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Why do you ask? Yes, as Doc&Cov 135 says, he has done more for the salvation of the world, Christ excepted, than any man who's lived on the planet: we see him as one of the most important persons to ever live on this earth. How that gets morphed by enemies of the Kingdom of God into our worshiping him is only a mystery if one doesn't understand how Satan works. He is the master of distortion, the king of twisting, and the deceiver par excellence. It's not because of the Book of Mormon that we need his approval to enter the Kingdom, it's because he holds the keys under Peter (and he under Christ), and he (along with Twelve Apostles) will judge us prior to Peters' judging us (if that's the way you read the scriptures on the subject), and before we receive a final judgement from Jesus Himself. It's about keys, not books, it's about authority, not revelation. We're grateful for the revelation, we thank God for the books, but of all the things restored through Joseph Smith, it's the keys we are (or should be) more grateful for. Lehi

It's probably common. But when I was a deacon, receiving the Fast Offerings, we were told in one of the manuals used back then, that we were never to say, "We're here to collect the Fast offering." Instead, it was to "We're here to receive the Fast Offering." The difference, as explained above, is one of mindset. Lehi

Not actively. It jess comes natcherly. I was actually trying to be lighthearted. Obviously we don't share the same sense of humor. Lehi

This is, I believe, more than a quibble. Fast offerings are not "collected", they are "received". They are not a bill to be paid, they are a free will offering (hence the name), and the Deacons who receive them are acting as the Lord in receiving them. This is not a trivial thing. By using the word "collect", we make it less noble, less virtuous, and less godly than it is, than we have a right for it to be. Lehi

Sorry, folks; neither bat nor Glock will do. Zombies die only if you behead them or damage their brains. Lehi

We can, since "Judeo-Christian" predates either Jesus' birth or Judah's — it goes back to Adam. And you have evidence that what we're doing is "improving"? How? What? Who decides it's "improving" and not "regressing"? You seem to be suffering from a severe case of chronocentrism and, specifically, presentism. Lehi

I suspect Joseph Smith's candidacy evoked more than "a response". I also suspect the "response" was more against what people think he said, rather than what he actually said. He hasn't said anything "anti-Muslim", but more anti stupidity on the part of the immigration policy of this current admuckitupistration. And, what he said about illegal Mexican immigrants is undeniably true. Some of them are rapists, drug dealers and so on. Few of them are upper or middle class folk. The data are clear. Most of the anti-Trump rhetoric is based on completely erroneous reports of his words, or, if the words are given, they're out of context and sandwiched between a lot of left-wing propaganda. Lehi

It's been my experience that atheists are the thinnest skinned, most easily offended folk on the planet. In addition to which, they are the most "evangelical". They want everyone to accept their (un)belief. Lehi

When I quoted your own words, you were a bit techy, fer shure. You accused me of cherry picking, but as far as I could tell, there wasn't any other reasonable way of interpreting your statement. And you have yet to answer the question, how do you know your morality is objectively moral, truly moral, the quintessence of morality, whatever-term-you-like morality? Lehi

Not merely pay for them, but enjoy it. Lehi

"Spew" is a bit prejudiced. If what we're seeing in the run up is indicative, that spew should be interesting, indeed. One can only hope that those who vote for a living care at all about security and such. It might also be fun to see how they react to the leaked DNC files showing the DemoComm Party is far more racist than the Ferguson, MO, police department where three or four eMails were enough to burn the city down and fire the police chief. Lehi

It wouldn't take many such killings to keep her out of office if the frame up were announced on the leftstream media. As it is, the progressives are hiding it, not exposing it. The circumstances scream don't rock her boat or die. (And that boat isn't wholly political.) Lehi

Some are, some may not be. Exogamy being what it is, and the fact of (classical) rape's being a widespread practice the world around, and notably in the Americas, it would surprise me not at all to find out that all Indians have an ancestor from the Land of Jerusalem. Lehi

This is the kind of thing we need to see more often if Muslims are ever going to be seen as assimilating into Western Culture: Lehi

Once again, you make the mistake of assuming there is no good reason. You don't accept the reasons, but that does not make the reason "ungood". Lehi

Yea, verily. The "Lecture Before the Veil" (now incorporated into the introduction) tells us that it is so. I believe it. Lehi

This is just one of the latest examples: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/11/politics/donald-trump-military-courts-election-2016/index.html But that's not quite accurate. Hrere's the pull quote: Those housed at Guantánamo Bay, even those who are USAan citizens, are prisoners of war. It is not only constitutional, but rational, to try them as such. Lehi

One wonders what he's done or said that points to this. Everything he has said, from "the wall" to a temporary ban on immigration, is just either common sense or executing the law as we have it. Lehi

I don't see any significant difference between her doing it (ordering it done) or someone else ordering it done or doing it because he wants her in the Oval Office. The effect is the same, and "birds of a feather …" 'n all. Lehi

Perhaps, but that ship has sailed. You don't want to rally 'roun' Trump. What are you going to do? Lehi

The three do not necessarily align. So, we're back to what's wrong with murder if it enhances one person's :well being"? He's an individual, isn't he? Lehi

This sure sounds like it: Lehi

Again, you reject evidence because it doesn't conform to your notion of "actual evidence". You can't measure temperature with a compass, nor distance with a spectroscope. You are trying to do the same kind of thing. Lehi

CFR Well, the reference for my having read it is my statement that I have. Do you doubt that, meaning, are you calling me a liar? But, I assume that you mean I should tell you what book(s) I have read to support my conclusion. Very well, here's the one I rely on the most: Joseph L. Allen, PhD., Exploring the Lands of the Book of Mormon, ISBN 6-87747-059-1, Orem, Utah, Publishers. Others are on line (primarily video accounts of the Arabian trek and, specifically, Bountiful). I don't have the URLs handy, but you can search for "The waters of Moses" Laman Lemuel Nahom. I have another book I can't find right now, by a husband-wife team who went to Yemen and discovered a highly likely candidate for Bountiful. Finally, Joseph Smith's words, i.e., "… the initial landing site of Lehi's colony, sometime after 600 B.C., was in Peru or Chile, thirty degree south latitude." Some people dispute this as authentic, but I've seen it in several articles and books some glowingly supportive, others, like Allen, disapprovingly. Lehi

Then you have not read Nibley's Lehi in the Wilderness. And that's, what, a half century old? Since then Lehi's Arabian trek has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt. All the elements are there, Shazar, Nahom, Bountiful, even Laman/Lemuel, three days journey into the wilderness. Lehi