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    Isaiah 9:6

    On what basis do you conclude this? Joseph's "revelation?" Cuz I read the original texts quite often and my 1611 KJV, (comparing them) though limited in English, is pretty on the money.
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    Isaiah 9:6

    2 John 1 says that if anyone come preaching a different Gospel than that which was first delivered; that which is revealed in Scripture, he is a deceiver and an antichrist. And to not receive him into your home or bid him Godspeed. So..."similarities," according scripture, if there be major discrepancies in Gospel content, are not enough to even sustain relationship between us, let alone unity. God wants us to love one another, of course. But this is a MAJOR issue for both and all parties. LDS' mal-concern with addressing and once and for all sorting this out...is alarming to me...if you be Christians indeed (not rhetorical). I think Catholicism is a pagan, Roman death cult but I know Catholics who I believe to truly be saved. But we GOTTA discuss this stuff.
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    Isaiah 9:6

    I'm ALL ears, ladies and gents. I really am. And now, if I may...I'd kinda like to address some seemingly fallacious scientific and philosophical posits that have been made. Namely, that of matter being eternal. I'm not currently aware of any sound bodies of evidence to suggest matter is eternal. Moreover, if a creator is not separate from his creation...my confidence in knowing what "creator" means begins to falter I suppose. This is not meant to sound anti-Mormon or condescending in ANY way. But my thing is this: I have zero issues with the Mormon Church positing whatever it may about "God" or any facet of life now and life after, but why the incentive to appeal to Christianity, or the Bible as a "confirming source." Biblical Christianity and Mormonism are wildly different. Why not just say that, on the nose? "We believe this. It's an entirely separate thing, but we believe it." And that'd be fine. Most "anti-Mormon rhetoric is a result of Christians who say to themselves "that's not Scriptural and I feel convicted to not stand idly by while someone perpetuates a non-Christian theological worldview whilst claiming Christian foundations." i hope none of that comes off nasty or arrogant. I think it's just valid and I worthy of discussion. Hope you guys hear my heart in all of that.
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    Isaiah 9:6

    Couple things. I'll just number em to help myself along. I'm a tad scatterbrained. 1. Anti-Mormon sources? Not sure what those would be. All I've done is ask questions thus far, seeking to understand the major differences in Mormon and Christian theology. Why the defensiveness? At what point did my questions seem "anti-Mormon or even rhetorical for that matter. 2. I have Mormon friends and I'm seeking to understand what the Mormon church at large believes. The deity of Christ seemed to be a hot button issue. So here I am. Asking questions. 3. My issue with Jesus being created is that Collosians passage. That He created all things, seen and unseen. In Genesis 1 you have "In the beginning God." In John 1 you have "In the beginning was the Word." I think it's safe to say that the beginning of John 1 is referential to Genesis 1, and goes on to say that Jesus is that same God, who created all things...which would have to include Lucifer. So Jesus, brother of Lucifer? Or Jesus, creator of Lucifer? That's simply a question I have. Because I'm genuinely confused, looking for help. To allegorize "everlasting Father" seems a tad reachy...hermeneutically, no?
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    Isaiah 9:6

    I suppose there are different sects of Mormonism? cuz I thought y'all believed Jesus was the spirit brother of Lucifer, begot by The Father and His goddess...making Jesus "creatED"
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    Isaiah 9:6

    Honest question about Mormon theology. How do the LDS interpret this passage? it seems to speak to not only the deity of Christ but also to His oneness with the Father, as God. This and verses like Collosians 1:16 and John 1 make it difficult for me to see Jesus as anything short of Creator God. Thanks for any and all thoughts!