Fether

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  1. What do you mean? Like the continent? The ideology? The politicians? The people?
  2. And maybe the situation with Job and the dialogue between God and the Devil was just the scribe's way of reconciling why Job was facing so many trials just thoughts! I do agree though, I'm not sure what all is literal and what isnt
  3. Just a thought on the story of Jonah... it never really says he was alive while in the whale. God may have just brought him back to life after he washed up on the shore
  4. Remember it is according to our WANTS and NEEDS. I want a drumset... most people don't. My friend wants a road bike and bike racing equipment... I don't. I know in the eternities that I will want a strong sounding, easy to tune, 4 piece pearl drumset with either Evans or aquarian drum heads, zildjan cymbals (and maybe 2 wuhan chinas), and a nice crisp high hat. All worth around $3000-$5000 in the US. If I were living in a small community with the law of consecration in full swing, I would settle with a small, 4-piece travel drum-kit, worth $400-$600 approx. If the whole church were doing it, maybe a regular sized stock pearl set worth around $700-$900 (I just want to note that the cheapest drumset you can buy on the market is around $300). If I saw my buddy Rob (who is infinitely better at all things percussion) running around with a $2000 drum set while I only had a $700 one, I would be fine he would want it more and would likely use it for his career. The Law of consecration does not entail all of us having the same clothes, same food, same house, and same car, but rather is a community of people with a desire for their neighbor to be well off and happy. Everyone in such a community finds more joy in their neighbor's success than their own. the personality trait that prescribes the thinking "Why does he get more than me!?" Is one of the main reason we can't live the law today. Also, dealing with your question about equal in Heavenly things, take this quote into consideration: "A Saint who is one in deed and in truth, does not look for an immaterial heaven, but he expects a heaven with lands, houses, cities, vegetation, rivers, and animals; with thrones, temples, palaces, kings, princes, priests, and angels; with food, raiment, musical instruments, etc., all of which are material. Indeed, the Saints’ heaven is a redeemed, glorified, celestial, material creation, inhabited by glorified material beings, male and female, organized into families, embracing all the relationships of husbands and wives, parents and children, where sorrow, crying, pain, and death will be no more. Or to speak still more definitely, this earth, when glorified, is the Saints’ eternal heaven. On it they expect to live, with body, parts, and holy passions; on it they expect to move and have their being; to eat, drink, converse, worship, sing, play on musical instruments, engage in joyful, innocent, social amusements, visit neighboring towns and neighboring worlds; indeed, matter and its qualities and properties are the only beings or things with which they expect to associate" - Orson Pratt I think Heavenly equality is much like earthly equality. You may also add spiritual gifts and Christlike attributes.
  5. Phinease and Ferb white collar Doctor Who Black List Flash Arrow Legends of Tomorrow sherlock
  6. What about in this scenario? They seek inspiration on how to get home and are sent in a wrong way... but later realize it was for a greater purpose. Not defending my original comment, it was just a thought. I'm more challenging your answer.
  7. I knew a bishop in KY that was set in the idea that that was where the Book of Mormon took place. I do t remember specifics, but I guess there is a massive ancient battlefield where millions of arrow heads still rest today. He also suggestrf that at that time, "North" referred to "up hill" rather than the direction. I wonder if God inspired Joseph to put inaccuracies in the geography and directions to prevent us from finding places in the Book of Mormon
  8. I agree with the idea... but execution has always been a major issue. I do, however, have faith that we won't see similar executions of this standard as we have seen in more left colleges.
  9. Interesting thought! I agree that he taught us the why of the plan, but I would say that we never got a "sneak peak" of our life. Nor did we pick the trials that we were. And I assume you know this, but we weren't just chilling, but we were learning and living like we do here over the eternities.
  10. I've always been under the impression that I will never "get ahead" by any means beyond education and hard work x) the riskiest thing I have ever done was start a business. which so far has been successful in the sense that I have made money.
  11. @person0 I gotchya I always understood it like this: If a spirit was good, he was foreordained to the church. If he was bad or lukewarm, he was not. I imagine there were those that were foreordained and failed to, but there were none that were not foreordained and later repented and changed. That would suggest God dis not they would later be good. sons of perdition are not foreordained to the gospel.
  12. In the LDS church, a lot of things been said about a lot of things and many of those things contradict other things. So in this world of many things, what things Are true, and what things are not true things? Beyond use of the spirit, I have always gone with the idea that any statement with the church's logo stamped on it can be trusted 100% and all other statements, regardless of who said them, are up in the air.
  13. Let me rephrase... I don't think there is any doctrine in the church, old or new, that the church keeps out of lesson books. But regardless of the controversy of the doctrine... it is still there and we will all need to come to terms with it eventually.
  14. I don't know that there are any teachings old or new that are not taught in class. Even as early as gospel principles it states we will be god's.
  15. I have played with the idea that God was just a man part of a highly technologically advanced human race that squires immortality, then to build a perfect society, the "god's" built this simulation for all men to go down before become part of such a perfect society. Only those that pass this simulation will acquire said "God hood" and he a part of this eternally growing perfect society. This is of course all hullabaloo and not worth spending time rationalizing https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/tad-r-callister_our-identity-and-our-destiny/ this talk was one of my first exposures to the topic and I feel it answers a lot of your questions. this doctrine doesn't diminish god, but raises us to him. God does not intend that he will always be a mystery, but that one day we will be to fully rationalize his greatness and understand how he got there. Why doesn't he do it now? a thousand years ago if a man cured a case of polio, he would be a magician or holy man. Today he would be a doctor or scientist, far less impressive. We may have a similar reaction to god if we understood everything today.
  16. You are not missing the mark in your desire to improve but maybe in your thought process. You said "I find myself everyday wanting to rely more on Jesus Christ in all my doings." D+C 58:26-29 says "26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward. 27 Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness; 28 For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward. 29 But he that doeth not anything until he is commanded, and receiveth a commandment with doubtful heart, and keepeth it with slothfulness, the same is damned." so be careful that you don't force direction from Christ, cause more often than not (depending on the scenario of course) you won't receive direction, but rather God wants you to act according to what you have already been taught. so what to do? Read scriptures every day, prayer regularly, magnify your callings (particularly home teaching!!!)... but really... go look at the covenants you have made in baptism and/or the temple and make sure you KNOW THEM and are living them to the fullest.
  17. I actually want you to be specific. The purpose of my thread was to pinpoint them. I here people complaining about them often... but like you said... I can't figure out what they are cause I don't think I've ever seen any of them (except maybe the "assigned seating"... which I don't really think counts).
  18. Ward Member 1: "boLth those movies are great!!" Ward Member 2: "I've seen them boLth, I love them!" New Member: I like them bOth too! Members 1&2: ... *awkward silence followed by judgement*...
  19. It's told that J Golden Kimball said that the only way to save the south is to burn it down and preach to the dead...
  20. After reading the Ensign Article titled 'We can do better: Welcoming others into the Fold', a question came to my mind. What are some cultural tendencies that are not doctrinal that you have personally noticed? I can only think of minor ones like blessing the food, or when a friend of mine snapped at me for saying the word "Token" outside of the temple. I ask this in hopes that I may find inconsistencies in my belief and can fix it.