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    Anyone Else Watching The Mandalorian?

    I think we are talking about different things. you said “that scoff at much in religion for being unrealistic and unrelated to reality are so attracted to modern sci-fi” I was intending to point out that the reason they are likely ok with sci-fi is because it isn’t trying to claim reality. Religion on the other hand is claiming reality for something equally as crazy as sci-fi. That is where they have the issue. One is a story, the other is reality. Maybe the misunderstanding was in my part
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    Anyone Else Watching The Mandalorian?

    Please enlighten me
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    Anyone Else Watching The Mandalorian?

    Sci-fi is rarely making an argument for being reality. And when it does it is in the realm of current scientific principles. That is why they are ok with it
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    Anyone Else Watching The Mandalorian?

    This actually was my original understanding, but a lot of people seem to be saying it is a differently titled show. But a Mandalorian season following Boba Fett is not too far fetched. He isn’t really a Mandalorian, but he carried the image
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    Anyone Else Watching The Mandalorian?

    Ooooo... good point... They will probably give it to him later or retcon it
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    Anyone Else Watching The Mandalorian?

    I’m pretty sure there is more Mandalorian coming. The whole side story of reclaiming Mandalore is actually a huge plot that spans back to before starwars episode 3. The dark saber and the whole thing with “who does it belong to” is a pretty big deal too. I think the next time we see the Din, it will be with Bo-Katan and other Mandalorians gathering together under the symbol of the dark saber and reclaiming their home. Perhaps once the Ahsoka series, Bobs Fett Story and the Republic Ranger series play out, everyone will come together again to reclaim Mandalore. Din, Bo-Katan, Ahsoka, and Boba all have connection to Mandalore so it really all makes sense. My guess... we go 1-3 years without any more Mandalorian (though Din will show up in the other tv series) so we can develop the other characters in their live action stories. Once we fall in love with them all and their main goals are accomplished, we will see a team up in Mandalorian seasons 3-4 where they take back Mandalore. That will finish off the Mandalorian series.
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    Video - Heavenly Father's Plan

    What the missionary leader was suggesting was that they look exactly how we are. There are fat spirits, Asian spirits, spirits with birth marks, etc.
  8. I see more and more of these videos, articles, and blog posts creeping into the church membership. They all have one thing in common. No scriptural or prophetic words backing them up. It just a soapbox of their own. Read Mothers Working Outside the Home and anyone can see that the church is against what she is advocating. They took it one step further in this video. They quoted Spencer W Kimball and said he was wrong... the only mention of scripture in the whole video related to her topic. The same thing is found in their modesty video and whenever they talk about young men not needing to serve missions. This episode belongs on the Mormon Stories Podcast A good 85% of Saints Unscripted is wholesome and Christlike. But these occasional opinion videos show just how accepting of Satan’s ideals “Saints” my age are. I want a good Latter-day Saint YouTube channel that focuses on nothing but the doctrine when it comes to these controversial topics. No opinion, just what has been said... however, I don’t suppose that would be popular enough to gather any notable following.
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    Video - Heavenly Father's Plan

    Unlike gender, I can’t think of any reference that suggests ethnicity is an eternal attribute we had in pre earth life, nor be carried to the afterlife. I suspect skin color is purely a product of evolution in mortality to form whatever attributes needed to survive or formed via cultural diets. Much like how today, humans are taller, live longer, are fatter, etc. I remember reading about a tribe in some remote corner of the world whose feet could spread out like a human hand. This was due to generations and generations of climbing trees (or something like that). When they die, I imagine their spirits and resurrected bodies would be reformed to match the reality of what God looks like. I suspect that when we die, there won’t be any skin colors. Now don’t think I am suggesting we will be see through, rather, the concept of skin color will be so far from our mind that we won’t even think of it.
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    Updates to the Handbook

    If this is new, did they just elevate the General Handbook to Doctrine!????? If so, I'm not certain how I feel about that. It could be an alarming precedent, seeing how easy it is to change things up in it. Don’t read into it too much. The scriptures and prophets show Gods will. The handbook is just the modern day interpretation of doctrine to meet our needs. I imagine the handbook is the only thing the church leadership has a close hand in putting together
  11. Thoughts on this statement? I personally could not subscribe to this thinking. I would live all the principles and continue to grow in the same ways I was in the church, but I would have a hard time being a member of it. I would, however, have an insanely hard time putting away the scripture we have and the words of the prophets. I will say it, the Bible is amazing and has some incredible scriptures... but it is limited when compared to the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, PoGP, and all the words of the prophets. The doctrines unique to the church would be so hard to let go of. I would likely get baptized as a Protestant Christian just to cover catholic and Protestant bases and begin my search for truth. I may end up going atheist though. It would be hard to give up so many amazing teachings for traditional Christianity. I get anxiety just thinking about it QUICK CLARIFICATION: Im not asking everyone’s plans of what they will do if the church is discovered, proven and admits to be false ... rather I am more curious about the notion of remaining a part of an organization despite realizing its falsehood and lies. This is more of a discussion on the rational of certain outcomes of a thought experiment then a thought experiment itself.
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    We all need some humor

    I’m sure @NeuroTypical will tell you where it is if he ever finds it
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    Your Favorite Netflix Series

    Community is great, once they graduate college everything gets a little stale though. They also got rid of the dnd episode, which I was told was one of the best, due to a character painting his skin brown because he was a dark elf. Racist I guess?
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    Your Favorite Netflix Series

    @Suzie Kobra Kai is absolutely amazing Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt is good, not amazing, just good. Avatar and Legend of Kora is good (not sure if they are still in) I thought Dash and Lillie was really good. It’s a teen Christmas romance. I typically don’t like those shows but I enjoyed this one. iZombie will always be one of my most favorite shows. It’s witty and takes a very unusual approach on a “zombie outbreak”. It is more of a crime comedy than a zombie movie, though it has aspects of a zombie movie in it. I hear Queens Gambit is good. It’s tvMA so maybe vid angel it?
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    Liberal Ideas Creeping In

    Holy goodness that is a great quote
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    Liberal Ideas Creeping In

    And that is where I choose to stop judging. However, keep this in mind. Maybe this thought experiment can put this into perspective and reveal the reality of such situations. A man living in a cave and he is given a jug of water every day. He has to use that water for himself, the garden he is growing so he doesn’t starve, and to put in a mini hydronic dam that powers the lights in his home. At the end of the day, there is not enough to do everything and he cries out “but I didn’t have enough water to keep myself hydrate, that’s why I’m dying!”. That won’t change the fact that he is dying. Perhaps he could have used less water to grow his food and sacrificed some food to stay hydrated longer, perhaps he was over using the lights? We don’t know cause we don’t know how much water was there so we can’t really make a good judgment. the same can be said about a family with limited time and resources. Do you provide for your family financially? Spiritually? Relationally? Whatever you neglect is going to suffer. In these cases, it is up to the parents to decide what the best decision is. In an ideal world, we all have enough time to provide for everything adequately, but that is not always the case. (On a somewhat side note, my opinion on church welfare has changed drastically. If a father cannot be home to be with his family because he has to work, it is time to let go of pride and reach out to the church for aide.) When it comes to mothers having a career and having children, they are always deciding that the time they spend at work is more important than the well being of the relationship they have with their kids. Whether this is true and it is the only source of wealth or if it is based in a desire to have nice stuff, that isn’t up to us to decide. Again, the issue is not the individual examples, it’s what the new standard is becoming
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    Liberal Ideas Creeping In

    Here is what you are referencing https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/broadcasts/face-to-face/oaks-ballard?lang=eng Again, this was a specific case where it was wise. They were too poor to even get married and the. He “went off to school” while she stayed to finish hers. It isn’t being taught that this should be the standard, but rather this is a response to a question about trying to balance getting an education and starting a family. HOWEVER... The most important part here is that she got her degree before having a family. It is said nowhere that women should not be educated. What is taught is that it’s the mothers duty to nurture the family and it is the fathers duty to provide. A mother who has the option to either raise her kids or work for financial comfort and let a day care raise their kids (by standard) should choose to raise her kids full time. The standard of living is sky rocketing. A three bedroom house you say?? Most of us grew up sharing their room with their siblings. At one point it was me and 2 siblings being raised in a 2 bedroom house. What you are suggesting is waiting to be comfortable before raising kids. Its been done for generations and it can be done today. I’m doing it right now actually and my wife and I are doing it on purpose. We are in a great financial situation. We have a 3 bed home and About to have 3 kids. We are choosing to put 3 kids in one room and save the 3rd room as a play room. Having 3 kids on one room is not a sacrifice. My sister in law has 4 in 1 room despite there being a whole different room available in the home. I don’t even have to go back to pioneer times to prove people can raise a family with little money. Go back one generation and you will see countless examples of families having 1 car and raising 3-5 kids on a two bedroom home. And to drive this home one last time. This is the STANDARD. Not the law. There are plenty of cases where this is not wise and individuals can make the standard decision. My complaint is that it is being taught and believed that everyone should be waiting for an education and a job before starting a family.
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    Liberal Ideas Creeping In

    This is not a failing of the proclamation, but a failing of the Father’s.
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    Liberal Ideas Creeping In

    It’s not a matter of letting people decide. Yes we should absolutely leave individual decisions to the individual. However what is happening among many Saints (particularly millennials and younger) is they are teaching the exceptions as being the rule. Whether it is gender roles, child bearing, word of wisdom, serving a mission, accepting callings, or obeying counsel from leaders, there is a mindset among many my age that the exceptions for each of these are actually the standard. If an individual young man says “I’m not going to serve a mission because I have a major heart condition” then great. What’s happening is now is virtually any reason to not serve a mission is becoming acceptable. It’s being taught at the lower levels of the church that it isn’t that important for young men to serve missions. Its being taught at the lower levels of the church that there are no gender roles. That our leaders are only inspired when we agree with them. That wit is appropriate in Gods eyes to wait for education to finish, a good paying job, a yearly visit to Europe to become stale and a Bugatti or two before having kids.
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    Liberal Ideas Creeping In

    The “standard” seems pretty clear. If it isn’t clear enough for you, here are other resources. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/eternal-marriage-student-manual/womens-divine-roles-and-responsibilities https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/the-eternal-family-teacher-manual/lesson-10-the-divine-roles-and-responsibilities-of-women https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/marriage-and-family-relations-instructors-manual/part-b-parents-responsibilities-to-strengthen-families/lesson-10-the-sacred-roles-of-fathers-and-mothers-part-1-fathers-roles https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1974/01/the-role-of-fathers https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/1977/10/father-your-role-your-responsibility There are exceptions to the rule of course, nobody is arguing that. But the standard is set and that is what we should be teaching. We should not be teaching the exceptions as being the standard.
  21. This is where my issues arise, and I will be reiterating what I said above, but I just need it driven home. Seeing someone knowingly drive 10 miles over the speed limit should not necessitate a question of faithfulness to the gospel and their willingness to rebel against small gospel rules (like prayer or studying scriptures daily). If you believe so, then by that logic we should also be asking ourselves: - Is someone really trying to take care of their soul and reach salvation if they choose to eat fast food and not take care of their body? - Is someone really trying to understand the gospel and it’s commandments if they fail to be 100% familiar with the forum rules? Though each worldly example may have effects or show small insights into how we see the gospel, we can’t make inferences on their righteousness nor is it a worth while question to be asking. So to answer your questions again. No, if someone is willing to speed, it does not mean they are willing to break seemingly “small” commandments for the sake of convenience. It means either (a) there is some level of weakness when it comes to civil law, (b) they understand the law differently and obey it by the spirit but not the letter (I drive the speed limit in heavy traffic but not in low traffic. Purely for safety reasons), (c) out of rebellion (in which there would be cause to question faithfulness), or any amount of other reasons. Its a matter of what’s in the heart, not what’s being done, that should bring cause to question one’s devotion to the gospel.
  22. to answer your question, I value the laws of God more than the laws of man (and I know one law of God is to obey the laws of man). The issue is what it seems you are suggesting is that if someone falls short on any law of man or God, they must be willing to to rebel any law. It’s a slippery slope fallacy if I ever saw one. Again, this isn’t a “Speeding” problem, it’s a “breaking small rules for convenience” problem. I don’t need a breakdown of each individual claim. I only ask, can you honestly say you have never knowingly broken any rule or law (man or God made) in the last year. You seem to be suggesting you are perfect at following every law, that you have never once I your recent life jaywalked, ran a red light at 3am, let a receipt or piece of paper of yours blow away in the wind, done something g your spouse or family member asked you not to do (no matter how small), etc. By your logic, unless you are perfect at keeping all the laws and rules of God, man, or requests from family members, we must assume that you are willing to break all laws of God if it benefits you. Its your conclusion that I disagree with, not whether speeding is wrong or not. If we see someone speeding, organizing a singing of happy birthday at a church activity, jaywalking, or standing within 6 feet of someone at a super market, we shouldn’t be asking ourselves “If they are willing to walk across Main Street at a non-designated cross walk, would they be willing to cheat on their wife?”
  23. We all have some line in the law we are willing to break for convenience. Whether it’s not putting on your seatbelt on to move your car 20 feet for a family member, singing happy birthday day at a church event, letting a piece of paper of yours to blow away in the wind, Running a red light at 3am cause you have been waiting for 15 minutes for it to change, or jaywalking across a mostly empty Main Street cause the nearest crossing is a 20 minute walk away. sure there are different levels of seriousness to each little law and consistently speeding is probably on the more serious end. But my point is that we all have a line of what laws are appropriate to break at what time. I definitely see Speeding as “not ok”. My complaint is that you seem to be virtue signaling a specific law that many see as not important but you take great pride in obeying. I’m just trying to counter your thinking and show that we are all guilty of disobeying “minor” laws, but still choose to do it out of convenience. But yes, I don’t think it’s a big deal to speed. Especially when everyone else is speeding, at that point it is a matter of safety and not obedience. Ultimately I am trying to answer your question by explaining to you that there are tiny laws we all ignore out of convenience and that it shouldn’t be grounds to question ones level of obedience to the gospel If there is an issue here, it isn’t a Utah problem but a world wide problem. Saints all over the world are dropping receipts, peeing behind trees, jaywalking across empty streets, running red lights in the middle of the night when there are no cars, singing happy birthday at young men/women’s, and sharing prescribed Tylenol to family with headaches.
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    Video - Heavenly Father's Plan

    I had a ward mission leader that probably read every possible publication by any member of the church ever and he was heavy into deep doctrine. He suggested that our spirits look just like how we look today, only perfected. No reference though