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  1. Those are two different kinds of drawing attention to oneself, one being sexual in nature and the other being weird/artistic/socially non-conforming, counter-cultural or subversive. If intentional, it is done in the spirit of pride. If unintentional, it is simply unwise and hopefully receptive to correction. In either case, if it is not drawing attention to Christ, or getting in the way of that, why do it? There are also overt and excessive, and subtle and culturally acceptable ways of drawing attention to oneself sexually or socially/culturally, and intentionally and not. Having the name of Christ upon us, I think we are happiest when we are willing and strive to dress and groom ourselves in a way that draws people to Him. President Nelson recently said ("Let God Prevail" in October 2020): "When your greatest desire is to let God prevail, to be part of Israel, so many decisions become easier. So many issues become nonissues! You know how best to groom yourself. You know what to watch and read, where to spend your time, and with whom to associate. You know what you want to accomplish. You know the kind of person you really want to become." Elder Bednar reiterated this (April 2021): "Note how many crucial decisions and life experiences can be influenced by the principle of being willing to let God prevail: dating and marriage, gospel questions and concerns, temptation, personal grooming, what to watch and read, where to spend time, with whom to associate, and many, many more."
  2. I think modesty entails an unassuming, moderate, proper and decent spirit in dress, grooming, language, arts and media, and most of the five senses -- what we perform, listen to, watch, touch, and even how we use perfume. I think the Church curriculum covers this.
  3. I think it is the result of the taint of hypersexualized society, which became that way largely for marketing purposes. And when the success of "sex sells" was demonstrated, a variety of secular/political ideologies have adopted the approach (see how this is done in the mass media). So even the "elect" are prone to compromise their sexual expression through dress, entertainment and other means. And many "elect" were already prone to being prudish and judgmental, so this hypersexualizing just gives them more fodder on one hand or hypocrisy on the other. Both men and women are manipulated in these ways, but the focus on women, I believe, has to do with men being the ones with the greater disposable income. But as women get more economic power, the recent trend to oppose "Eurocentric" beauty standards in advertising, media, etc. is very sexualized as a means to draw their dollars. Even "Me Too" has gotten sexualized in a way, in that to get the point across, some boldly assert their sexuality as an antidote to sexual shaming. All this plays out in dress and grooming among many other choices. Just my opinion.
  4. I think "For the Strength of Youth" pretty much covers it for youth and adults. I would say that the principle applies to all and that it begins with a modest (unassuming, moderate, proper and decent) spirit.
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    Faith vs Knowledge

    I think it might help to compare "having faith, believing something, and believing in something" with "having knowledge, knowing something, and knowing in something." On the surface, "knowing in something" may not seem to make much sense. But we can know in something just as we have faith in something. For example, "I know in my heart that God lives. I know in my testimony that God lives. I know in the scriptures/covenants/ordinances/doctrines/commandments that God lives." This suggests that faith and knowledge are two forms of the same thing -- they are certainly part of the same spiritual dynamic described in Alma 32. Faith and foreknowledge have the same power and effect, as do faith and testimony of things as they are, and as do faith and seeing through or beyond the Veil. Knowledge of things as they are to come, as they are, and as they were is a definition of truth, and the assurance of this truth is a definition of faith. Assurance and knowledge cannot exist apart from each other, otherwise the knowledge is in vain and the faith is in vain.
  6. No benefits, just a personal preference/indulgence that the Church accommodated in gentler times when the values between Church and society we not that far apart. But we have to focus of the essential ordinances if we are going to mature and move toward a Zion society.
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    Why did she stay?

    Because you have a sense that He will alleviate your shame, provide a new start, help you do better, etc. Because you are grateful you did not suffer the full consequences.
  8. Uhh. . . Can someone love the gospel and not love Jesus Christ at the same time? I'd say the two are mutually exclusive when it comes to a point of not even trying. (Looks like you responded to this already) There are people of all stripes who love the gospel to the degree of light they possess, and their moral choices reflect their understanding of the Lord's commandments. If they reject greater light, or live contrary to greater light and the attendant commandments, the face the consequences. If they are members of the Church, consequences would involve a restriction or denial of privileges. However, we do not teach people to strive for lesser light, lesser kingdoms of glory, etc. We do teach them to do the best they can in their circumstances, relying of the mercy and grace of Christ, and that no opportunity for the blessings of exaltation will be denied the willing, true and faithful.
  9. You used the word "but", but I would say "I’m referring to people who love the gospel, and choose to live a homosexual lifestyle." That puts them on equal footing before God in their life's journey to love the gospel more and to choose to live a covenant lifestyle. Many religious denominations and philosophies find homosexual lifestyles to be in alignment with God's will, and so they have a measure of the gospel in their lives. The LDS Church finds the covenant path (as we define it) to be in alignment with God's will. As I mentioned above, those "who love the gospel, and choose to live a homosexual lifestyle" should be welcome in our Church and strive to learn and to stay. But they are free to resign or receive excommunication if they feel that strongly about the terms of membership relative to their lifestyle. Yes, I believe it is "worth while or worth our time to help someone grow in basic Christian principles, such as faith hope and charity, when they reject specific and essential laws of God, such as the word of wisdom, law of chastity or modern revelation" until they repent, resign or receive excommunication.
  10. I’ve never heard of the teaching that people in the terrestrial kingdom should not wish to go the celestial kingdom. I’ve heard that we will eventually be happy wherever we end up (because we chose it) and uncomfortable wherever we don’t end up (because we didn’t choose it). If someone intentionally seeks to live outside of exaltation, or have given up hope for such, I would say they have not yet comprehended the Atonement of Christ. We are promised that if someone loves God and keeps the ordinances and covenants, no blessing will be withheld. If a blessing seems unappealing or out of reach, that is where faith, hope and charity come in handy. Members who advertise that they are not seeking, or have given up hope, should be welcomed and loved in our meetings and discussions on this topic. These discussions should be void of contention and focused on the Atonement and doctrine of Christ. Human nature being as it is, people will have to rely on the Lord’s grace for this to go smoothly. Given our central message, I don’t think we should give equal time encouraging people to aspire or acquiesce to notions of dwelling outside of God’s presence. We should encourage them in their condition (Mosiah 18: 7 - 11) and help them to grow in faith.
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    Matthew 11:29 - 30

    I think His yoke is easy in comparison to pulling our burdens alone (D&C 19: 15-20).
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    Sanctuary of the Church

    A Catholic convert, my wife says the same thing. On the other hand, these might describe Charismatic Catholics. This and last week's CFM lessons were all about proper spiritual manifestations, and reverence in my opinion is a spiritual manifestation.
  13. If the grave has no victory, why is it we are sad when people die? I think the reason(s)varies from person to person. Is it a sign that faith truly is not a knowledge of things? Perhaps; it could be a lack of knowledge. Does it show a lack of belief/faith in the gospel? Not necessarily; we awaken our faculties to draw near to God. Are we actually mourning the fact that we are worse off without them? It depends, everyone is different. Are we mourning because we won't see them for a long while? It depends, everyone is different. Was he weeping because he died, or was he weeping because he saw the sorrow of those close to the death? I believe the latter. Are our spirits just naturally inclined to value life since that is the whole purpose of our existence here? Yes, but that does not necessitate sadness with the passing of a loved one: "The afternoon my mother died, we went to the family home from the hospital. We sat quietly in the darkened living room for a while. Dad excused himself and went to his bedroom. He was gone for a few minutes. When he walked back into the living room, there was a smile on his face. He said that he’d been concerned for Mother. During the time he had gathered her things from her hospital room and thanked the staff for being so kind to her, he thought of her going into the spirit world just minutes after her death. He was afraid she would be lonely if there was no one to meet her. "He had gone to his bedroom to ask his Heavenly Father to have someone greet Mildred, his wife and my mother. He said that he had been told in answer to his prayer that his mother had met his sweetheart. I smiled at that too. Grandma Eyring was not very tall. I had a clear picture of her rushing through the crowd, her short legs moving rapidly on her mission to meet my mother." So despite there being a deeply rooted belief of an afterlife, our souls cannot help but feel sorrow when there is a loss of life? Not necessarily. Is it possible to experience the death of a close one and feel no sorrow because one's faith in an afterlife is so strong that they know they will see them again? Yes, it is possible. If yes, should we be concerned about the strength of our faith if someone dies and we are sad? I think we should always look for opportunities to increase our faith, and observing (both in the sense of acknowledging and processing instead of denying or repressing) our emotions, in concert with the companionship of the Holy Ghost, is one way to to that.
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    Beware your “Mormon Therapist”

    I'm not sure what to make of an informal survey. The 51% reflects what I would think the odds are, given that virtually everyone receiving therapy needs to learn to adjust their broader expectations anyway.