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    person0 got a reaction from NightSG in Brigham Young statue vandalized   
    I think they should all stay up, but with an addition; place a placard detailing the positive reasons for why the statue was erected and also the negative or controversial actions or characteristics of the individual.  Regardless, I am okay with cities voting to replace or remove statues, but I'm not okay with vandals tearing them down.
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    person0 got a reaction from Anddenex in Hydroxychloroquine touting doctor says she has been fired after appearing in viral video   
    The website is back up:  https://americasfrontlinedoctorsummit.com
    Interesting quote from the references page:
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    person0 reacted to NeuroTypical in Salt Lake Temple Capstone Opened   
    Sounds like your standard failed High Priest's service project.   (Sorry, I know I'm several years late with this joke, but for the Elders among us with a sense of history, it should still produce a chuckle. )
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    person0 reacted to Emmanuel Goldstein in Stopping COVID   
    That is what they are finding in Sweden. I think it will magically disappear after the election, but only if Biden wins. If Trump wins, which is likely, then it will only get worse and we will see Tens of Billions of death.
     
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    I can't speak for anyone else, but I follow the Prophet.  I hope nothing I've posted suggests otherwise.  Even though our Stake said it is requested, not required, that we wear masks to Church, I'd wear one.  My personal thoughts on the topic, while contrary, are irrelevant.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    They like to ignore that.  It kills the "wear a mask even if you don't have the virus" argument.
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    person0 got a reaction from Grunt in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    Did I not link to a scientific research study that suggests that isn't actually happening?  I also linked to a different one yesterday that showed the same thing.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    Bingo.   If I don't have the virus, why am I forced to wear a mask?
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    person0 got a reaction from Grunt in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    Cloth masks have been proven to have a 97% inbound penetration rate.  Outbound for some reason is better, but the truth is that masks are only useful if a wearer actually has symptoms.
    Here is a recent study proving this:  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2
    Even if we were to agree that masks work as we expect, and even if we were to ignore the encroachment upon our individual liberty, asymptomatic people are not spreading this virus like was originally thought!
    It all made sense at first, but now that we have this data, there is no justifiable reason to implement mandatory mask wearing.  We let individuals and businesses choose for themselves what risks they will and won't take.  We should still encourage people to wear a mask where it makes sense to do so, especially if they are showing any symptoms, but then we let everyone else decide what they will or won't do.  It should be that simple.
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    person0 reacted to anatess2 in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    And this is EXACTLY WHY people should not cede power to government.
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    person0 reacted to Jane_Doe in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    I'm not a fan of blanket you-must-wear-a-mask-everywhere-ordinances, because that's NOT using my agency to protect people.  There are times that wearing a mask doesn't help anyone, and instead just makes things super hot and limits communication.  Trying to enforce something that doesn't make sense is picking the wrong battle.  
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    person0 reacted to NeedleinA in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
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    Just checking the trigger level of the thread thus far.
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    person0 got a reaction from carlimac in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    Your friend is wrong.  Private businesses absolutely have the right to mandate the use of masks.  Individuals like your friend are acting wrongfully.  Advocating for individual liberty and being obedient to the requests of a private organization are not mutually exclusive.  The statement he is making is that it is okay to ignore the rules of a private organization (which it isn't).  Individuals do not have the right to impose their beliefs on a private entity.  People like your friend lessen the efforts of those who respect private businesses and also advocate for individual liberty, and against government mandates.
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    person0 got a reaction from carlimac in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    Your friend is wrong.  Private businesses absolutely have the right to mandate the use of masks.  Individuals like your friend are acting wrongfully.  Advocating for individual liberty and being obedient to the requests of a private organization are not mutually exclusive.  The statement he is making is that it is okay to ignore the rules of a private organization (which it isn't).  Individuals do not have the right to impose their beliefs on a private entity.  People like your friend lessen the efforts of those who respect private businesses and also advocate for individual liberty, and against government mandates.
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    person0 got a reaction from dprh in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    Okay, well the death rate of the flu in any given year is expected to be up to 2.3% of all death's.  Death's from random accidents is around 6 to 7 percent each year.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    It is that simple.
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    person0 reacted to Jane_Doe in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    The disagreement with masks isn't:
    - Disagreeing with your right to wear a mask wherever you want.  That's obviously your right.
    - Disagreeing with your right to request that people on your property/business wear a mask wherever you want.  That's obviously your right.
     
    There is disagreement on:
    -Whether you can dictate that I wear a mask in the privacy of my own backyard.  Or at a park.  Or other communal places where my say matters too. 
    - And how do we best treat each other with respect, even when views on this topic vary.  
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    If local leaders require people to wear masks, they should wear masks; if local leaders do not require people to wear masks, you do not have the right to expect other people will wear them; you are, however, free to exercise your freedom of speech and politely ask them if they will oblige.
    Yeah, but how much risk is key; technically everyone is at risk of being struck by lightning, too.  Those between the ages of 0-69 have a combined average risk of 0.08% (I know because I actually downloaded the CDC data and did the math myself).  Broken down, those between age 60-69 have a risk of about 4.6%, those between 50-59 only about 1.8%; the highest risk is for those 70 and above.  By the way, that is IF you catch the virus in the first place.

    Here is a nice little info-graphic I made last week.  Be sure to understand it, the data is about IF you die this year; I took the real data of COVID-19 death's and total deaths of all kinds to formulate this information.  The data is based on the expectation that this year the US is on track to have  ~ 2,649,916 total death's of all kinds (interestingly that is substantially reduced from the pre COVID-19 projection of ~2,939,303 expected deaths.  Anyway, here you go:


    It really is that simple.
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    person0 reacted to Plein Air in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    My choice as to whether I want to attend church, regardless of my risk factor, should not be impacted by those who refuse to wear a mask contrary to the request of priesthood leaders.
    Despite the directive about high risk people staying home if they choose to, which I believe was inspired, the negative message is still there. Technically everyone is at risk.  Let me rephrase them a bit. 
    "My selfish desire to not wear a mask at church is more important than your desire (as a normal risk member) to attend church."
    or 
    "If you as a normal risk individual want to attend church but are concerned about members like me not wearing masks, stay home!"
    It is wrong either way. 
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    person0 reacted to NeedleinA in Push for Utah to mandate statewide mask wearing   
    What kind of message are high-risk people sending by voluntarily placing themselves in potential danger by attending Church right now?
    If they are that high-risk, then stay home. Don't place yourself in that high degree of potential danger if you are worried about it. In our area, Phase 1 Guidelines state:
    Stay at home and keep doing "Come Follow Me".
     
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    person0 reacted to laronius in .   
    I think there is another relevant question we can derive from yours and that is: Can a person be committed to such standards without a testimony? Perhaps not a testimony of the Church but of the principles themselves? I think that people can gain a conviction of these things under the influence of the light of Christ and I think that would fall under the definition of testimony. But to bring this back around, if we are judged according to what we know I think these individuals will fare better then the uncommitted who have a testimony of the Church.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in .   
    What are your thoughts on people that lack testimonies but have the commitment to live up to the Church's standards?
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    person0 reacted to Carborendum in .   
    Merry Christmas... to... you...
    Oh, wait...
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    person0 reacted to pam in LDS Church donates to Utah Pride Center   
    SALT LAKE CITY — The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has donated to the Utah Pride Center's efforts to provide breakfasts for homeless youths, the center announced Wednesday.

    Church officials notified the Utah Pride Center of the donation in a recent grant letter, said Kent Frogley, chairman of the center's board of directors. The Salt Lake-based nonprofit agency serves breakfast every Saturday when the weather gets cold, Frogley said.

     

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865631810/LDS-Church-donates-to-Utah-Pride-Centers-efforts-to-feed-homeless-youths.html?pg=all

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    person0 got a reaction from SilentOne in Brigham Young statue vandalized   
    Sadly, true.
    I like this idea very much.  It is certainly an improvement to the desecration and destruction happening now.  Regardless, I doubt it would be well received by the radicals.