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  1. Taking Odds on the Election

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    On 7/15/2021 at 9:44 PM, NeedleinA said:

    Today Arizona had a preliminary hearing where they shared that the audit on Maricopa County alone had issues with 74k votes.

    Today, both official Arizona audit Twitter accounts have been suspended. 
    Suppose if you can ban a ex President, an election audit is nothing more than a minor speed bump to sweep under the rug. 
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  2. Requiring a COVID-19 Vaccine (shot/s)

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    7 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

    Well, I tried. 

    I'm not worried about things in the grand scheme of the eternities.
    Though I'm a good arguing buddy from time to time, and I get on my hobby horse like we all do occasionally, I'm not worried about the battles that are won by the 'other' side.
    I ultimately only care about the eternal perspective and find comfort in knowing the Savior wins the actual war.

    As much as vaccines, liberals, loss of freedoms, etc. pull me into the storm, I'll continue to do my best to focus on what matters.

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  3. Requiring a COVID-19 Vaccine (shot/s)

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    59 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

    Which will lead to less of them voting.

    If 'voting' made a difference any longer in our country, you might have a point.

    IMO we are well past the 'Righteousness & Prosperity' stage of the pride cycle.
    Rather we are now simply transitioning from the 'Pride & Wickedness' stage into the 'Destruction & Suffering' stage. If my unvaccinated family and I are passed on and serving in the Spirit World,  while the mortal world is run by liberals and their champagne, I'll take it as a win.
     

    Side note: I just spent the weekend at Adam-ondi-Ahman, wonderful place. I'm 100% fine if the 2nd coming happens later today, or I'm even willing to wait until tomorrow. Just sayin.

  4. Requiring a COVID-19 Vaccine (shot/s)

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    7 minutes ago, dprh said:

    On the other question, definitely follow the Holy Ghost. 

    I agree. 
    With that in mind, here I remain unvaccinated.

    I have spoken with medical professionals inside our stake, with a bag of mixed answers, speculation and best guesses... none of which are virologist.
    The Church suggests speaking not just to a medical professional but a 'competent' one. Does that mean, like actual virologist competent or just primary care physician competent? What about Lab Technician competent? What about Walgreens/CVC pharmacy competent?  Or milk, eggs and the jab at the grocery store competent?

    I wonder how many people went and got the vaccine without consulting an actual competent medical professional first?

  5. Requiring a COVID-19 Vaccine (shot/s)

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    43 minutes ago, dprh said:

    I am genuinely curious.  Of the forum members here who have decided not to get the COVID vaccine, did you consult a medical professional?

    Equally curious. If a doctor said, "You don't need the vaccine"... would you even listen to their advice or would you try to perhaps, lets say, discredit them instead?

    Also, what happened to the rest of the handbook guidance... "and also seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost."?
    So... what should an individual do if a medical professional says 'get the vaccine', but the Holy Ghost says 'not now'?

  6. Requiring a COVID-19 Vaccine (shot/s)

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    Senator and physician Rand Paul recently said:

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    The largest area of misinformation is actually coming from the government...

    ...natural immunity is robust. A study from Washington University School of Medicine just recently says, "mild infection with SARS Covid 2 induces a robust antigen specific long lived humoral immune memory in humans". Cleveland Clinic studied 50,000 employees showing that those who had the disease previously had the same if not better immunity than those who had been vaccinated. 

  7. Requiring a COVID-19 Vaccine (shot/s)

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    Posted · Edited by NeedleinA

    What was said:

    On 7/22/2021 at 9:58 AM, mirkwood said:

    38.7.13

    Vaccinations

    Vaccinations administered by competent medical professionals protect health and preserve life. Members of the Church are encouraged to safeguard themselves, their children, and their communities through vaccination.

    Ultimately, individuals are responsible to make their own decisions about vaccination. If members have concerns, they should counsel with competent medical professionals and also seek the guidance of the Holy Ghost.

    What some believe they actually heard:

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    Ultimately, individuals are responsible to take the Covid vaccine. 

     

  10. BYU Hawaii - vaccine required

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    17 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

    to consider myself in perpetual hock to the guns-beer-and-bikini-babes faction that now seems to be dominating the 2021 iteration of the Republican Party.

    We, the Latter-day Saints, have resources that the world knows not; power that the world knows not.  I would like to focus on qualifying myself to use that power; rather than giving my allegiance to a political has-been who has a track record of treating his supporters (from Manafort and Cohen and Pence and McConnell on down) little better than his whores.

    I only read Benson as: " help preserve freedom and extend the gospel ".

    On a personal note...Republican, beer, bikinis, Trump aren't part of what I envision when it comes to helping preserve freedom and extending the gospel.
    I see a need to fight for freedom because through it the gospel can be spread and lived to its fullest. I personally have no allegiance to a political 'person' or a 'party'. In both cases I have to take the lesser of two evils.

    To their credit, the media has been doing a bang up job repeatedly drilling into our brains that conservatives = bass-ackwards Jerry Springer inbreed hill billies not even worthy of NOS Grey Poupon.
    As much as I tried to fit their mold, all my cousins and sisters were already married once I got off my mission.

  11. BYU Hawaii - vaccine required

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    1 hour ago, The Folk Prophet said:

    Charlie Kirk isn't a Latter-day Saint. Ben Shapiro isn't a Latter-day Saint. Tim Pool isn't a Latter-day Saint. Jordan Petersen isn't a Latter-day Saint. Trump isn't a Latter-day Saint. Etc.Of that there is little doubt in my view.

    Watching non-members do the heavy lifting in the fight for freedom makes me think of the following excuses that members might give for not doing more of the heavy lifting themselves.
    From Pres. Benson:

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    13.63. The devil knows that if the elders of Israel should ever wake up, they could step forth and help preserve freedom and extend the gospel. Therefore the devil has concentrated, and to a large extent successfully, in neutralizing much of the priesthood. He has reduced them to sleeping giants. His arguments are clever.

    Here are a few samples:

    First: “We really haven’t received much instruction about freedom,” the devil says. . . .

    Second: “You’re too involved in other church work,” says the devil. . . .

    Third: “You want to be loved by everyone,” says the devil, “and this freedom battle is so controversial you might be accused of engaging in politics.” . . .

    Fourth: “Wait until it becomes popular to do,” says the devil, “or, at least until everybody in the Church agrees on what should be done.” . . .

    Fifth: “It might hurt your business or your family,” says the devil, “and besides why not let the gentiles save the country? They aren’t as busy as you are.” . . .

    Sixth: “Don’t worry,” says the devil, “the Lord will protect you, and besides the world is so corrupt and heading toward destruction at such a pace that you can’t stop it, so why try.” . . .


     

  14. Taking Odds on the Election

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    1 hour ago, Just_A_Guy said:

    That said:  I think it’s fair to point out that for a lot of the supporters, this is less about Trump (or even purported election fraud) than about the dawning realization that the country and values they learned about in high school civics doesn’t exist anymore (if ever it did).  The last few years have illustrated the obvious hollowing out of a number of previously-trusted American institutions—not just the press and academia but the courts, DOJ, FBI, corporate America, and even increasingly the military.  Take a look at the Twitter thread that’s been copied and pasted here.  

    This^^^
    I read 80% of the link you provided. Enough to go... yep, that is me. Disgusted and saddened by the direction of our country and the crumbling of it's once(?) respected institutions. Top it off with a heaping load of Big Tech and Govt. censorship = double sucks.

    I laugh when I hear folks narrowly minded talk about Trump as if he is the leader of the America First movement, he is not. 

    I'm also fine when I hear that people dislike Trump, because again, this is not about Trump. Trump for me was  simply the best option we had in 2020 to avoid the steaming mess of a country we have right now. Was he perfect, no. Simply the better of the two options. 

  15. Taking Odds on the Election

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    1 hour ago, estradling75 said:

    But what we do have is the mid-terms...

    If there is no election fraud, then I agree, the mid-terms are a viable solution.
    If there is election fraud, then what would make the mid-terms any more hopeful then the past elections we just went through?
    If individuals have cracked the code and are gaming the system, then no election moving forward means diddly squat as it can just be gamed after the fact.

    Every current anti-audit person should be EXCITED to see the audits completed, then they can forever rub it in everyone else's face that there was no fraud. They will be vindicated and should be able to shoot down future claims of election fraud with ease. Why wouldn't they enjoy a big, "I told you so audit conspiracy nuts"?

  16. Taking Odds on the Election

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    1 hour ago, Godless said:

    Maricopa County addressed this on social media.

    I guess going door-to-door to ask people if they're vaccinated is tyranny, but doing it to ask if people voted is saving democracy? 🤔

    Do you mean Maricopa County (the one who ignores subpoenas) was none to happy to have anything said about their voting procedures? Shocker.
    The same county that has restricted and tried to impede the audit at every turn... you mean that group? Shocker again.
    I guess one Twitter post from MC and we should all just pack it up and go home now.

    Since the auditors are working with limited access/restricted information, they said they may need to resort to door to door since the county is withholding necessary data.
    IF the county would simply provide the necessary information:
    1. No door to door would be necessary
    2. They could voluntarily, in goodwill, demonstrate to their citizens that they were 100% forthcoming and followed all election laws.

    Spoiler: they won't do it.

    Republican, Democrat, Independent... I don't care at all. Prove that the system works and put this to rest for the voters and following elections.

  17. Taking Odds on the Election

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    Appears clear that Arizona is determined to get to the bottom of their election system and confirm to it's voters that either it functions securely/properly or there was fraud in the Presidential election. Today Arizona had a preliminary hearing where they shared that the audit on Maricopa County alone had issues with 74k votes. That is just Maricopa. 
    Both Pennsylvania and Georgia appear to be next to conduct election audits. 

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    What would be worse, stopping an individual from taking office OR trying to remove them from office it was acquired?
    Perhaps we might find out. 

    I'm still with Carb though:

    On 10/23/2020 at 6:59 AM, Carborendum said:

    I'm going to start praying for a hurrying of the Second Coming.

     

  20. Requiring a COVID-19 Vaccine (shot/s)

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    27 minutes ago, Vort said:

    EDIT: I would say that it does appear to be inconsistent to accept data that you think bolsters your prejudices while simultaneously rejecting a data analysis from the same source that you think disagrees with your prejudices. But the fact that something appears to be inconsistent does not necessarily imply that it really is inconsistent.

    Agreed.
    From yesterday.

    On 7/12/2021 at 10:15 AM, NeedleinA said:

    They want us to fully embrace their numbers when it comes to Covid deaths, but on the other hand completely ignore/discredit the numbers on VAERS Vaccine related deaths.
    Both stats derive their data from imperfect sources, so why are we told only to believe one and ignore the other?

    Why should we accept the Covid death rates/side affects as gospel, but then turn a blind eye to the Vaccine death rates/side affects?
    All I see is a one-sided landslide of big tech, media & govt. censorship to keep the Covid gravy train rolling forward and a swift sword towards any dissenting view point.

    If they really wanted to help otherwise normal people not turn into supposed conspiracy theorist, they would stop censoring everything like they have been doing and let free speech work it's magic in the square of public opinion. 
    Until then, the divide just continues to grow.

  25. Requiring a COVID-19 Vaccine (shot/s)

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    14 minutes ago, LDSGator said:

    And, their lies cost lives. Because people believe their garbage they won’t wear a mask

    Fauci, our nation's top paid federal employee and go to scientist in 2020 said:

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    ...there is no reason to be walking around with a mask, when you are in the middle of an outbreak wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet but it is not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is...

    So... was Fauci spreading 'garbage'?
    If so, then we agree upon something.