Paularby
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Good comment TFP thank goodness they don't cannonize everything that's said
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Good comment. Thanks for the quote on Kimball .
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And I forgot to add thanks for your comments ... I got attacked in priesthood for bringing this subject up
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We believe we are accountable for our own sins and not Adams transgressions , we believe the descendants of Cain were cursed for Cains sins??the mark apon Cain was to identify him so others wouldn't kill him, the curse was that the earth wouldn't yield her strength. Why was it ok for Joseph to ordain blacks to the priesthood and not Brigham ? the essays conclude we disavow those theories taught by Brigham. He taught Adam God and it was taught by others as well . President Kimball said it was false and believing would be damning . I don't believe those men would intensionally lead others away from God . But like all men they have believed and spoken false ideas.
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Well, let's go back to what President Woodruff said:
So, the removal doesn't come from being innocently wrong about something per se. The removal comes when the prophet is so wrong--and, apparently, deliberately so--that the incorrect teaching either separates people from the channels of revelation, or else stops them from doing the specific things that God actually wants them to do.
Brigham Young's having taught "Curse of Cain" and other similar ideas, while certainly discomforting, doesn't require me to reject him under the Woodruff analysis; because it has yet to be shown that this idea was the sole and proximate cause to any inhibiting of revelation or otherwise wrongful action; let alone that Young was acting out of any form of mens rea. Now, the idea of the priesthood ban being contrary to God's instructions would, I think, would be more problematic. But then, the Church has never conceded that the ban was inappropriate under the circumstances or that Young exceeded his authority in enacting it.
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According to Lds.org essays we now ( no longer believe the theories of the curse of Cain taught by President Young) we don't believe that people are born with a black skin because of pre earth events . Brigham taught this and it followed more than a hundred years. I guess my question is why wasn't he removed if we teach that doctrine was wrong. I understand they were racist like the rest of the country at that time. But the Lord wasn't . Is the statement true then that a prophet can't lead the people into error.
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The prophet cannot lead the Church astray under the guise of (false) revelation. He would be removed from office if this were to happen.This is different than saying the prophet is infallible. Of course the prophet is human and makes many errors like the rest ot us. OK maybe not so many. But in general we are protected as a church, because the only doctrine we have ever had so far in the scriptures has been approved by the membership.
Emma Smith's testimony
in Church History
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No one can judge Emma or any other person no matter how much we think we know about them. The Lord spoke to Emma directly in the d&c 132 revelation 4 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law
D&C 132:54
Although she was against Brigham and polygamy later ,she did accept it for awhile and entered into the covenant so this apples to her as well ; 26 Verily, verily, I say unto you, if a man marry a wife according to my word, and they are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, according to mine appointment, and he or she shall commit any sin or transgression of the new and everlasting covenant whatever, and all manner of blasphemies, and if they commit no murder wherein they shed innocent blood, yet they shall come forth in the first resurrection, and enter into their exaltation; but they shall be destroyed in the flesh, and shall be delivered unto the buffetings of Satan unto the day of redemption, saith the Lord God.
Come forth in the first resurrection and enter into her exaltation. No one knows Emma like the Lord knows Emma , following the others to Utah is the least thing .