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    askandanswer reacted to zil in Who do we deal with during Final Judgment?   
    a) Remember who it was that said he would remember your sins no more.
    b) Remember whose brilliant idea it was to hide
    c) Make up your mind now to never, ever hide from the one being in the universe who can help you, no matter what, no matter who, no matter how painful it might be, decide now to never, ever hide
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    askandanswer reacted to james12 in Who do we deal with during Final Judgment?   
    I don't believe we will end up in some court room with a judge and all our accusers before us. Terminology referring to a judgement bar is given just to provide some context so we can understand. No, the Lord needs no such tools, we will be judged based on who we are. And who we are will be determined by our reactions to what we have heard and seen in this life. Therefore, people may rightly say that we will be judged by Joseph, or by our bishop, or by the Book of Mormon because we have heard their words and either accepted or rejected them in our hearts, but they will not be accusing us in a great court room in the sky.
    We will be our own judges and our own accusers. As Alma said, "If he hath repented of his sins, and desired righteousness until the end of his days, even so he shall be rewarded unto righteousness. These are they that are redeemed of the Lord, yea, these are they that are taken out, that are delivered from that endless night of darkness; and thus they stand or fall; for behold, they are their own judges, whether to do good or do evil." (Alma 41:6-7). And again Moroni says: 
    So focus on who you are becoming. Desire to do good, and work to bring forth righteousness all your days. And when the time comes to stand before the Lord you will find that you already know your place and will go there because it fits you. If you have been wicked you will go with those that are wicked and if righteous with the righteous.
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    askandanswer reacted to zil in Women as Sunday School Presidents   
    That problem has already been solved by those who decline to participate.  Personally, I'd be just fine if church were 3.5 hours:
    0:00 - 1:10 = Sacrament Meeting (standard 1:10)
    10 Minute break
    1:20 - 2:20 = Sunday School (now they get the hour they've been trying to take all along)
    10 minute break
    2:30 - 3:30 = RS / Priesthood (hooray, 10 extra minutes!)
    IMO, people who want less church already have all the options they need.  Those of us who want more church don't.
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    askandanswer reacted to MrShorty in Women as Sunday School Presidents   
    Good question; I don't know the answer. My impression is that there is an element of tradition (cue Tevya) to this, as EdSpringer points out, but I am not aware of any doctrinal reason for this policy.
    I can see an element of "balancing" the responsibilities of men and women in this policy. Women (again seemingly by tradition) have always been in charge of the Primary, and the CHI, as I understand it, mandates that women be installed in the Primary presidency, and does not allow men to serve in that capacity. Men are assigned to preside over the SS and Women are assigned to preside over the Primary, and so you get a balance of influence.
    Perhaps there is also a concern over having mixed presidencies. The intimacy generated in a well functioning presidency could easily create some concerns over marital fidelity if we allowed mixed presidencies. Perhaps organizationally, it is just easier to assign men to SS and women to Primary, rather than making it either men or women, but be sure to never have a mixed presidency.
    So, I see policies rooted in tradition, but I am not aware of any scriptural or doctrinal that underlies these policies. I will be interested if others are aware of doctrine that underpins these policies.
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    askandanswer got a reaction from pam in Olympic swimmer fabricates robbery   
    The bar was in Texas. I think he was visiting godless and giving him quality assurance advice on the various products being sold. Remember, this is the same guy that offers Jack Daniels to new missionaries :)
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    askandanswer got a reaction from unixknight in Olympic swimmer fabricates robbery   
    Hey, thats not fair! Why does unixknight get all the fun? I want my turn! Its been more than a week since I cracked anyone's knees
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    askandanswer reacted to pam in Olympic swimmer fabricates robbery   
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    askandanswer reacted to LeSellers in How come no one else translated the Bible?   
    No one knows exactly.
    It is my opinion that the reason is that the JST has served its primary purpose. (See 5 below.)
    Your question is similar to one antis ask frequently: Why don't you (LDSs) use the JST?
    There are, to my mind, six reasons for this:
    1) We don't own the copyright. That belongs to the CoC. We worked for decades to get permission to use a tiny fraction in foot- and end-notes.
    2) We don't need it because it's available with the full text from Herald House (the CoC publisher) and the most important changes in our own edition of the AV as foot- and end-notes.
    3) Joseph never finished it (which is your question in a different guise). Some claim he did based on a statement that he had. But this statement is open for interpretation, and, more importantly, refuted by Joseph's own acts. He was still working on it a few weeks before his martyrdom. When the RLDS Publication Committee took the "manuscripts" in hand, they found it "bone tiring work" to prepare an engrossed copy for the printer to work from. The translation process changed about the end of Matthew and Genesis. The first had Joseph read from a large, family-style Bible while his scribe wrote word-for-word the text as Joseph read it from the book itself or from revelation. But that took a long time, and God had him change the process so that Joseph read, but the scribe only wrote the changes, while each made marks on the document before him: Joseph in the Bible, the scribe on the transcript. (These symbols were underlinings, dots in pairs or triples or singles, dashes, and so on and matched.) However, as the Publication Committee discovered, it was not clear what these changes meant. As noted above, the Prophet was still working on it right up until his death. This he did by pinning scraps of paper to the manuscript. Again, the meaning wasn't always clear
    4) We don't need it for doctrine. We have the Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, as well as the Book of Mormon to reveal doctrine that has been lost in the Bible.
    5) The purpose for the JST was to train Joseph in "prophethoodness". With rare exception, prophets of earlier times had grown up in a culture that knew what a prophet did. They may not have accepted them, but they understood the job description. As Joseph went through the Bible, less hurriedly than he'd done in the Book of Mormon, he could reflect on how Ezra or Moses or Isaiah approached his ministry.
    6) God hasn't commanded us to use the JST. We are already "weird enough" with the Book of Mormon, etc., that if we also had a different Bible, our work of spreading the Gospel would be even more difficult, and those who might listen now, might not in such a case.
    We have a promise that the records of the Jews and of Israel will be available to us at some point. That time is not yet. Patience is a godly virtue.
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    askandanswer got a reaction from pam in What's on your bucket list?   
    Perhaps you could add delivering a banana custard pie to Australia to the top of your bucket list. You could combine it with your goal of skydiving. 
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    askandanswer reacted to NeuroTypical in What's on your bucket list?   
    Oh - and one important item:
    - Accept the wisdom that comes from Facebook, when it actually is wisdom.  

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    askandanswer got a reaction from zil in What's on your bucket list?   
    Pam, I'm happy to help you with your goals. I'll gladly push you out of the plane :)
    Zil, I can make you a better offer Forget the gator, he doesn't care for you enough. And who wants an old swamp gator anyway?
    I achieved this one when I was 5,,,,,,,,,,,,,, or maybe 4. It took about two minutes. :)
    SilentOne we need to get together. One of the things on my list is to eat a perfect pie crust. 
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    askandanswer got a reaction from LeSellers in What's on your bucket list?   
    Pam, I'm happy to help you with your goals. I'll gladly push you out of the plane :)
    Zil, I can make you a better offer Forget the gator, he doesn't care for you enough. And who wants an old swamp gator anyway?
    I achieved this one when I was 5,,,,,,,,,,,,,, or maybe 4. It took about two minutes. :)
    SilentOne we need to get together. One of the things on my list is to eat a perfect pie crust. 
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    askandanswer got a reaction from pam in What's on your bucket list?   
    Pam, I'm happy to help you with your goals. I'll gladly push you out of the plane :)
    Zil, I can make you a better offer Forget the gator, he doesn't care for you enough. And who wants an old swamp gator anyway?
    I achieved this one when I was 5,,,,,,,,,,,,,, or maybe 4. It took about two minutes. :)
    SilentOne we need to get together. One of the things on my list is to eat a perfect pie crust. 
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    askandanswer reacted to zil in What's on your bucket list?   
    Make a List Cross an item off my list Brag to my online friends about how I completed everything on my list Relax
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    askandanswer reacted to mirkwood in Whack a mole   
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    askandanswer reacted to zil in Sacrament talk help would be appreciated   
    In the Gospel Library app (if you don't have it, let me know and I'll try to find the links online - or you can try), there's a seminary document called "Doctrinal Mastery Core Document" (Seminaries and Institutes > Seminary > last item in the list).  In there, is a chapter called "Acquiring Spiritual Knowledge".  A part of that is about going to "divinely appointed sources" (such as prophets and apostles).  It's pretty short and might give you some ideas.  In the same section, you will find "Doctrinal Mastery New Testament Teacher Material" which has the same chapter, with more details on the same topic.  Again, it may be of use to you.
    Keep in mind, in the scripture being referred to (Matthew 16:15-19), the "rock" is revelation.  It is through prophets and apostles that we receive crucial revelation to help us know what is true.
    Best of luck with your talk!
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    askandanswer reacted to Blueskye2 in Is post mortal death an option?   
    I'm not LDS, but I see a similar question asked in regards to hell. ie, wouldn't it be better for God to destroy then to allow hell.
    It is a similar answer for both, I think, in the concept of free will (though it has differences between religious teachings, which is another topic  ). Anyway! Hell is a choice that is made in this life. Either one chooses to serve God, according to their understanding of who God is, or, they choose to not serve God. So, the problem I see with your scenario is one of wanting your cake and eating it to. Atheists and unrepentant sinners, willfully reject God, but want the graces that come with serving God. Or, another analogy I've seen is, if you choose to kill your parents, you've made yourself an orphan. It isn't an outside force (God) that has made you an orphan, it is a consequence of your choices and actions.
    Hell then (or lower kingdoms and outer darkness) are a choice, made using the gift of free will that God has given us. If you don't want the consequences, then don't take the actions (or lack of action) that lead to the consequences. It is your choice.
    Beyond that, I see this "solution" of destruction, as denying God's sovereignty. Our lives are His, not ours. We are created by Him. He had no obligation to create us. God desires that we LIVE. God has never revealed a desire for our death. He's gone to extreme lengths to bring us to everlasting life. A Son, nailed to a Cross, who died! What more do people want?? He has given us all we need, and provides all the graces for each person, to attain heaven! It is rejecting what God has done, that removes us from His presence. HE does not remove us from His presence, we remove ourselves.
    Further, He created us with a desire for us to align our will to His, aka, righteousness. This is why we have free will, in order to freely follow God. We neither merit our own creation or our own death. We are gifted with the ability to choose to follow God, or not. Both have consequences, and thinking, "I do what I want", and then thinking, "well crap, I did what I want now I want God to do what I want and just destroy me", is just a furthering of the initial problem. That of, following one's own desires and rejecting God.
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    askandanswer reacted to zil in Is post mortal death an option?   
    Now, on a purely theoretical note, our ignorant imaginations might want to say: "Well, maybe immortality is a choice.  Maybe I can simply choose to cease being immortal, and thereby cease existing."
    But it defies logic.  If it were possible to cease being conscious of ourselves, we would not be immortal.  There would have to be a flaw or mechanism which allowed cessation, something to sever our consciousness from the matter of which we are made.  The matter could go back to base elements, but where would our consciousness go?  How, pray tell, could a consciousness unthink itself?
    "OK, I'm going to stop thinking now, and thereby cease."  (There are a few mortals who would accidentally cease their immortal existence were this an option )
    or "OK, I'm going to think my own destruction." (Isn't the act of thinking continuing your existence?  How does an act of existence cause an end of existence?)
    or "OK, I'm going to think the magic word that ends me."  (How did you learn the magic word / method without thinking it and thereby killing yourself in the learning of how to kill yourself?  How did the person who taught you teach you without killing themselves?  OK, we could imagine some combination of things which could be taught separately and only work when done simultaneously, but really?  I think we're stretching our readers' ability to suspend disbelief.)
    It defies logic.  And if that thing which allows cessation of an otherwise immortal being existed, and the being knew it, every other being would know it.   (If they didn't, where did the one who knew it learn it?)   And, by definition, an omniscient being would know how to use it, and could thereby end the existence of another immortal - thus making said other immortal not so immortal - said other immortal (indeed, all of them) would be subject to death (cessation of existence).
    See?  There are too many plot holes.  Until / unless we can plug all those holes and come up with a logical scenario in which the existence of an immortal could be terminated without defying the meaning of "immortal", we cannot write this story - our readers would skewer us!  (And yes, this is very much the same process as coming up with the foundation for a fictional story.)
    As for reality, that scripture kinda clinches it.
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    askandanswer got a reaction from NeedleinA in Is post mortal death an option?   
    NightSG, you are clearly being deficient in your scripture study, or maybe you are just being a little forgetful of what you already know. Remember Alma 40:23? 
    The soul shall be restored to the body, and the body to the soul; yea, and every limb and joint shall be restored to its body; yea, even a hair of the head shall not be lost; but all things shall be restored to their proper and perfect frame.
    Now what Alma didn't write, because he got distracted when his wife asked him to take out the trash, is that pigs, when in their proper and perfect frame, actually find happiness in being dismantled, smoked and friend, because that fulfills the measure of their creation.
    Its true that in their mortal condition, most pigs find this process of dismemberment and being fried to be rather unpleasant, although none of them have actually told me that, but in the resurrection, 
    we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. (1 Corinthians 15:51-52)
    Now my son, I do not say that all pigs will be resurrected, but behold, I give it as my opinion that as part of the resurrection process, those pigs that will be resurrected will be changed such that they will find joy, happiness and fulfillment in being dismembered and fried. 
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    askandanswer got a reaction from NeedleinA in Is post mortal death an option?   
    I can imagine a resurrected being, in the telestial kingdom or in outer darkness, being unhappy at the thought of facing an eternity of damnation, whereby their prospects for progress and their ability to meet with their loved ones in higher kingdoms are eternally limited. In such a hopeless and unhappy situation, such a being might decide that there is no point in continuing their existence. This does not seem like an unrealistic scenario given how frequently it happens here and now. But even if it is unrealistic, or unlikely, does that being then the choice, or the ability, to end their unhappiness by ending their existence? If they can end their existence and commit suicide, would that rob justice because they have escaped their eternal punishment? If they can’t end their existence, and are forced to continue living against their will, is that denying them one of the most important choices provided by free agency – the right to choose whether to live or not? Who wins – justice or agency? The church teaches that after this life, there will be no more death and that the body and spirit will be eternally joined together. If that is true, then it would seem that a resurrected being would not have the ability to choose to end their eternal existence. Perhaps agency loses out to justice. Or perhaps, when formulating the teaching that there will be no death after this life, the formulators or promulgators of that teaching did not give any consideration to the possibility of post mortal suicide.

    I don’t have a particular position on this question and I’m not saying that I believe or disbelieve any of the speculation or assumptions contained in the above question. I also don’t see a discussion of this question as resulting in any immediate, practical outcomes, or any direct outcomes that are likely to have any impact on how we should be living our daily lives. However, I think there is a reasonable possibility that a good discussion of this question could lead to a greater understanding of God, and His laws and operations, and that would certainly be a good thing.

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    askandanswer got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Sister Pearson   
    It almost seems as if something similar happened to Joseph Smith's nephew. One of the tasks of a prophet is to give to the people the word that God gives to him. On the day before the October General Conference, President Joseph F Smith received a vision. He did not write the vision until 31 October and give it to his counsellors or the Quorum of the Twelve until 31 October and it was not until more than 60 years later, in 1976, that the church accepted this vision as scripture. During the conference, President Smith did not tell the saints of this vision. Instead, he said  “I will not, I dare not, attempt to enter upon many things that are resting upon my mind this morning, and I shall postpone until some future time, the Lord being willing, my attempt to tell you some of the things that are in my mind, and that dwell in my heart."   In other words, "I'm too scared to tell you what the Lord, through the Spirit, has been impressing on my mind." Six weeks later, he was dead. Perhaps because he failed to fulfill the most important responsibility of a prophet.
    Of course, an alternative explanation, at least equally plausible, is that, after a period of lengthy illness, the Lord kept him alive long enough to receive and write the vision, and then allowed him to enter into his eternal rest. 
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    askandanswer reacted to estradling75 in Will polygamy be re-instituted after plagues of the last days wipe out a lot of the earth's population?   
    its only confusing if you don't pay attention to what happened with David and Solomon.   They had many wives.   Which were justified because they have approval to do so.    Then they took wives that they were not approved to take and that was an abomination.  Thus both Jacob 2 and D&C 132 are in harmony... they just focus on different sides of the approval process.
    Jacob focus on what his people were doing..  "Taking many wives without permission" and pointed out that was both David and Solomon's mistake.  D&C 132 focus on teaching us how to do it right and that David and Solomon were good in the sight of God in doing so until they transgressed
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    askandanswer reacted to CV75 in Questions re the math of prayer   
    I think since all of this hinges on the Lord's will, I think we can easily substitute "availeth" with "discovereth." The more people fast and pray together, the more His will is revealed--both in terms of the numbers of people receiving and understanding His will, but in terms of the magnitude of light and knowledge He might reveal to them. Increasing faith in the earth is always a good thing! (D&C 1:17-23).
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    askandanswer got a reaction from LeSellers in What is the Celestial law?   
    I'm not sure if the Celestial law in its fullness has been or will be revealed to a terrestrial world. Once you know the law, there is an obligation to abide by it, and that might be a bit difficult to do in this terrestrial world. In an act of mercy, ie, not imposing too great a burden to be borne, perhaps God has withheld the Celestial law at this time. I suspect that we have at least one aspect of Celestial law at this time - the type of marriage described in Section 132 of the Doctrine and Covenants. At first glance, it might almost appear a little surprising, perhaps even unnecessary, if the laws of one kingdom were revealed to another kingdom. However, I have no doubt that the laws that pertain to this current kingdom are designed to prepare us to live the Celestial law. 
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    askandanswer got a reaction from Edspringer in Will polygamy be re-instituted after plagues of the last days wipe out a lot of the earth's population?   
    Traveler, thanks to the faithfulness and obedience of your great grandparents, 150 years later, on the other side of the world, I, and presumably others, gain the benefit of your posts. Its interesting to reflect on how things come about, and how decisions, both good and bad, can have such long lasting effects on so many people.