Fether

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  1. I don’t think it is intended to be a secondary name. Just an acknowledgement that this may have been the first covenant
  2. Memes making fun of the movement. I’m all for testimonies of the family proclamation, but using images and cheap jokes to make fun of what other people find important is not appropriate
  3. From the article: Sympathy,empathy, and compassion are all Topical Guide synonyms for love. Combined, they define our love for others as the state or condition of having internalized their well-being. … Adam Smith wrote, “Every man feels his own pleasures and his own pains more sensibly than those of other people”… divine love, the state or condition in which God has internalized our well-being, is the highest form of love because it is perfect, infinite, enduring, and universal…Sometimes we may not feel God’s love because we are unable or unwilling to pay the price—the price of internalizing the well-being of those around us… Part of that price is to sometimes suffer in place of, sometimes because of, and sometimes vicariously with those we love… to be in relationships with both God and others, we must willingly pay the price of love. As Sister Aileen H. Clyde explained, were we to refuse to pay the price love requires, “we would have to avoid what gives us life and hope and joy—our capacity to love deeply.” We willingly pay the price of love so we may experience joy. Of the Savior, Elder Bruce C. and Marie K. Hafen wrote that the Savior’s “infinite capacity for joy is the inverse, mirror image of the depth of his capacity to bear our burdens.”
  4. For Christmas, my wife bought me a subscription to BYUs religious educator magazine. I was looking through a recent issue and came across two article titles next to each other. ”was the earth formed from the debris of other planets?” and ”Feeling God’s Love” Had I opened up this issue even a year or two ago, I would have gone straight to the article about the earth coming from the debris of other planets. But this morning, it was a no brainer. I had no interest in how the earth was made, but rather I became deeply curious as to how else I could learn to feel God’s love. This has been an aspect of my life I have been seeking to change for a while. For most my life, I was like the Greeks on Mars Hill who wasted their time away looking for new things to hear (Acts 17:21). I’ve slowly progressed over the last year or two, but today I was confronted with two topics on opposite ends of my fight and I didn’t even hesitate which one I wanted to read. Over the last year, my interest has shifted from learning “new things” to learning how to become a “new creature” in Christ. Instead of stimulating my mind, I’ve sought to stimulate my soul into growing and overcoming the weaknesses I have. It has been a great year in which I have grown far more than I had in years prior. As you focus your studies on where you can improve, God helps you become whoever you want to be.
  5. Behind the school by the flag pole? Or is this an in the garden park with flintlocks type fight? …BYOF of course.
  6. I call this the “thirteenth apostle syndrome”. Our church, as I am sure you are aware, is run by the quorum of the twelve apostles as well as a presidency. There are cultural figures in the world that we come with powerful polarizing views that I see many people treat as the 13th apostle. I’ve seen good Christian people testify of Christ one day and the next post extremely hurtful things towards the LGBTQ, feminists, and other liberal movements. All the while they are blind to the hypocrisy.
  7. The people who declare “I don’t care what other people think” tend to be the people that care the most and are just trying to make themselves look good. The statement itself is defensive so they obviously feel some sort of an attack. The fact that they find themselves in a situation where they must declare such a statement is a sign that they do care… and care quite a bit. Example: Person A: I think you are a bad father! Person B: You are probably right, where can I improve? vs Person A: I think you are a bad father! Person B: Well I don’t care what you think! (Defensive)
  8. I don’t think the phrase really qualifies well what is intended to be communicated. A more careful phrase would be “Other’s opinions of me do not affect my happiness or how I view myself”.
  9. Is it possible for someone to cut down a massive redwood trees and just carve a kitchen table and chairs from the trunk? No need for screws or bolts!
  10. My wife and I bought this wonderful table about 2 years ago. It looked great, was big enough for our growing the family to last a long time, and was priced fairly well. However, shortly after we got it I found that each of the 5 chairs and bench have about 10,000 screws and bolts each. I have spent the last two years retightening the screws and bolts over and over. Today was almost the last straw. I was already fairly grumpy when we sat down to dinner. My so. Sat in the bench and I heard the dreaded sound of a nail bouncing on our floor. I about lost it. This can’t be normal! Is this what fatherhood is all about retightening screws for eternity? Are there chairs and tables out there that don’t have this problem? Is there a permanent fix?
  11. There are some secondary beliefs that aren’t taught anywhere, but rather they are assumed. I imagine some of those would need to be changed. The only real conflict I see is the “made in his image” but of our scripture.
  12. For me I went from thinking liberals were all idiots, to realizing everyone wants the same thing, we just have different beliefs for getting there, to thinking everyone was corrupt and every conspiracy is true, to now choosing to believe everything is awesome and there is no corruption in the government
  13. I made the decision a while ago to stop believing politicians are evil and the government is corrupt. I may be wrong or I may be right… who knows? But what I do know is that I’m happier and feel a LOT less anxiety
  14. I’ll add these two Kanarraville Falls Kolob Canyon
  15. Southern UT: - Arches National Park - Zion National Park - Capital Reef National Park - Snow Canyon State Park - Bryce Canyon National Park - Cedar Breaks State Park - Escalante - Moab Northern UT: - Park City - Salt Flats - Peter Sinks (coldest place in the continental USA) - Antelope Island - Salt Lake - this is the place state park - SLC temple - Bear Lake
  16. I have heard many time throughout my life that Christ is waiting for us to make Zion before he comes. I’ve also heard the opposite, that he is coming and we need to be ready for him. Is he waiting for us to be ready? Or are we waiting for him to be ready? No idea. I imagine the latter since that seems to be what scripture suggest. But I’m not married to that view. If the prior is true, there either needs to be some sort of mass coming to Christ or perhaps a removal of the non-valiant and the remaining saints will make up Zion. As for the faithfulness of each generation, supposedly they get better and better because each generation gets the same messaging it seems.
  17. Correct, I was responding to someone asking why they couldn’t participate. I was just pointing out that they couldn’t participate in the ordinances while holding on to those beliefs
  18. The OP comment about gays and the church assumed the conflict between the two, and the only conflict that exists is that of living a gay lifestyle while attending church. My comment carried the same assumptions Which is why it is difficult for someone who chooses to believe their homosexual lifestyle is good while attending a church that teaches the opposite
  19. Participating is no problem, this issue they have is mot having access to the high blessings and being around teachings that are contrary to their own beliefs.
  20. I’m reminded of Alma 3 where the allocates mark themselves to separate from the Nephites. It goes on to say that we bring upon ourselves our own Cursing. If I go and have sex with many women and contract HIV, every child I have from them on out has a high risk of getting HIV, and they too are passing that on to their children, and so on. This isn’t a curse from God, but rather a natural curse that was brought on by not listening to God. Similar thing happens with the Lamanites. If I abandon society and join a savage blood thirsty tribe, all my children will grow up to be savage blood thirsty people .
  21. He was responding to a post where I was trying to point out that declaring doctrine to him is likely mot what he wants, nor what is best for him. My response to his comment was in that context
  22. Yes, however, some doctrines for some people cannot be understood simply by throwing a book at them.
  23. I was always under the impression that we would all be happy regardless of where we go. That the separation of kingdoms wasn’t a “you weren’t good enough to go here so I am putting you here”, but rather a “you didn’t want to go here, but you wanted here instead”