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    JohnsonJones got a reaction from Jane_Doe in COVID update   
    Update before I am gone for a little while.  I don't think the election is going to change the state of the world or how the world views the pandemic...BUT...
    Pfizer just submitted a vaccine candidate to the FDA for approval.  I think they are also gearing up manufacturing of the vaccine right now.
    All it takes now is the FDA to rubber stamp it.  We could have it, not just before the election, but within the next few weeks.  Maybe not 100 million doses, or enough for everyone, but at least the vaccine coming out.
    If it IS delayed, it's ALL on the FDA, and from what I've been hearing from the FDA recently in the news...
    It COULD be that the Vaccine will be held up and "miraculously approved" depending on the election or results of the election.
    PS:  Also, it looks like I may be absent from the forums for a little bit.  Incident at the university (mine is not the first class).  Students are supposed to wear masks, social distance, and not come to class if they are feeling symptoms or ill and get tested.  Unfortunately, it appears that we just had several students break these rules and then tested positive for Covid-19.  Not sure if they will test me and all the other students (they didn't before with the other classes, just sent people to isolation/quarantine and if they felt symptoms are supposed to get tested, though I think there is a 15 minute test open to students if they wish).  Stinks.  Got a room in our house where I'll isolate myself from the wife and the rest of the family and HOPE I don't have it, and that if I do staying in that room will be enough to keep them safe.
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    JohnsonJones got a reaction from Jane_Doe in COVID update   
    Thank you.
    Still don't know all the procedures of what will happen, but they don't want me at the university the rest of this week (isolating from the school) and for about 2 weeks as long as I don't test positive or show symptoms, so I'll have to do all the classes from home.  I HOPE that I don't have it (or if I had it earlier in the year that I can't catch it again, or that I am immune to it...don't know).  Most help any can do is to pray I don't actually have it and pray for the students that they are either safe, or will recover rapidly.  I just know that Monday supposedly one of the students started to have symptoms and still came to school.  They went in for a test that evening and they got the results yesterday.  I was notified this morning, early.  I just hope students (and they probably are rejoicing that classes are cancelled today, at least my classes, until we get things set up for them to see me later this week via zoom on Friday) take it seriously. 
    Had time to kill while everything is getting ready, so taking one last visit to the forums before I'm banished to my room (well, not exactly MY room, but a room we set apart for me to be in while I am isolating, it's actually our library so I'll have plenty of reading material in my spare time at least!).
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Jane_Doe in COVID update   
    So sorry to hear that JJ!  
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Traveler in Conference October 3-4, 2020   
    One of my greatest experiences of life was basic training in the army.  There were no social filters.  We were not divided by intelligence, race, size, health, abilities or any other notable characteristic.   In addition we were all treated like the worthless scum of the earth.  Anyone that stood out for any reason was treated badly just for standing out.  I was very quickly singled out because I knelt beside my bunk on our first night to say my usual nightly prayers.  In addition, I did not swear, smoke, drink or brag about abusing women.  Enough about me.
    Every morning we all got up at the same time - no one was allowed to get up early or late.  We were all required to do the same thing.  Everyone had to shave weather they needed to or not.  We were all required to go to the bathroom.  We all got dressed in exactly the same style of cloths and were required to wear our cloths exactly the same.  If anyone did not follow the rules and requirements - we were all punished.  On occasion we were punished just for the fun of it.  We all went to breakfast at the same time and to the same place and ate the same food.  We could not leave the mess hall until everyone was done eating.  Every hour of every day we all did the same things.  If anyone did not qualify a minimum standard we were all punished and reprimanded for it.  Many times we were all required to do the same thing over and over until everyone got it right.  If there was ever a fight or disagreement with anyone among us; we were all required to "suffer" because of it.  Everywhere we went we had to be instep with each other - we even had to all swing our arms while walking in unison.
    It is spoken in scripture that in certain societies there were no rich or poor, no distinction between bond or free.  This experience of basic training is the closest I have ever been in my life to a social structure without prejudices.  I developed friendships with individuals that otherwise I would not even say hello to on a street.  I learned things about people different from me that I would not come to know by any other means.
    Jesus said to love everyone and to even have compassion for our enemies.  I have a difficult time with compassion - especially with what I think are "stupid people".  My wife is the opposite.   She is popular with everybody.  She does not even care who wins silly card games - even if someone cheats or changes the rules.  She just likes everybody.  And regardless of what someone is going through or feels at any given moment she understands and cares.  Mostly, she puts up with me.  She is just about the only person I know that is without prejudice - but in scripture it is called - "without guile".
     
    The Traveler
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    JohnsonJones got a reaction from Jane_Doe in COVID update   
    Update before I am gone for a little while.  I don't think the election is going to change the state of the world or how the world views the pandemic...BUT...
    Pfizer just submitted a vaccine candidate to the FDA for approval.  I think they are also gearing up manufacturing of the vaccine right now.
    All it takes now is the FDA to rubber stamp it.  We could have it, not just before the election, but within the next few weeks.  Maybe not 100 million doses, or enough for everyone, but at least the vaccine coming out.
    If it IS delayed, it's ALL on the FDA, and from what I've been hearing from the FDA recently in the news...
    It COULD be that the Vaccine will be held up and "miraculously approved" depending on the election or results of the election.
    PS:  Also, it looks like I may be absent from the forums for a little bit.  Incident at the university (mine is not the first class).  Students are supposed to wear masks, social distance, and not come to class if they are feeling symptoms or ill and get tested.  Unfortunately, it appears that we just had several students break these rules and then tested positive for Covid-19.  Not sure if they will test me and all the other students (they didn't before with the other classes, just sent people to isolation/quarantine and if they felt symptoms are supposed to get tested, though I think there is a 15 minute test open to students if they wish).  Stinks.  Got a room in our house where I'll isolate myself from the wife and the rest of the family and HOPE I don't have it, and that if I do staying in that room will be enough to keep them safe.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to laronius in Heavenly Parents   
    @brotherofJared I wish I had more time to respond because you said a lot but I will hut a few if the bigger points.
    1. You changed my question about why can't we do what God does to why can't we do what God did? And those are not the same questions. We also will not do all that Jesus did and yet the promise is if we are faithful we will be joint heirs with him and receive ALL that the father hath.
    2. Concerning your remarks as to how spirit beings are shall we say "begotten" there is no official church doctrine. Anyone who has addressed the topic is expressing opinion only. The only certain thing that has been revealed officially is that we are the sons and daughters of God, a truth that can only be learned for certain from the Holy Ghost. Any extrapolation beyond that is only speculation and I say feel free to question that speculation as much as you want.  How exactly that happened we don't know. Though in your reasoning you state God is flesh but that doesn't mean He lost His spirit. It's still there. 
    I wish I had time to address what I think is your core concern of exactly how like God we can become but I will be out of town for a couple days. Maybe I will pick this back up then if others haven't addressed it already. But I will say that hopefully at the end of the day you will put reasoning aside to gain a witness of the Spirit because ultimately that's the only way to know for sure.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to maklelan in 'Despite All We Can Do' – 2 Nephi 25:23 in Literary and Rhetorical Context   
    My Journal of Book of Mormon Studies article, "2 Nephi 25:23 in Literary and Rhetorical Context," is now digitally available on JSTOR:     https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.5406/jbookmormstud2.29.2020.0001     My paper demonstrates that "after all we can do" was a phrase commonly used by English-language writers discussing grace in the late-eighteenth and early-nineteenth centuries, and it always and only meant "despite all we can do."   If you don't have access, message me and I'll be happy to send you a PDF.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Traveler in Conference October 3-4, 2020   
    I think you need to be more aware.  One lesson of life is that it is almost impossible to find something when you are not looking for it.  I have a friend that is what is called a minority.  He married a Stake President's daughter and the concerns that should not have been were obvious.   I would like to say I have no pre-existing judgments but I do.  I have religious prejudices - though I have @prisonchaplain to thank for helping me to overcome feelings concerning Evangelicals - I still have a way to go.   
    I have been asked many times how I can believe in G-d and evolution.  But the sad part is that I am as likely to be as prejudice towards someone asking such a question than perhaps they are concerning me.
    Why do I bring up other forms of prejudice other than racisms?  Because scientifically there is only one human race.  Whatever prejudice there is - it is the same.   Sometimes racism is seen when it is not intended.  For example, I grew up in a society (town) where there was not a single black family or even an individual.  I had never talked to a black person until I was in the army.  In addition I have never lived anywhere that cotton was grown.  However, from my youth there was a term that was used to describe things that do not work as planned or are inferior.  The term is "cotton picking".  This is a term I grew up using rather than cursing.   I used it recently while helping a neighbor that began laughing at me.  His point was that in today society it is worse than swearing.  
    Being sensitive to other's feeling is a great failing of mine.  My wife is often reminding me of my rudeness.  Just because I am not aware or not intending to be rude does not mean that it not so.  Sometime the worse part about being rude is when we are so insensitive, unware and uncaring that we are rude (or dare I say raciest) without a clue what we are doing.
     
    The Traveler
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Still_Small_Voice in Pastor with Prophetic Vision   
    I keep thinking about what President Nelson said in April 2019:
    “ As President of His Church, I plead with you who have distanced yourselves from the Church and with you who have not yet really sought to know that the Savior’s Church has been restored. Do the spiritual work to find out for yourselves, and please do it now. Time is running out .”
    I have been getting promptings from the Holy Spirit that some judgments and violence are going to come upon us in the United States.  I do not know when.
    From what I have heard there are some violent uprisings being wickedly planned for the November 2020 elections.  Get your own revelations from the LORD on what you need to do to prepare.  I think Saints and neighbors are going to need to lean on each other for support in days ahead.
    And I hope I am wrong in my timeline predictions.  I hate violence and chaos and do not want to see it.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to estradling75 in What happened to MormonGator?   
    The polarization that we see the country has undergone is being felt here.  This forum is for the Church of Christ's restored Gospel.  And all are welcome here as long as respect that.
    A large part of the Church membership (or at least the membership represented here) tends to have the same political leanings.  This leads those that feel differently to feel like they are second class citizens.  It does not help that we are all flawed and are not as Christ-like as we should be.
     
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    JohnsonJones reacted to mirkwood in Presidential Debate - Tomorrow   
    mirky gets to work 12 hour shifts tomorrow and Wednesday because of the VP debate.  Tuesday is going to really suck cos I have to work my part time job too.  That means 0600-2030 I will be working.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Just_A_Guy in Presidential Debate - Tomorrow   
    Apparently, I’m not the only one who was thinking along these lines.  The GOP tried being decent to Biden.  It didn’t work.
    Also:  Ari Fleischer made an interesting point—it sounded unbelievable, but then I went back and watched the (first part of the) debate again and, lo and behold, he was right: The first seven minutes of the debate were pretty conventional and interruption-free.  Then, on Trump’s second or third answer, Biden interrupted him no fewer than three different times.  And that’s when Trump turned on the nasty.
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    JohnsonJones got a reaction from Lindy in Movies you like that no one else does   
    Yes it is.  It's another one we have in our collection (many disney films in our videos).
     
    From Left to Right that is Fflewder, Eilonwy, Gurgi, and Taran...and of course...Hen Wen.
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    JohnsonJones got a reaction from Midwest LDS in Presidential Debate - Tomorrow   
    It sounded like an all out brawl (well, speaking brawl) with a full on argument going between two people who came to argue rather than discuss.
    It wasn't a debate, it was basically them yelling at each other.  I found it rather absurd.  I was listening to it via the radio and there were times that I couldn't tell who was talking, Trump or Biden.  Both were so argumentative that they sort of meshed together when you couldn't see which one was actually doing the talking.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to laronius in Virtual Sacrament Meeting   
    It's an app available on Google Play and probably iphone too intended to be used for non-interactive meetings like sacrament meeting. It was in a Church letter last week.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Just_A_Guy in The gift of Aaron   
    From Joseph Smith:  Rough Stone Rolling by Richard Bushman:
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    JohnsonJones reacted to laronius in The gift of Aaron   
    If someone is not argumentative or contentious in asking questions about our core doctrines I have no problem responding to them whoever they are. But if the question is about something obscure or on the fringe I am less inclined to respond in part because without a testimony of the more critical parts of the gospel this knowledge will generally do little good and also because there is a good chance I don't know the answer and don't really care to look it up because it's not critical to my testimony. Some of Jonah's questions have been the former and others such as this are the latter. I will choose which to respond to and ignore the rest. It's as simple as that.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Still_Small_Voice in Presidential Debate - Tomorrow   
    The debate moderator should have had a microphone kill switch.  There were parts of the debate where they were just talking over each other.  It happened far too much in the debate in my opinion.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Traveler in Stopping COVID   
    I was traveling between the USA and Taiwan for work during the SARS outbreak.  I never wore a mask and may have been the only one in the country without a mask (admitted sarcasm).  There was no mask mandate and I was never refused service and no one showed any concern that I did not wear a mask.  Obviously, I was recognized as American because I could not speak but a few words in Chinese. 
    So what has Taiwan done to avoid COVID?  As near as I can determine, since I have not traveled to Taiwan during the pandemic, is that they started immediately checking temperatures of everyone in public.   Even most of those that are COVID asymptomatic will have a slightly higher than normal temperature.  (there is some dispute regarding if someone without a fever will infect others.  Using Taiwan as an example - it would appear not)   For flights coming into Taiwan all on the plane are isolated until everyone has had their temperature taken.  If anyone is above normal then everyone is tested for COVID or required to quarantine for 2 weeks.  (quarantine is required when testing is unavailable).   This method of taking temperature and isolating for testing or quarantining them and anyone they have been with has been the method.
    If you do some fact checking you will discover that close to 90% of those with COVID will have a fever which is 100.4 or above.  But it is my understanding that anything over 99.5 is flagged.  There are several things that can cause a higher than normal temperature - such as being in the hot sun or heavy exercise.  If that is the case then a person can rest for 5 minutes in a cool place and drink water and their temperature will fall - unless they have a condition.
    Here is a thought - we do not need to wear a mask and we do not need to quarantine if we regularly take our temperature (daily).  But in the USA most individuals are too (dare I say stupid) to take care of themselves and those that they associate with (thinking they are the great exception) and therefore, require a mandate.  So the next step would be to cheek everyone's temperature in public.  Anyone can keep their business open by checking everyone's temperature before being allowed to do business - even gas stations could check all occupants of all cars before they are allowed to the pumps.  The same with entering any buildings or public places - like parks.  It has worked in Taiwan.  Contrary to much public opinion - what works is science, even if it cannot be explained or is politically acceptable. 
     
    The Traveler
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    JohnsonJones got a reaction from Jane_Doe in Who has gone back to church at the building?   
    It's a tough thing as a parent to see it. 
    For myself, I deal with being high risk but also risking getting the virus daily via the university.  It's a wierd mix there where we have many of the students that have chosen to take classes via an online university program this year (which I also have to utilize in trying to educate students in that fashion for our department) while at the same time having a few on campus as well.
    In that way, I figure I am already exposed somewhat, though I'd feel a LOT more comfortable (at least while weather has still been nice) if they would be doing meetings outside rather than inside (they have singing, which was shown as a key way to spread the virus).  We've had an uptick of cases in our area recently as well.
    I hope I do not get it.  I wear a mask, I try to social distance (and there are many at the ward that want to shake hands and such), but it is a personal risk.  Thus far, (as I said, I hope and pray I do not get it, we have had at least one ward member that possibly got it at church as it was the only place they were going...die recently from Covid) I have been blessed and hope to stay that way, but it is MY choice to do so.  My ward also has other options (thus far) if I choose to take them at a later time (for example, think it is too risky to go to the ward meetings with the spike in Covid cases)...but it is MY choice currently.  One that I am grateful is available and that I am allowed to make.
    However, as a Father, I have other feelings.  I understand my daughter's reasons for wanting to avoid going to church currently.  As a parent, I want to go off to Utah and wring her Bishop's neck (not very Christlike of me, which is a sin).  NO ONE should have that type of power and the ability to hurt others in such a way as I understand it (at least as it was portrayed by my daughter, but I will admit that is a one sided view as I have only heard her and her husband's side of the story).
    I know our ward still has zoom for their meetings for those who choose not to attend, and have extended the invitation that they can view our zoom meetings if they wish (I'm not sure on the legality in the church on that, though I know anyone can go to any meeting, they technically are not in our ward or ward boundaries...and thus the Bishop could not authorize them to take the sacrament currently).  I'm not sure how or if that will help.  She was incredibly frustrated.  As a parent, I feel...so helpless.
    If anything, I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY hope and pray that the prophet will help those in her situation.  As a parent, I feel very unchristlike towards her ward leadership (mine is great thus far) the more I think about it, but I know that's not the proper way to think or do things.  However, without some greater authority to help my daughter and people in her situation right now, I don't know where help will come or what can be done.  As I said, nothing stinks so much as being a parent and seeing your child in a situation which you can't help and feeling absolutely helpless.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Traveler in The Plan of Salvation - the Fall   
    I will take a different view - Lets begin with the initial statement - "The Plan of Salvation".  Why would it be called G-d's "Plan of Salvation"?  Anciently the word Salvation comes from the same root as "Salvage".    The very word "Salvage" has two parts.  The first part implies a state of ruin - the second part implies a "gathering" of what is of value or worth from that which is ruined and no longer of any value or worth.  
    If we consider the initial description of G-d's purpose (creation) in Genesis:
    Rather than go into multiple pages describing G-d's Plan of Salvation as introduced in Genesis - let us look at just the symbiology concerning Salvation of the Salvage planned by G-d.  The symbolism here is that light is good and darkness is not good but something different.  Shall we call it evil?  Note that G-d did not create darkness (evil).  He created Light.  But his plan all along was to divide the light from the darkness and salvage the light.
    If we follow the plan of G-d we will learn that his plan will conclude with what is called "The final Judgment".  This is the completion of dividing the light from the darkness.  
    This is not rocket science - it is not without logic.  It is very simple.  In order for there to be "Salvation" for the greatest creation of G-d, would have to be separated from evil.  The only way for G-d's creation to come into contact with evil was if there was a fall.  Without a fall there could be no salvation. (dividing light from darkness).
     
    The Traveler
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    JohnsonJones reacted to laronius in The Plan of Salvation - the Fall   
    The plural part is referring to commandments of which there are many. But we only have to break one of them once to become unworthy to live in God's presence.
    From the moment of their creation Adam and Eve always had the ability to act according to their own will and pleasure. Agency has always been a key element of God's plan for His children.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Scott in The Law of Consecration and Stewardship   
    Historical accuracy only.  Someone made this comment: 
    You may recall Mark Hoffman sold some false documents to some church leaders - they all used their own money and not church funds.
    Of course this is all on Mark Hoffman and isn't a reflection of our Church.  The Church did nothing wrong.
    Anyway, it does have nothing to do with the topic of this thread though.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to Vort in The Law of Consecration and Stewardship   
    Who cares whether or not "Church funds"/"tithing funds" were used to purchase Hofmann's fraudulent manuscripts (my understanding is that they definitely were)? Why is it even a relevant consideration? The Church is the Lord's. Church funds (or tithing funds) belong to God. He has directed how they are to be used and who has stewardship to oversee that usage. Whether they were used to pay for operating expenses, temple construction, fraudulent manuscripts, or three million bottles of Pepto Bismol is not relevant to anything that I can see. It is not my (or your) job to follow up on appropriate usage of so-called tithing funds. This is not like taxes, where we ARE the government and taxes ARE our funds. Not so with tithing.
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    JohnsonJones reacted to laronius in The Law of Consecration and Stewardship   
    I really like the BY quote you shared as it reinforced a thought I've had for a while. First of all, living the law of consecration should not be viewed as some commandment that we have to keep in order to establish Zion. Rather the law we need to focus on is loving our neighbors as ourselves. When we do this the spirit of the law of consecration is already present and the letter of the law merely provides a framework in how we can act in an orderly manner upon those desires.
    But the law of consecration goes beyond simply being an economic tool for a Zion society. Inherent in the law is the recognition of the need to better ourselves and others so that we have more to consecrate. The more we know and the more skills we develop the more we have to offer. In the eternities being able to provide for ourselves temporally is no longer an issue but the striving for being better and helping others become better is the part of the law of consecration that endures.