NeedleinA

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    NeedleinA reacted to Latter-Day Marriage in Homosexual journey through the Mormon church   
    'wasting seed' isn't why homosexual sex isn't wrong, it is wrong because our bodies are temples, our sexuality and the power to create life is the most sacred and god-like attribute about us, and homosexual behaviour is a desecration of that.  Homosexual behaviour is not just gay sex either.  A gay man wishing to be in full fellowship in the church would need to keep all his relationship with other men as platonic friendships.  A non-sexual romance is not OK, and also pretty unlikely to remain non-sexual in the long run.
    Cross dressing is about presenting yourself as a member of the opposite gender, or pretending to be such.  My wife often will wear men's pants or shirts simply because they sometimes fit her better but nobody is going to mistake her for a guy and that isn't cross dressing.  There is a verse in Leviticus that forbids cross dressing, and it is isn't considered to be up to the standards the church upholds.  The only policy I know of about it is that if a Ward has a costume party, you can't come dressed as a member of the opposite sex.  Context and intention are important.  How members would react to a guy wearing makeup will likely vary.  I would say ask yourself what your reasons are for it, and if you feel after prayer that it is in keeping with following Christ and being an example of a believer.
    As for your membership number, ask your ward clerk for it.  I'm not sure how soon after a baptism a number is given but it isn't like you get a membership card.  It's mainly for the church's use, not something you'll need very often.
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    NeedleinA reacted to NeuroTypical in Homosexual journey through the Mormon church   
    Hi TKC,
    You are in for a very interesting ride.  You're one of the vanguard here - a groundbreaker.  There just aren't that many folks in your situation, trying to make your way in the kingdom of God.  I don't think we can advise you, because basically none of us know anyone like you, and have no experiences to draw from.  Or, to put it another way, although we all have folks with same sex attraction/crossdressing/etc leanings or tendencies, it's rare to have any dialog about it on either side.  
    One thing I can guarantee you - you will encounter hurtful idiots in our church (if you haven't already).  Please forgive them - they're scared.  Ignorance has always made people scared.  
    Please come here often and tell us how things are going.  For many of us, it will be a rare slice of life glimpse into things we don't know much about.  Here are some links:
    https://inpursuitofmuchness.wordpress.com/2016/05/04/mormon-gay-and-okay/
    http://mormonsandgays.org/
    http://www.joshweed.com/p/faq-new.html
    http://mitchmayne.com/
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    NeedleinA got a reaction from Windseeker in Depression, pornography, and marriage...   
    Great comment Windseeker. 
    There are clearly ill thought out, ill timed and ill worded ways of sharing a secret with a spouse. Consult the Lord in advance and rely on the Spirit to know what to say, how to say it and when to say it. 
    This is a great point Connie. 
    Because the "step of restitution" was never executed, did the person who says they repented actually repent? The answer is no. Because this missing step, is well still missing, the person (who sinned) will never find "true" closure. The feeling that he/she should confess to their spouse will rear it's head over and over again throughout the marriage. 
    Elder Wirthlin: "You are free to choose and are permitted to act, but you are not free to choose the consequences". 
    Hymn 237 - " Do what is right; let the consequence follow. "
    Gospel Principles manual - "If we have sinned against another person, we should confess to the person we have injured."  Was another person sinned against? If so then this portion/step of repentance applies.  The manual doesn't say "If we have sinned against another person, BUT we only personally feel it was a lesser sin, then no need to confess to them".
    Spot on as always
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    NeedleinA reacted to Latter-Day Marriage in Depression, pornography, and marriage...   
    The verses that talk about how deeds done in secret will be shouted from the housetops is not about people going around over sharing, it is in reference to the judgement.  At that day there will be no secrets, you will know everything others did, and they will know everything your did.  

    All this 'why hurt her feelings' stuff is nothing more than cowardice trying to look noble.  If they were so concerned about their spouse's feelings then they wouldn't have done it in the first place.  Keeping an offense against her secret only kicks the can down the road, and when she finds out on judgement day it will hurt far more than telling her now.  Leave it to judgement day and it will be too late to heal her hurt before she has to decide if she actually wants to spend eternity with him or not.  Keeping it secret isn't about protecting her, it is about him trying to avoid the consequences of your actions, and avoid being held accountable as long as possible. To keep it secret he must resort to lies and excuses to harden his heart against the prompting of the Spirit that push him to confess and repent.

    If he tells her now, then she can see he is repentant, see his regret, and have the comfort of being confessed to rather than the humiliation and disrespect of being deceived all her life on top of everything else. 
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    NeedleinA reacted to estradling75 in Depression, pornography, and marriage...   
    Anyone that thinks they will get "warm fuzzies" as they struggle to repent has clearly never repented. 
    Such confession is painful.  Part of that pain is knowing their wife is going to have to grapple with it as she works toward forgiveness (which she may or may not be able to do) 
    But that does not change the fact that it harmed her and part of repentance is confessing...  The only thing really debatable is the timing... and that is a matter of prayerful consideration
     
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    NeedleinA reacted to Latter-Day Marriage in Depression, pornography, and marriage...   
    When somebody wrongs somebody else,  confession to them is a required part of the repentance process.  You can't say on one hand that he didn't wrong her, and also say that confessing to her puts the relationship at risk.  If she is not wronged where is the risk?  In truth it was his ACTIONS that put the relationship at risk, not confessing them.  Confessing them is the first step in trying to defuse the risk created by the offense.
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    NeedleinA reacted to Windseeker in Depression, pornography, and marriage...   
    I was reading with my daughter in Alcoholics Anonymous and it discusses the importance of confession and this jumped out at me
    "...we can not disclose anything to our wives or our parents which will hurt them and make them unhappy. We have no right to save our own skin at another expense. Such parts of our story we tell to someone who will understand, yet be unaffected. The rule is we must be hard on ourself, but always considerate of others. 
    I think this is what I'm getting at. My concern is that there are those who struggle with this who get the idea it's perfectly acceptable to torment their wives with a constant barrage of confession with no thought or consideration of the burden it places. I've seen too often right here on this very forum those who blame their wives for their sinful habit and frankly it disgusts me. In the same vein, there are those who hold their spouse blameless yet constantly nag and vex their spouse with endless confessions of every wayward thought in an attempt to unburden their guilt and force some kind of coddled compassion and these are no better. 
    I do think if directed by the Spirit and by a Bishop that we need to discuss our failings with our spouse make sure our intent is pure and if it's pure be prepared to accept the consequence that the burden we unintentionally place may be too much to bear. 
     
     
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    NeedleinA reacted to Jamie123 in Is "vaping" harmful? What every LDS parent should know   
    A couple of years ago I was in one of our school PC labs and there was a bunch of students gathered round one of the computers. There were wisps of what seemed to be smoke rising over them so I naturally thought the monitor was on fire. I rushed over to them.
    Me: There is smoke coming off that monitor! Turn it off! Now!
    (Students look at me as though I am mad.)
    Me: I SAW smoke! Turn this monitor off!
    Student: (mumbling) It's an e-cigarette. (Opens his bag a couple of inches, giving me a very brief glimpse of something, though I have no idea what.)
    Me: What? (I had then never heard of an "e-cigarette")
    (Students now go back to discussing to the program they're working on and start to ignore me.)
    Me: What the heck is going on here!!??
    Student: (annoyed at the continued interruption) It's just an e-cigarette! (Gives me a slightly better look at it this time.)
    Me: Someone please tell me what is going on!!
    (Students are now ignoring me completely. I am extremely vexed. I go to fetch the lab superintendent.)
    Superintendent: Dr. (my surname) tells me there is smoke coming out of this monitor!
    Student: It's just an e-cigarette!
    I can't remember exactly how it ended, though I think there was eventually a ban on e-cigarettes in the lab. That sounds like a no-brainer nowadays, but e-cigarettes were so new back then that no one had ever thought of having a special rule forbidding them.
    But I am still shocked at how casually it was all taken. I daresay e-cigarettes are no more dangerous in the PC lab than they are anywhere else, but for anyone who (like me) started their career as an engineer, the sight of anything resembling smoke rising over any piece of electrical equipment is like a red rag to a bull! (Except possibly when it is disconnected and there is soldering going on - which there never was in that lab.)
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    NeedleinA got a reaction from Sunday21 in Bountiful Temple Moroni damaged   
    As long as they report the entire story...
    The electricity from the lightning bolt actually traveled through the statue, into the temple, and was eventually rerouted to a small 3rd world country giving them enough power to run things for a month. Said country thanked the Church for their continual humanitarian efforts!
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    NeedleinA got a reaction from Sunday21 in Is "vaping" harmful? What every LDS parent should know   
    At least the vaping industry is not targeting little kids with happy fun lovable characters like cigarettes did with Joe Camel  and others.
    Oh wait...

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    NeedleinA reacted to Just_A_Guy in LDS Church approves pants for Sister Missionaries where Zika virus a threat   
    * In Zika-affected areas.
    As a co-worker of mine cracked:  "A mosquito and a virus, acting together, just did what Kate Kelly and the entire feminist wing of the church couldn't."
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    NeedleinA reacted to NeuroTypical in Is "vaping" harmful? What every LDS parent should know   
    Vaping can lead to teen smoking, new study finds - Student Science
    Electronic Cigarette Dangers - new research - SkepticalRaptor
    Useful things to say when people try to defend Vaping:
    * Yeah, I hear your dumb claim 'vaping is safer than cigarettes'.  When talking about beer, nobody ever says "Beer is safer than Vodka!".  Can you tell me why, or should I explain it?
    * Yeah, a liquid that has zero regulation or oversight, that we inhale, is made of ingredients that are safe to eat so therefore they're safe to inhale, because it's safer than inhaling smoke! Not an impressive argument.
    * Vuse is owned by RJ Reynolds.  You know that, right?
    * Show me a study claiming Vaping works as a way of quitting smoking, and I'll give you a lesson in poor study design, flawed methods, and nonexistent controls.
    * Show me a personal anecdote about how Vaping worked for you, and I'll give you a lesson on anecdotes vs. science, and a lecture on the placebo effect.
     
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    NeedleinA reacted to LeSellers in Is "vaping" harmful? What every LDS parent should know   
    It was much the same when wine coolers hit the stores.
    LDS children thought they were just fruit juice.
    Whereby they lie in wait to deceive.
    Lehi
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    NeedleinA got a reaction from Backroads in Bountiful Temple Moroni damaged   
    As long as they report the entire story...
    The electricity from the lightning bolt actually traveled through the statue, into the temple, and was eventually rerouted to a small 3rd world country giving them enough power to run things for a month. Said country thanked the Church for their continual humanitarian efforts!
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    NeedleinA got a reaction from theSQUIDSTER in Good things   
    So basically a polite body builder pumped up on Kim Chee who opens the doors of BMWs and cuddles up in his Star Wars jammies at night? 
    I like the "good thing" of super quick Photoshop.

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    NeedleinA got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Bountiful Temple Moroni damaged   
    As long as they report the entire story...
    The electricity from the lightning bolt actually traveled through the statue, into the temple, and was eventually rerouted to a small 3rd world country giving them enough power to run things for a month. Said country thanked the Church for their continual humanitarian efforts!
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    NeedleinA reacted to Rhoades in Depression, pornography, and marriage...   
    @Latter-Day Marriage This discussion motivated me to further study the role of confession in the repentance process.  I have a renewed appreciation for the value and benefit that comes with confession to those we have offended.  It not only helps them, but it also helps us acquire sufficient humility.  Thanks!
     I obviously did a poor job explaining my thoughts.  I do NOT think one should avoid confession to those offended for fear of consequences to themselves.  Nor do I think the unrepentant will be without consequences at judgement day.  In addition to poor explanations, some of my thoughts were off the cuff and maybe not appropriate for the topic.  We must overcome the fear of the consequences of confession with hope and faith in the consequences of full repentance.
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    NeedleinA got a reaction from moonman239 in Excomm   
    While there is the potential, let her not forget there is also hope.
     
     

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    NeedleinA got a reaction from Maureen in Good things   
    I bet once @Sunday21 logs back on the forum and sees what her "Good Things" thread has turned into, she might want to kick one or two of us. So...
    I came across a good thing for her! Yep, just in case you needed them, here they are:
     

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    NeedleinA got a reaction from anatess2 in Good things   
    Hey, just trying to give Zil what she ordered.  But for you Carb, one bottle of lightning infused Kim Chee!
     

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    NeedleinA got a reaction from anatess2 in Good things   
    Voila! Thunderstorm added, minus lightning. 

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    NeedleinA got a reaction from anatess2 in Good things   
    So basically a polite body builder pumped up on Kim Chee who opens the doors of BMWs and cuddles up in his Star Wars jammies at night? 
    I like the "good thing" of super quick Photoshop.

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    NeedleinA reacted to pam in LDS perspective on Embryo donation   
    Do you have a valid reference for this?  I've never heard of this.
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    NeedleinA reacted to Latter-Day Marriage in Depression, pornography, and marriage...   
    It's easy to think of things in terms of 'I give you X amount of repentance and you give me Y amount of forgiveness in return', but that isn't really how it should go.  Forgiveness should come with or without repentance, repentance is about reaching a point of reconciliation between the offender and ofendee, where the harm to the relationship caused by the offense is healed.  That harm can't be healed if it is kept hidden.
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    NeedleinA reacted to zil in Depression, pornography, and marriage...   
    Maybe repentance isn't just about the sinner gaining forgiveness.  Maybe it isn't just about the sinner restoring what they took / harmed.  Maybe it's also about giving everyone involved a chance to progress, to learn greater humility, to forgive, to trust, to restore, to recover, to love, to show mercy, to rely more on Christ.  In every sin confessed to a person against whom we have sinned but who doesn't know the full details (who did it, the extent, whatever), there's a chance it will hurt them when they learn who it was (and the full extent), but there's also a chance it will ultimately bring them closer to Christ.