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    person0 reacted to Vort in Pres. Oaks: Racism and Other Challenges. . . Um. . .   
    President Oaks is a lawyer, and many of his pronouncements are best understood through that lens. In saying what he did, President Oaks was not promoting those positions as worthy. He was merely stating that such subjects were (as he said) appropriate for addressing in a manner of advocacy. Other examples of advocacy-appropriate topics might include universal basic income, nationalized health care, and shale oil production. You don't have to be for or against any of those topics to recognize that they are "appropriate subjects for advocacy."
    Please note that no Apostle has made a public statement affirming that George Floyd was killed for reasons of race. (Unless one slipped by me, which I'm quite sure didn't happen, or we all would have heard about it incessantly.) They kept things rather generic—"recent events of racism"—without naming anything specific. This may seem to play into the Social Justice Warrior theme of "black people are all persecuted", but viewed as pure statements of observation and sage advice, I think they hold up fine. Things usually need to be understood in context, but sometimes that context can provide unwarranted and perhaps even unintended subtexts. I think that's what's going on here.
    Same analysis as above. I would add that so-called systemic racism is almost certainly a real thing. The two important questions are: To what degree? Ang against whom? I would suggest that the answer to the first question is, "Not to as great a degree as the SJWs scream," and to the second question, "Historically against minorities, especially blacks, but in the last decade or so consciously targeted specifically toward white people—and not merely culturally, but openly taught in universities and even attempted to be encoded into law."
    I guess I must be officially becoming An Old Guy, because I find that pretty funny,.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Question on "Faith Crisis"   
    See, I think this is an issue that those who challenge faith run into and I have difficulty understanding why.   We assume because it isn't a talk given every conference that the "Church" hasn't adopted it.  Elder Bednar addressed that very point this last General Conference in his talk.  President Ezra Taft Benson very directly counseled us "The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer."   He didn't say "choose what we follow" or "wait until everyone in the Church gives talks on something before following it."

     
    I'm ecstatic to have anyone worship with me.  The Lord's house is open to all.  I've shared a pew (well, row since our tiny ward still racks chairs after every Sacrament and sets them up the next week) with drunks, atheists, Buddhists, and many other people that don't believe what I believe.  I'm not sure why someone would think that I would feel differently.  

    That said, you have to be equally comfortable with the knowledge that if you utter things that run counter to what the Lord has revealed to us through His Prophets and Apostles, I'm going to call that out and cite the people He has chosen to speak through.  
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Question on "Faith Crisis"   
    -Elder Bruce R. McConkie
     
     
     
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    person0 reacted to Vort in The second coming is in March   
    It's hidden in plain sight in the Doctrine and Covenants, for those who know where to look. Section 1 contains the letter "m". Section 2 contains the letter "a". Section 3 contains the letter "r".
    But I've said too much already.
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    person0 reacted to Just_A_Guy in The second coming is in March   
    I frankly don’t believe that the scriptures were written with the level of deliberation/precision/stylistic consistency/linguistic consistency/narrative “tightness”, that would justify the sort of hyper-literalistic and hyper-legalistic approach that underlies the timelines most folks propose.
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    person0 reacted to NeedleinA in The second coming is in March   
    I know people in my own ward that fall into this camp with bated breath.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in The second coming is in March   
    I'm just trying to make it through today, my friend.  Just trying to make it through today.
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    person0 reacted to Anddenex in The second coming is in March   
    I am not familiar with this guy, but from my mission and since I have been home I have run into a couple of people who follow this line of thinking. That the scriptures reveal the time and date for Christ to come.

    I would still have to go though with Christ's words, the author and finisher of our faith. We have signs for sure that will give us when, if we are prepared (i.e. I only care about the two prophets in Jerusalem -- I will start my repentance then for three days and two/three nights ), the day really doesn't matter. We will be ready.
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    person0 got a reaction from Vort in HINDSIGHT: A Story of Faith and Family   
    Some members of this forum already know that between January 2015 - July 2019, my wife and I fostered and eventually came to adopt seven children.  My amazing wife, in addition to the never ending task of being a mother of seven, made time to dedicate herself to writing a book in order to share her side of our story with the world.  I am eternally grateful and proud of my awe-inspiring wife.  I love her and my children with all my heart.  Our story is nothing short of miraculous and we will ever be grateful for the trials and blessings God has placed in our path.

    Here is a link to the book, and a picture of my amazing family.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KZ23NKM

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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Sacrament Talk   
    That's why I'm amazed I was allowed to choose my own topic.  I am continuously drawn to two talks, both 40 years old.   I've tried to write on other things, but my heart keeps going back to those two talks.
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    person0 got a reaction from Anddenex in Sacrament Talk   
    Since the onset of COVID, I have developed a new technique that I am hoping may help me avoid future callings: being super opinionated on social media and calling people out for disregarding the teachings of the prophets.  😀
    Honestly, one of my favorite things that I heard Hugh Nibley do for one of his talks was he just put his voice to the words of Brigham Young:
    https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/hugh-nibley/exaltation-eternal-life-words-brigham-young/
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Sacrament Talk   
    It's 2020.  The year of odd occurrences.  If this wasn't a sign the second coming was on it's way, then nothing is.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in Sacrament Talk   
    You should be wishing THEM luck.  They've unleashed the beast.
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in Biden Corruption Emails   
    I was the same.  I didn't vote for him last time but this time I am!

    Also BREAKING: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in Biden Corruption Emails   
    I was the same.  I didn't vote for him last time but this time I am!

    Also BREAKING: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-china-email-source-verifies
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    person0 reacted to pam in Biden Corruption Emails   
    I didn't vote for Trump last time (didn't vote for Hillary either) but this year I am.  While I may not like his mannerisms or his cockiness, I have been impressed in the job he has done in office.  
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    person0 got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Biden Corruption Emails   
    I just watched Rudy Giuliani display Hunter Biden's actual laptop.  He also has Hunter's signature on the repair bill.  He has seen all the footage and described some of it.  It is in the first 10 minor so of this video.
     
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    person0 got a reaction from Vort in HINDSIGHT: A Story of Faith and Family   
    Some members of this forum already know that between January 2015 - July 2019, my wife and I fostered and eventually came to adopt seven children.  My amazing wife, in addition to the never ending task of being a mother of seven, made time to dedicate herself to writing a book in order to share her side of our story with the world.  I am eternally grateful and proud of my awe-inspiring wife.  I love her and my children with all my heart.  Our story is nothing short of miraculous and we will ever be grateful for the trials and blessings God has placed in our path.

    Here is a link to the book, and a picture of my amazing family.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KZ23NKM

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    person0 got a reaction from Vort in HINDSIGHT: A Story of Faith and Family   
    Some members of this forum already know that between January 2015 - July 2019, my wife and I fostered and eventually came to adopt seven children.  My amazing wife, in addition to the never ending task of being a mother of seven, made time to dedicate herself to writing a book in order to share her side of our story with the world.  I am eternally grateful and proud of my awe-inspiring wife.  I love her and my children with all my heart.  Our story is nothing short of miraculous and we will ever be grateful for the trials and blessings God has placed in our path.

    Here is a link to the book, and a picture of my amazing family.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KZ23NKM

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    person0 got a reaction from Vort in HINDSIGHT: A Story of Faith and Family   
    Some members of this forum already know that between January 2015 - July 2019, my wife and I fostered and eventually came to adopt seven children.  My amazing wife, in addition to the never ending task of being a mother of seven, made time to dedicate herself to writing a book in order to share her side of our story with the world.  I am eternally grateful and proud of my awe-inspiring wife.  I love her and my children with all my heart.  Our story is nothing short of miraculous and we will ever be grateful for the trials and blessings God has placed in our path.

    Here is a link to the book, and a picture of my amazing family.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KZ23NKM

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    person0 got a reaction from Vort in HINDSIGHT: A Story of Faith and Family   
    Some members of this forum already know that between January 2015 - July 2019, my wife and I fostered and eventually came to adopt seven children.  My amazing wife, in addition to the never ending task of being a mother of seven, made time to dedicate herself to writing a book in order to share her side of our story with the world.  I am eternally grateful and proud of my awe-inspiring wife.  I love her and my children with all my heart.  Our story is nothing short of miraculous and we will ever be grateful for the trials and blessings God has placed in our path.

    Here is a link to the book, and a picture of my amazing family.
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KZ23NKM

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    person0 reacted to Vort in Trump COVID19 positive   
    And unsurprisingly, Harris' "not putting up with being interrupted" occurred exactly when she was refusing to answer Pence's direct question about whether she would pack the court if elected. A lying piece of crap. Pence even called her out for her "non-answer", but the lying piece of crap just laughed, knowing that the moderator, the media, and the fawning partisan swooners the world over would never hold her to account.
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    person0 reacted to estradling75 in Conference October 3-4, 2020   
    It seems to me that Racism is simply tribalism in another form.  Humans are social creatures and we tend to be supportive of those we see as "Us" and hostile to those seen as "Other"
    While the definition of "Us" and "Other" can and has change our responses to it generally have not.
    The gospel teaches that we are all Child of God making everyone an "Us".  Yet we live in a world that is trying to make everyone an "Other"
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    person0 reacted to Traveler in Conference October 3-4, 2020   
    I can agree with most of what you have said - where I disagree is in your use of the term "systemic".  If we judge things on race alone and nothing else - discounting individuals, circumstances and all other things that could possibly apply - that is obviously racism.  The word and idea of "systemic" is exactly that.  It is the notion that race alone and only - and no other factor applies - is the very essence of racism.  To believe systemic racism, of necessity, makes the believer a racist. 
     
    The Traveler
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    person0 reacted to NeuroTypical in Conference October 3-4, 2020   
    Oh, just to clarify, I'm absolutely certain racism exists.  Both the kind to which Vort was referring, and the kind we automatically think about.  I'm buddies with a black cop who shares a zillion stories about both kinds he's experienced.  I've seen it in crappy youtube comment sections and on twitter.  And I'm sure it has happened around me, and I've been oblivious.
    Again - personally witnessed?  Perhaps 3 or 4 times in my life.