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    askandanswer reacted to omegaseamaster75 in a scenario   
    Sounds like you guys are making a big deal about nothing. I know how I would have handled it.
    Same scenario except it is me and Mrs Omega.
    Mrs. Omega: Do I look fat in this dress?
    Omegaseamaster75: You've looked fatter in other dresses.
    We die in car crash, all is well because I didn't lie.
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    askandanswer reacted to spamlds in Could Jesus read minds?   
    Missionaries and bishops can probably tell you a little bit about discernment.  When I was on my mission, I was knocking on doors one day in a large French city.  We had a conversation with a guy who lived in a large walk-up apartment building.  He didn't let us in, but he kept talking to us through the door.  He kept challenging us with various questions about faith and why it isn't logical or scientific to believe. There was an edge of bitterness in his voice, but my companion didn't quite pick up on it.  All of a sudden, I knew (discerned) that this guy had been a former member of the Church.  
    I asked him out of the blue, "So how long has it been since you left the Church?"  My companion's head snapped around in astonishment and the guy looked at me incredulous.  Sure enough, he admitted that he had been a member and had fallen away.  It had been many years since he had left the Church after having his faith damaged by some anti-Mormon literature.  I didn't "read" his mind, but I was given the "hunch" and I was bold enough to act on it.  
    Personally, I think that Jesus operated like we do.  Although he was a member of the Godhead, he assumed mortality fully and he overcame the veil gradually.  His personal purity and obedience to his Father's commandments gave him access to unlimited spiritual gifts.  Those gifts came, like the do with us, as he had need of them. 
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    askandanswer reacted to Still_Small_Voice in Do church leaders come to this forum?   
    I found it very surprising that part of President Monson's in the Priesthood session talk was on a subject that I had recorded in my journal a few months prior.
    The subject was on being cautious about the voices we listen to.  I will add more later as I do not have access to my journal presently.
    Edit:  Here are some of the words President Monson said.  They were very similar to some things spoken by James Faust in 1993:
    The [Holy] Spirit's voice is ever present, but it is calm. Said Isaiah, "And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever" (Isaiah 32:17). The adversary tries to smother this voice with a multitude of loud, persistent, persuasive, and appealing voices:
    Murmuring voices that conjure up perceived injustices.
    Whining voices that abhor challenge and work.
    Seductive voices offering sensual enticements.
    Soothing voices that lull us into carnal security.
    Intellectual voices that profess sophistication and superiority.
    Proud voices that rely on the arm of flesh.
    Flattering voices that puff us up with pride.
    Cynical voices that destroy hope.
    Entertaining voices that promote pleasure seeking.
    Commercial voices that tempt us to "spend money for that which is of no worth" and/or "labor for that which cannot satisfy" (see 2 Nephi 9:51).
    ... In your generation you will be barraged by multitudes of voices telling you how to live, how to gratify your passions, how to have it all.
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    askandanswer reacted to cdowis in Article on how God speaks to Mormons   
    Many of these experiences are very sacred but I can share with you this experience.
    Many years ago I was very active in a Christian church.  One day a school friend invited me to his youth group meeting, and the Mormon missionaries  had been invited to tell them what we believe.  When I went, it was the second or third meeting.
    The lesson was on the Plan of Salvation.  They talked about where we came from, why we were here on earth, and what happens to us after death.  As they were speaking, I had the very strong impression that I had heard this all before.  I remember saying to myself, "This is very familiar.  I know that I have heard this before".  I went through my memory, but could not remember where I had learned this.
    In that moment I heard a quiet voice speak very clearly to me.  "It is true".  That's all it said.  
    I can clearly remember that experience now over 50 years later. It so imprinted itself on my soul that I have never doubted that they were telling the truth.  It was before I learned about Joseph Smith and the Book of Mormon.
    Whenever I think of this experience, it makes me think of the hymn, "Amazing Grace".
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    askandanswer reacted to Vort in A reactionary victory! (Not really)   
    Photograph of Martian duo in their (comfortable) mothership:

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    askandanswer reacted to bytor2112 in A reactionary victory! (Not really)   
    I have shook hands with Elder Anderson and he did not appear martian at all to me.....least not like any martians I had previously met?
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    askandanswer reacted to BeccaKirstyn in Never went on a mission?   
    You made a decision that you cannot go back and change. I don't know whether or not this decision was made with the Lord in mind through prayer, but either way, it happened and that time in your life was spent being a caretaker when needed. I believe that dwelling on something you wish you could change will only bring you sorrow and grief. This is Satan's way of making you feel bad about not serving a mission. The Lord knows the intent of your heart. Remember this, and move on with your life with the faith that He will guide you to where you are supposed to go. Ignore leaders that seem to speak harsh words about those who do not serve missions. They are the ones sinning, not you. Keep on living your life and the Lord will bless you if you are living worthily. Do not give up on finding a spouse. There are many women who do not have RM stamped on their list as a permanent characteristic that they are not willing to give up. RM DOES NOT equal a worthy member of the church. Honestly, if you're a current temple recommend holder, I find that much more impressive and worthwhile. That shows me the person you are now, not the person you were however many years ago. Remember, the Lord wants you to find joy in this life. Satan wants you to find sadness, anger, and resentment. 
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    askandanswer reacted to beefche in a scenario   
    I don't think it's the "lying" that may condemn this man, but his attitude of not repenting.  
    I think as we mature in the Gospel of Christ, repenting becomes a way of life, a way of becoming like Christ. It isn't a checklist--I lied about x, so I repent of that. But, repenting is wanting and doing better than yesterday. 
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    askandanswer got a reaction from David13 in a scenario   
    I disagree that this scenario does not reflect reality. As I suggested above, I believe that there may be many people who have lived good lives and then towards the end of their lives, whether that be at a young or old age, do something that is inconsistent with the overall pattern of their lives, and then are taken away before they have a chance to repent. The scriptures I have quoted seem to suggest that unrepented sin might out-weight the cumulative effects of a life of righteousness as sin brings uncleaness and no unclean thing can dwell with God.
    I also disagree that it is a waste of time to engage in thought and discussion about the kinds of actions, or inactions, that might or might not, have an impact on our eternal salvation. Hopefully we all often engage in such contemplation. In fact, giving consideration to this question might well fall under heading of the pursuit of saving knowledge you have referred to.    
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    askandanswer got a reaction from David13 in a scenario   
    This is not a wildly hypothetical thread. It posits a situation of person who has lived a very good life but almost at the end, engages in a form of behaviour - stating a mistruth - that in some circumstances, (note the "some") might be worthy of condemnation, and then moves on into the next life before having time to repent, if indeed, there is a need to repent. I think there might be many who find themselves to be in a comparable situation.
    A reason to speculate on this situation is that coming up with a plausible response could provide greater insights into how the scriptures I referred to could be interpreted and understood. If we want to have a well developed understanding of what the scriptures mean, then it may be helpful to have an understanding of what they mean in all circumstances and the extent, and limitations, of that meaning. 
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    askandanswer reacted to pam in Not buying into this   
    Let's think about it.  He's 88 years old.  This week he has had Elder Scott's funeral, he has had to call 3 new apostles, in addition to all of the speaking he has had to do this week.  I can imagine the spiritual strength it has taken to do all of this let alone the physical strength.  
    I think when people say he is doing okay, he is doing okay taking into consideration his age and his responsibilities.
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    askandanswer reacted to Vort in Not buying into this   
    I think he's doing fine, perhaps even better than I had previously thought. He gave a long and powerful talk last night in the Priesthood session. Clearly, he is not as young as he once was, and I don't expect he will return to that younger state. His wife's death seemed to age him. He did appear to be nearly unable to complete his address this morning, but one incident does not reveal the whole story. President Monson will continue to lead the Church exactly as long as the Lord wills.
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    askandanswer reacted to Just_A_Guy in a scenario   
    If we're going to say that all factually inaccurate statements are worthy of damnation, why not go whole hog and pitch a hypothetical about the little old German man who hid Jews, lied to the S.S. about it, was found out, and summarily executed?
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    askandanswer reacted to Anddenex in a scenario   
    In answer to all the questions, he will be fine and the wife will be fine for all the times she may have not shared her true feelings either.
    I can't see the Lord being concerned regarding this type of scenario; although, it does give me a good chuckle thinking about Geico's "Honest Abe" commercial -- LOL
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    askandanswer reacted to Backroads in Do church leaders come to this forum?   
    I'm just amusing myself thinking of what funny handles church leaders might have for themselves.
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    askandanswer got a reaction from Crypto in A reactionary victory! (Not really)   
    Have you had a really close look at Elder Christofferson and Elder Anderson? The gospel is not just for this Earth,it is universal. :) 
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    askandanswer reacted to The Folk Prophet in Mormon Mythology   
    I recall a talk by Jack Christiansen (sp?) once where he told about meeting the prophet (I believe E.T. Benson) and the opportunity to give him a hug (if I'm recalling the story correctly) and in doing so he noticed how the prophet had missed a spot shaving. And he told us this story with tears in his eyes. 
    I remember thinking then, what on earth is the point of this and why is it important to know that the prophet doesn't shave perfectly?
    I simply cannot understand how we are made better by pointing out how imperfect our prophets and apostles are and were.
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    askandanswer reacted to MrShorty in Mormon Mythology   
    This is one of the more interesting essays I have seen written on prophetic fallibility from a faithful LDS perspective:
    As I have seen it, whichever side of the "LDS leaders are always right/wrong" dichotomy, in some ways, I feel that anyone who takes either extreme is failing to really undertake the challenge of discernment. As I see it, prophets speak:
    1) Eternal gospel truth.
    2) Wise counsel that may be rooted in eternal truths but is not eternal nor universal truth.
    3) Error born from the inevitable error of human judgement.
    and any categories you want to put in between. I believe that God wants us each to really exercise our own discernment and not simply accept another's prounouncements. Thus, to borrow a concept from King Mosiah, we become responsible for our own sins and iniquities and righteousness and goodness.
    One of the challenges is to make sure that anything we choose to be in error does not poison our view so that we cannot see the truths and wisdom that come from the same source. I think this is how this idea becomes the first step towards apostasy. But, I also believe that such discernment, when done correctly, does not need to lead down that road to apostasy.
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    askandanswer got a reaction from mordorbund in Mormon Mythology   
    I have it on good authority that they were Roasting, not toasting, the marshmallows.The outcome is similar but the process is different. :) 
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    askandanswer reacted to The Folk Prophet in Intellectualism welcome?   
    The reason why these things are "issues" of sorts to ask about it because no one really knows the answers. We only know what has been commanded. We obey on faith. Something parts are easier to explain, but even those parts are not concrete answers. We are asked to live on faith, and for the "intellectual", oft times that is no answer at all.
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    askandanswer reacted to Blackmarch in Intellectualism welcome?   
    questions are like a field that has young wheat and tares. You can't pull out the tares till later after things have had time to ripen, which has given the wheat time to grow and gain strength as well as the tares to show their real colors and form.
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    askandanswer reacted to Catlick in Intellectualism welcome?   
    I'm so glad to read all of these responses, they really do help me clarify how much I'm relying on intellectual knowledge vs heart knowledge. And I agree that sometimes questions are really just veiled challenges, and I hate that. Rhetorical arguments are mean spirited and dishonest. Which is exactly why I came here to ask my questions (and continue to do so!)--there never seems to be an appropriate time to ask about the WoW, or temple garments, or why sealings are necessary, etc. I don't want to offend my close friends, as I value their friendship too much. I would never ask at Sacrament Meeting or in Doctrine and Covenants class for fear of sounding like one of those who is couching a criticism in an "innocent" question. So I come here just to lay out my honest thoughts and questions and get direct answers. Thank you all so much! This is an invaluable space for me to learn.
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    askandanswer reacted to Palerider in When your kids make you want to crawl under the pew and hide   
    I have told this before , but I will tell it again. Years ago when I was 32 I was just called as the Bishop of our ward. A few Sunday's later my wife was sitting with our 4 kids. Our son who was 6 at the time found a stick pin. He decided it would be fun to poke his younger sister in the leg with it. She was around 4 yrs old. When he stuck her ....her leg went up in the air and she started crying instantly. As her leg went up in the air the Water was being passed and she connected with that water tray and it went flying. The Deacon was laughing and looked up at me and my wife got up with our daughter under one arm and she was trying to grab our son by anything she could get her hands on. She was going to take him out and kill him. Later after I got home I got into trouble ....for not getting up and helping her.
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    askandanswer reacted to puf_the_majic_dragon in Doctrine on immigration?   
    The idea that a person's right to seek job security, health care, housing, or political participation are dependent solely on the place of that person's birth, rather than on the place where they currently reside or their activity in the local community.
    Illegal immigration:
    The idea that birds need a visa and a passport to fly south for the winter.
    The idea that an entire class of people are criminals based on how they cross an imaginary line.
    Notes on ancient Israel:
    They were invaders violently evicting the current residents. They were far more than illegal immigrants, they were warmongers.
    Borders were completely open except for armies. Trade and immigration were almost entirely unregulated.
    Notes on ancient Lehites:
    They were immigrants from Jerusalem to the Americas.
    They were undocumented. Other indigenous peoples already lived here. We do not know if they were unwelcome.
    Their borders were essentially open except for armies.
    The Lord's actual words regarding immigrants:
    Exodus 12:49
    Exodus 22:21-22
    Leviticus 24:22
    Leviticus 25:35-38
    Jeremiah 22:3
    Ezekiel 22:29
    Matthew 25:35
    Luke 10:36-37
    Galatians 3:28
    Galatians 5:14
    Hebrews 13:2
    3 John 1:5
    (Summary: God sees no difference between you and an immigrant. Period. God is no respecter of persons, NOR of a person's origin. Period.)
    It's important to point out that we teach all investigators to "obey, honor, and sustain the law" and to "follow the law of the land". And the church allows illegal immigrants to get baptized.
    And finally, on the note of legality vs illegality - those are man's laws, not God's. The Saints are not required to silently subject themselves to unjust laws. Most people who talk about illegal immigration don't actually have a clue what America's immigration laws actually say, much less whether they are just or not. I'm also going to point out that most of the people complaining about illegal immigration are the same people who are complaining about government over-regulation. The hypocrisy, and all the ways that it is rationalized, is suffocating.
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    askandanswer got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Intellectualism welcome?   
    Before they became apostles, Elder Holland and Elder Oaks both served as Presidents of BYU. President Eyring served as President of Ricks College in Idaho as did Elder Bednar. Elder Bednar and the recently deceased Elder Scott both held Ph.Ds as did former President Benson. Elder Nelson was a fully fledged medical doctor by the age of 22 and later became part of the team that built the the world's first ever heart/lung machine. Elder Oaks served as law clerk to the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court and as an appellate judge in the Utah Supreme Court.Elder Christofferson also served as a law clerk, to the judge who presided over the Watergate trials. I suspect that if any of these men thought that the church had an unhealthy attitude towards healthy intellectualism, they would know about it and do something about it.