Bad Karma

SAY WHAT????????

The lack of return posting makes me fear the worst may have taken place. That is a marital tragedy.

Hi Brother Jordi! Hey, you don't have to fade out of the church to get the church to lift some of those callings off of your shoulders. We would like to think that ALL callings are divinely inspired, by and large I think most are, but remember, sometimes those handing out the callings are influenced by other things, for one thing, their perception of you, time availability and energy available coupled with a need to fill the calling. You are under no obligation to accept a calling, sometimes that means being firm, when you know you are overloaded or not cut out for the calling, that might be a good time to utilize the power of saying NO. Talk to your home teacher, talk to your Bishop, voice these concerns. More often than not, your Bishop won't want to saddle you with more than you feel you can handle. Bail out of leadership in YSA. Enjoy participating in it, but since your voice is ignored, let another member be saddled with being in leadership of it. This is a source of stress for you. Nip that in the bud. Don't feel bad, some people are not a good fit for EVERYTHING. I'm a ONE CALLING at a time guy, many a Bishop has heard my firm NO to more than that. Sometimes, I don't even have a calling! Ah. moments of bliss. Heavenly father knows when I am loaded down with whatever and am needing moments to recoup and even heal. Yes, callings run the church, but they must be spread around amongst the body of Christ, not piled up on one member that gives the impression that they can shoulder numerous callings. heavenly father already knows your pair, he's already appreciative of you for doing what you've done, never be afraid to go to him and ask him for respite. He **IS** the harbor where you can go for calm waters to weather out the storm. Some callings you may one day want, ask your Bishop about them and voice your desire. An example, I am 50 years old. When my youngest son is over 18 and can handle the house himself for a couple of years whilst in college if he is not on a mission is to go on a senior mission with my wife. I talk about wanting to go on a senior mission often, just to keep it on the minds of people I want to be aware of it. I never got to be a full time missionary, I got to be a ward missionary. I don't know you, but I thank you for serving as you have thus far, our beautiful church and it's wonderful people. Blessings!

Oh, I don't know. I'm not a big fan of my Bishop. I'm not going to drag him down, I just don't like him. But if it means not getting saddled up with his job, he's a great guy! Love him! GO BISH!

The WORST thing you could ever do is "get out", and the consequences will be bitter, hard, down right unlivable. God does NOT break up families, the deceiver does, and he is VERY good at it and he has obviously been speaking to you, worse yet is that you have been listening to him. Should you choose to "get out", you will be victimizing yourself, victimizing your husband, victimizing your children, all for the illusion of looking for "the right one" or to be "happy" (Selfish). You live in a nation that holds marriage cheaply and makes divorce EASY, what does that tell you? You'll find no shortage of people who are essentially going to reap God's wrath, giving you advice about getting out. These are people who weather aware or not, serve the deceiver. What you need to do is make a decision RIGHT NOW, you're sticking with it for good, or your not, abide that decision for the rest of your life, because the consequences are life long. I think you already know what the right choice is. So make it, hold no regret, be happy in your family, for family is the well spring from which joy flows.

That's not unreasonable request. What kinds comments and insinuations is he making? My beautiful wife is irrationally jealous and very insecure, she has no reason to be and I will never give her a reason, but it effects her deeply and brings her great pain. It breaks my heart she is so tormented, because I love her dearly. She literally is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in every way. I'm blessed to be married to her. As far as my fidelity to her, I am a mountain that can't be moved, chipped away at, a rock if you will.

Oh? Man, I'm kinda a pretty intense PTSD case, without therapy, I'm tons of fun.

Why would a gay person want to be Mormon? I know one gay dude that is/was LDS, he was excommunicated when he married a man. I'm not a bishop, I'm not going to get into the meat and potatos of it. We need ALL sinners in our church, so that they can become better, healthier people, brought to our savior so that they have ample opportunity to experience his love. We do insist one cease already well covered conduct, and by and large, we'll help you with it, minus felony conduct, jails and prisons will help you out with that, as one can expect. Christ wants his lost sheep, we are all his lost sheep for as long as we are subject to the human condition, I confess, most of the men in my ward are far better men than I am. I never "expect" a temple recommend, I lay it on the line to the Bishop and Stake President for their decision as to my worthiness. They see something in me that I don't. Perhaps they look upon me with God's eyes. I continue to repent for a lifetime of disappointing my God for I have lived with one foot in hell, and the other on the earth, only by grace does my God reach out his hand to pull me out of the jaws of perdition or I would surely die spiritually, I am unworthy, but for some odd reason, our savior takes pity on me. I guess he's just got a soft spot for a lost cause. Yes, I have tattoos, lots of them.

I love the calm that a lower libido has given me, my wife is still full of questions about it, I simply let her know it's just the natural slowing down a man experiences, I still pursue her, just not as often, she's still quite attractive to me, I just no longer have the drive a pimple infested 16 year old boy does. I'm very happy with that, I've got more fishing and hunting done than I would have imagined! Very healthy pursuits. As for porn, I feel like I can just loftily walk on by it as if it didn't exist and just not care. There are real blessings to getting a little older. A calmness, a sense of balance and tranquility.

*Scoff* I'll have you know that while I am a short 5' 08", I am 148 lbs, a total clean freak. My primary interests besides my family are fishing, hunting, paragliding, hang gliding, sky diving, and Scuba Diving, and yes, I also like gaming with the same friends that I had when I was 12, and I am 50 (Ew, I hate that number) now. Don't be hating on my nerd-dom now!

*lol* Hey man, you mean to tell me as an eleven bang bang you never played D&D inside the wire on down time? I don't believe it!

Me too! Fun stuff.

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! -Isaiah 5:20

Holy side track BATMAN!! From PORN to VIDEO GAMES to COLLEGE!

I understand being afraid of things where your spouse is concerned. It's a horrible thing when one's spouse does things that causes the other terrible grief and fear. Reading that you love your husband even more through this is exactly the kind of love Christ has spoken of so many times, it's a perfect love, while you're not prideful of the love you bear your husband through this, your love and devotion is ever so honorable. It is incredible, wonderful and blessed. I don't have any answers to give you about what to do except to take your troubles in this matter to heavenly father, having done that, you have done exactly what is necessary. It is a wonderful wife who stands beside her husband through his trials in life, for such a wife is truly what heavenly father intended for man. Blessed is your husband. I'm so glad he has you by his side through his pain and his addictions for these are truly illnesses and sicknesses of the spirit, and I imagine the torment is huge. You two hold on to one another with all your might. Such a love is truly beautiful and overcomes all adversities.

MadMaddy, The above is an example of advice in which to take caution in. There are NO cookie cutter people, everyone is dynamically different, so are their personal hells and afflictions. In situations such as these, counsel is best sought of from heavenly father, human reasoning is simply not enough to grasp such things anymore than human reasoning is enough to defeat such things for those who are afflicted by them. Remember, we literally live in the deciever's playground, his most favorite and prized goal is to destroy marriages, for when he destroys a marriage, he destroys a family, when he destroys a family, he has within his grasp the bitter souls now divided and broken. So, such advice above is inherently dangerous and serves the deceiver's goals, not heavenly fathers. Of course, the solution is not easily reached either, which is why I said to seek the answers from heavenly father instead, the authority on all things. Your bishop can "assist", but still, such guidance must come from heavenly father. I'm sure the poster I have quoted means well and has no ill intent, but you don't go to Mc Donald's for open heart surgery, you don't go to Subway to have your transmission worked on, and you don't go to human beings for answers on what to do when your marriage is in crisis. I would challenge you to spend some time in the temple. Ask friend's to take your names to the temple for prayer. This is a very complex problem, you need the "Expert of ALL" to handle this, ask for it.

Drink a monster, listen to 80s heavy metal, leave all the cupboard doors open, just because... Go to a restaurant, order milk with your meal, ask for a straw, blow bubbles in your milk while humming, you'll drive everyone nuts. Draw smiley faces on every piece of paper you handle, this is going to make people confused yet too afraid to ask why. As a matter of routine, start talking to yourself every time someone is looking at you. There, now you've been rebellious, you didn't get yourself excommunicated, divorced, arrested, etc, but you will have managed to unbalance your own little corner of the world just enough to make life interesting. Have fun...

With exception of the temple, I wear jeans to church. Occasionally, I'll feel like dressing "up" and sport a suit, if I were an automobile, I'm not a Mercedes, I'm an older "metal" Jeep Wrangler.

OP, Ouch! This is a tough thread! You've already been given GREAT ADVICE by several people. You two can't be trusted to be alone together without messing up, stop allowing yourselves the opportunity to be alone together! I'm glad your bishop is helping you with repentance, but there is a problem here, you are NOT repentant if you keep doing it. Your bishop is only going to be cool just so long before things really go sideways. (Don't be THAT person lest you wish to become an example of what not to do, the cautionary tale) Have you considered wearing tear gas instead of perfume? One of you needs an edge to help you both with self control, might as well be a chemical agent! (Levity added, just because)

They try to understand, it's not always effective. I started participating in "Guitars 4 Veterans" as well, I just bring my own guitar, I'm not to their group, but it is supposed to help with healing the spirit inside, to allow each to find peace through music. That's is help at the VA, my VA peer counselor turned me on to that.

Take a knee in front of me during the national anthem, well, I'll dump my slurpee on your head, after that, we'll figure out where it goes from there. I'm Mormon, not perfect.

Yeah, me too. Mrs. Karma is just so darn cute, and the way she looked at me touched off global warming, so, right under God, I prioritized her, everything else became secondary. She's still just so darn cute.

Yes, I'd be driving in from California. I don't really know anyone in SLC, but it is a total dream destination to go visit that temple! I get excited just thinking about it when I consider everything that went into building it. Yes, I'm trying to go on the cheap.

Estowife, I challenge you to see beyond his anger, anger is a secondary emotion, usually secondary to fear. I have my own reasons for why this thread breaks my heart, I can only tell you don't give up, look for what it is that is actually eating at him. Remember that he is God's son. Hang on to one another with all your might, get help from your bishop in saving your marriage. Husbands and wives are not supposed to be disposable. This is not how it is meant to be. It was worth loving him in the beginning, then it is worth loving him now. May the spirit show you the way.

Ok, here we go! I'm planning on taking a trip to SLC by myself, packing up a few items of clothes, my suit and temple stuff so I can go attend the temple in SLC! It's been on my bucket list, I have some time alone presently, so, that is how I want to spent it, visiting temples. I don't know anyone in SLC really, I don't know how popular couch surfing with members is for the purpose of a temple visit is, and if not, anyone have good intel on the best near by motel's on the cheap? I'm pretty excited at the thought of going to the SLC temple.