arepented long ago in sackcloth and bashes. Every time I read this verse, I wonder why it is that Jesus chose to do these mighty works in Bethsaida, where they were rejected, instead of arranging for these works to be done in Tyre and Sidon, where they would have been accepted, and resulted in large scale repentance by the inhabitants of Tyre and Sidon. I understand that being outside the jurisdictional boundaries that Christ seemed to have been working under, ( See Matthew 15:24) there was a reduced likelihood that Christ Himself would have gone to these two cities, but given that mighty works were performed by previous prophets in other places, its hard for me to understand why His personally appointed apostles were not instructed to go and perform any might works in cities where Christ knew they would have success if those works were performed. Can anyone suggest some good reasons why Christ did works in locations that He probably knew would not bear good fruit, while choosing not to work, and not to arrange for others to do work, in cities that He knew would bear good fruit?
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    No doubt, in large part, because of their father.
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    Question on empathy

    I suspect that there are other ways to show charity and emphaty that still provide your sister in law with love and support without actually putting yourself into an exhaustive and stressful situation. It might be something as simple as sending her a scriptural text message each day, it might be as big as paying for her to undertake some form of counselling or therapy, or it could be a little more indirect by providing support to those who are supporting your sister in law. It could involve undertaking some study and research to better understand your sister in law's condition/behaviour. Increased understanding of something or someone often improves our ability to be charitable and empathic of/about/towards that something or someone.
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    For Romans8

    'These are only my own thoughts on the matter and should not be taken as church doctrine: It seems to me, that another reasonable interpretation of the above scripture is as follows: We are indeed all children of God, and as God's children, then we are His heirs. Those who suffer with him (Christ) in all things are those who will be glorified together and become joint heirs with Christ. Thus, it seems that there are at least two classes of heirs: those who are children of God, who thereby become His heirs, and I think this includes everybody, and those who suffer with Christ, and thereby become His joint heirs. I think this will be a much smaller group of people. This idea is consistent with the idea expressed by Paul in 1 Corinthians, 3:84 8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. Being an heir of God seems to be unconditional. Being a joint heir seems to be conditional. I cannot see anything in Romans 8: 14 - 17 that supports the conclusion that being an heir of God, rather than a joint heir, means that you are no longer a child of God.
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    What’s the last movie you watched?

    We watched a movie together as a family last night, it was the first time since pre-covid days. It was a spider man movie, something about going home or not going home, I can't remember which. My son tells me it was number 7 in the series and included all the previous bad guys and all the previous good guys from the earlier movies. It had a start and a finish, so presumably it had a middle as well. That's about the best summary I can give, which I suppose says something.
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    The Elder's Quorum move that left a mark.

    I'm writing this as I take a short break from packing and tidying. The best way to reduce clutter is to move house, as I will be doing in the next two days. I've just spent 45 minutes going through some papers that I somehow managed to retain from when I was a stake clerk. In the same pile of papers was an affidavit from another country rom 2006 saying that we were the parents of a child that I'd forgotten about (I don't know the story but I do know the child is now dead. Her biological mother was our niece), about ten copies of my deceased brother's will and tax papers going back to 1993. Some of that stuff will stay (the papers related to the will) the clerical papers will be shredded, some of will be thrown in the trash and some will come with me to our new house. Our kids will end up going through the stuff my wife and I leave behind as they will be staying in this house. My wife and I are being diligent in sorting things out now because we know that our kids will want to do what classylady's kids want to do - just throw the lot without sorting.