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  1. Thank you all! I am glad to have found an active forum with many sincere thinkers are coming to share their ideas. Some follow-up comments and more questions: v.10: My question is more about the context. The sentence reads: "Wherefore, the ends of the law which the Holy One hath given, unto the inflicting of the punishment which is affixed, which punishment that is affixed is in opposition to that of the happiness which is affixed, to answer the ends of the atonement--For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. So what does answering the ends of the atonement mean here? What are "the ends"? The ideas leading up to seem to indicate happiness and punishment. If that is the case, then I have always thought of this in reverse: the atonement answers the ends of the punishment and happiness. But the order is flipped here, and it seems to say that happiness and punishment answer the ends of the atonement. Any thoughts? My understanding is that they are indeed real fruits, but the terms also are used metaphorically. I found an Ensign article by Elder McConkie that validates some of the things discussed here: "in the primeval and Edenic day all forms of life lived in a higher state than now prevails...Death and procreation had yet to enter the world." (Ensign, 06/1982)
  2. 1. v. 10: What is the meaning of "to answer the ends of the atonement"? 2. v. 15: "the one being sweet and the other bitter." does this refer to the actual taste of the fruits? Or is this metaphorical? I have always thought that the actual tatste of the forbidden fruit is sweet. 3. v. 17: "according to the things which I have read" what did Lehi read in brass plates that container an account of the war in heaven? Can you think of an old testament chapter that contains such information? 4. v. 23: "And they would have had no children" why couldn't they have children? They were innocent, but they were not without knowledge.
  3. Thanks everyone for many helpful feedback. Some of the things we are trying to achieve are 1. helping people who are shy/less vocal share their questions/concerns. 2. expand the scope of gospel learning and discussions beyond just a couple hours at church. Facebook is great because many people are already on it but it doesn't allow anonymous posting. I was looking for some sort of message boards which can be perhaps accessed by private invitation/link. For lds.net, is there a way to make a private group space here? 1. Privacy so only ward members can access 2. Must allow an option for users to be anonymous 3. Need the option to appoint moderators 4. Better to be simple and easy-to-use than sophisticated 5. Mobile platform
  4. Hello! I am thinking about creating an online venue of discussion for ward members. Often the classes go by without getting to everyone who wanted to speak, and there are people who feel hesitant about sharing their questions/concerns in public. So I would like to ask for your recommendations/suggestions about sites and tools that may allow a sort of message board/discussion forum that I can create for my ward. A couple things that I am looking for are as follows: 1. Must guarantee privacy so only ward members can access 2. Must allow an option for users to be anonymous 3. Need the option to appoint moderators 4. Better to be simple and easy-to-use than sophiscated 5. Mobile platform Any help is much appreciated!! Thank you.