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    person0 got a reaction from Anddenex in President Nelson vaccinated   
    While I'm sure the vaccine is probably fine, we also should remember that President Nelson is in his late 90's, has lived a good, full life, and there is essentially no downside to him taking it.  If it kills him, members will know worldwide and reject it; if he appears completely unharmed, members will be less skeptical and will take it, likely to their advantage.  It is a win-win situation: either many members are guided away from an evil in the world (bad vaccine), or they are guided away from an evil within themselves (pride).  I wonder if he will take a photo op for the second dose?  🤔
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in President Nelson vaccinated   
    And that's been my entire point.   Odd that people appear to be writing it off.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in President Nelson vaccinated   
    Sure, BUT there are is a known risk of severe side effects from mRNA vaccines.   A search of VAERS shows there to be death and injury associated with the vaccine.  The Norwegian Health Ministry released a warning regarding it.    People have died as a result of being vaccinated.  
    It's sad to see people picking and choosing when "underlying conditions" matter and when they don't, depending on their bias.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in President Nelson vaccinated   
    It is resulting in death in some people of his age.  Odd that it isn't being reported.
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    person0 reacted to NeuroTypical in President Nelson vaccinated   
    Preposterous indeed.   The tens of thousands of people who signed up for phase I, II, and III trials in 2020 were the guinea pigs.  Actually, to be more accurate, the nonhuman animals it was initially tested on, before anything went to human trials, were the guinea pigs.  
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    person0 reacted to Backroads in President Nelson vaccinated   
    I for one appreciate him getting it and making a to-do of it. I have heard so many awful and blatant lies and intentional misinformation about vaccines, even members of the church considering them so spiritually evolved they condemn those who do vaccinate. I think it's good for the Prophet to stand up for truth even in something probably so worldly as a vaccine.
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    person0 reacted to mordorbund in I have been deceived   
    Ever since I've read Psalms I've felt that our hymnal is woefully lacking songs about raining vengeance on our enemies.
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    person0 reacted to JohnsonJones in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    You should read a book called Supreme Power by Ted Stewart, which is a very interesting commentary on the evolution of the Supreme Court.
    Supreme Power : 7 Pivotal Supreme Court Decisions that had a Major Impact on America
    One thing I see that has changed and dramatically altered how the Supreme Court works is not the Supreme Court basically has been enabled to write laws.
    A prime example...
    With the Gay Marriage laws that have come into effect, previously before it had this power, the Supreme Court could have ruled laws AGAINST Gay Marriage as Unconstitutional, but it could not have mandated laws to be made to equalize them.  Thus, there would be a vacuum until such laws were made in accordance to recognize Gay Marriage on the same footing as Traditional Marriages.  Instead, the laws were conformed immediately to take into effect the Gay Marriage as the same exact thing in a legal sense (which is writing new laws) as other Marriages.  In my thoughts...of course.
    Traditionally, when originally created, the Supreme Court had the ability to rule things unconstitutional and mandates in accordance, but not necessarily the ability to actually write and create laws without the approval of Congress being involved with the process...once again...in my feelings on the matter.
    Ironically, even Judicial Review, which we take for granted today, was not inherently felt to be given until over a decade after the Constitution was written, but this review has expanded today into what we see where not only can it strike down, it can also mandate laws put in place to enforce such things (for example, striking down a school districts regulations and ordering it to pay fines in order and to create new organizations...thus by ordering new organizations to be made to create equality, also dictating new laws in order to mandate such actions to occur).
    Because of this, those who wish to force the creation of new laws which otherwise cannot be passed via the traditional means either by vote or through Congressional legality, have pushed for more Judicial activism regarding the Federal Courts all the up to the Supreme Court.
    How far this could go is questionable, but with more extremes placed upon it, one could see that this may result in a Crisis in the future.
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    Unless the Supreme Court has failed the Constitution and thus it is hanging by a thread.  🤔
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    person0 reacted to Anddenex in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    This is the circumstance in Georgia where the individuals watching the votes received and being counted were told to go home and counting was done. When the people left, these individuals pulled out suitcases of ballots that were hidden under tables. They began counting these votes when everyone was gone. In one video of this, it appears one of these individuals are running the ballots multiple times. So, yes, corruption without consequence.
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    person0 reacted to Grunt in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    I think patriots need to ask themselves if they are doing all they can.  Are they educating themselves?  Are they sharing that education?  Are they participating in local government or grass roots organizations designed to educate and lobby?
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    person0 reacted to Colirio in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    Despite how wonderful and inspired it is, the US Constitution is the means to an end, not the end itself. 
     
    The ultimate end goal of mortality is to be exalted in the Celestial Kingdom. Our ultimate priesthood duty is to get everyone else there, too. 
     
    The Jaredites fell to wickedness. The Nephites and Lamanites fell to wickedness. Likewise, most of us are familiar with Moroni’s warning of secret combinations. But another warning that he offers is:
     
    Ether 2:9 And now, we can behold the decrees of God concerning this land, that it is a land of promise; and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall serve God, or they shall be swept off when the fulness of his wrath shall come upon them. And the fulness of his wrath cometh upon them when they are ripened in iniquity.

    10 For behold, this is a land which is choice above all other lands; wherefore he that doth possess it shall serve God or shall be swept off; for it is the everlasting decree of God. And it is not until the fulness of iniquity among the children of the land, that they are swept off.

    11 And this cometh unto you, O ye Gentiles, that ye may know the decrees of God—that ye may repent, and not continue in your iniquities until the fulness come, that ye may not bring down the fulness of the wrath of God upon you as the inhabitants of the land have hitherto done.

    12 Behold, this is a choice land, and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall be free from bondage, and from captivity, and from all other nations under heaven, if they will but serve the God of the land, who is Jesus Christ, who hath been manifested by the things which we have written.
     
    So, if you are asking what can be done to save our people and our liberty in this country, my answer is that we trust in God and keep His commandments. Likewise, we encourage everyone else to trust in God and keep His commandments. The further we stray from Him, the closer we are to being swept off. If we trust Him and keep His commandments, the promise is that we will prosper in the land. 
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    person0 reacted to gclayjr in What should we do to "Save the Constitution" that is definitely hanging by a thread?   
    I am 69 years old, and over the years as things have happened to hurt our freedoms, I have wondered if we are living through when the Constitution would "hang by a thread" . I have always wondered what we as members of the church or Priesthood holders we should do to "save" the constitution when it does "hang by a thread"?
    With this obviously corrupt election and the fact that while many brave Americans have come forward to demonstrate this,  nobody in charge is even willing to let the evidence be heard. I am also aware that there are many good Christians who have been praying to God to help save this country from a corrupt theft of our rights and to save the Constitution. With the recent rejection by the Supreme Court of the Texas case, virtually all visible paths to even giving a fair hearing to the evidence seems to have disappeared.
    I don't see any "normal" path out of this. It is not that important whether BIden or Trump becomes president. What is important is whether our election system becomes so corrupt that the people can never vote out the corrupt or vote in someone who is reasonably honest and believes in letting people live a Christian life.
    We have often been counselled to be loving and peaceful. and the 12th Article of faith indicates that we should submit even to corrupt evil totalitarian governments. So if my premise is  correct,  what is it that we as true believers in Jesus Christ, his restored Gospel, and the Constitution supposed to do to Save it?
    I have never been able to find anything other than to stand for the truth and proclaim it. But I don't see how it applies here.
    I have a true testimony of Jesus Christ and his restored Church, and know that in the end he will deliver us from evil. That doesn't mean that we may not have to live under oppression for awhile, like the people of Alma did, or the Citizens of Venezuela have been doing for over 20 years. I will willingly, if not necessarily joyfully,  submit to God's will. 
    However what is that? What are our duties as members of the Church to help "Save the Constitution"?
     
    I would love some insight into this.
    Thank you,
     
    George Clay
     
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in The election   
    Everything that is happening now has happened before!
    https://history.house.gov/Institution/Origins-Development/Electoral-College/

    Is it wrong of me to hope we have 1877 all over again?
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    person0 reacted to Traveler in The election   
    Just to be clear about voter fraud.  This is an integral element of the Washington Swamp and has been going on since my youth when I left the Republican party because of it (even in a Utah precinct that was 90% LDS at the time).    It will never happen but the following is a must to stop voter fraud.
    #1. Validate all voters are registered voters that reside within whatever precinct.  The only way I know to accomplish this is to require all voters pre-register with a cutoff date with enough time for validation for each election with valid photo ID.  This would mean that "homeless" or individuals that do not reside at a known and valid residential location; cannot vote.   This may seem unconstitutional but it is a loop hole that must be closed or it is a back door for voter fraud. 
    #2. Validate all votes come from a valid registered voter.  To be done this has to be linked to registration data.   If there is not a unique match to data - the vote would have to be thrown out.
    #3. All ballets must be received to the precinct before any or a single vote is counted.  Once voting is started - no additional ballets can be received and included in the counting. 
    #4. All of the above steps must be completely transparent - I would suggest this includes electronic (including videos) data and surveillance that can be reviewed for at least 12 years.  
     
    I would remind this forum that by law ballets in the USA are secret.  This means there is no way or means to track individual ballets once received.  This means that if there is fraud after the fact - there is no way to know among the many ballets which are the invalid ballets.  The only possible resolution is to require a revote - not a recount.  
     
    The Traveler
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    person0 got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in The election   
    Yes, you are correct, and that is why I specifically only pinpointed states that do not have laws or a legal mechanism in place to punish or nullify a faithless elector.  See for yourself:
    https://www.fairvote.org/faithless_elector_state_laws
    Yes!  And we had 4 successful Faithless Electors in 2016, and three that were replaced.
    Nope, I meant immense. (fixed)
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    person0 reacted to Godless in The election   
    These talking points sounds very similar to the things Dems were saying in 2016.
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in The election   
    Faithless Electors' votes in WI, PA, and GA are counted as cast, meaning there is no penalty if they do not vote for the candidate selected by their state's popular vote. All three states have a Republican majority in both their House and Senate. In theory, regardless of the outcome of each state's popular vote, electors in these states could be chosen specifically to vote to elect Donald Trump, or to abstain from voting for Biden which would force the election into Congress. In Congress the House gets one vote per state for President and the Senate gets one vote per state for vice president. Despite the House having more Democrat representatives, Republicans represent more states. Hence, a Republican President would be elected, an likely a vice president also. Our constitutional republic was designed specifically to avoid the pitfalls of democracy. While the uproar would be immense, such an outcome would be completely legal, constitutional, and legitimate.  Despite that, it could be considered 'dishonest' if only for the fact that the majority of the American people are uneducated to the extent they do not understand this is how our republic was designed.

    This would be the most 2020 way to end the year. . . and get the next civil war started.  🤣
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in The election   
    Faithless Electors' votes in WI, PA, and GA are counted as cast, meaning there is no penalty if they do not vote for the candidate selected by their state's popular vote. All three states have a Republican majority in both their House and Senate. In theory, regardless of the outcome of each state's popular vote, electors in these states could be chosen specifically to vote to elect Donald Trump, or to abstain from voting for Biden which would force the election into Congress. In Congress the House gets one vote per state for President and the Senate gets one vote per state for vice president. Despite the House having more Democrat representatives, Republicans represent more states. Hence, a Republican President would be elected, an likely a vice president also. Our constitutional republic was designed specifically to avoid the pitfalls of democracy. While the uproar would be immense, such an outcome would be completely legal, constitutional, and legitimate.  Despite that, it could be considered 'dishonest' if only for the fact that the majority of the American people are uneducated to the extent they do not understand this is how our republic was designed.

    This would be the most 2020 way to end the year. . . and get the next civil war started.  🤣
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in The election   
    Faithless Electors' votes in WI, PA, and GA are counted as cast, meaning there is no penalty if they do not vote for the candidate selected by their state's popular vote. All three states have a Republican majority in both their House and Senate. In theory, regardless of the outcome of each state's popular vote, electors in these states could be chosen specifically to vote to elect Donald Trump, or to abstain from voting for Biden which would force the election into Congress. In Congress the House gets one vote per state for President and the Senate gets one vote per state for vice president. Despite the House having more Democrat representatives, Republicans represent more states. Hence, a Republican President would be elected, an likely a vice president also. Our constitutional republic was designed specifically to avoid the pitfalls of democracy. While the uproar would be immense, such an outcome would be completely legal, constitutional, and legitimate.  Despite that, it could be considered 'dishonest' if only for the fact that the majority of the American people are uneducated to the extent they do not understand this is how our republic was designed.

    This would be the most 2020 way to end the year. . . and get the next civil war started.  🤣
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    person0 reacted to Still_Small_Voice in The election   
    I dislike when people call our government a Democracy.  It is not.  We have a Constitutional Republic.  Democracy governments are short in their lives and violent in their deaths from what I have learned.
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in Pres. Oaks: Racism and Other Challenges. . . Um. . .   
    Despite the commonly held 'consensus', I am more than confident that conservative policies are far superior for the purposes of improving the lives of black Americans than are the policies in place and promoted by the left.
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in Pres. Oaks: Racism and Other Challenges. . . Um. . .   
    Despite the commonly held 'consensus', I am more than confident that conservative policies are far superior for the purposes of improving the lives of black Americans than are the policies in place and promoted by the left.
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    person0 reacted to NeuroTypical in Pres. Oaks: Racism and Other Challenges. . . Um. . .   
    Yeah, I had to respond to this too.
    The Right's answer to meaningful progress in black communities: "Keep government out of your way, so you can lift yourselves up."  
    The Left's answer to meaningful progress in black communities: "Elect us and we'll fix your ills via wealth transfer,  affirmative action, etc.  More government will fix your problems for you!"
    I know which solution I figure works better.  It's the solution that works better regardless of race/class/income/education/any demographic.
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    person0 got a reaction from NeedleinA in Pres. Oaks: Racism and Other Challenges. . . Um. . .   
    Despite the commonly held 'consensus', I am more than confident that conservative policies are far superior for the purposes of improving the lives of black Americans than are the policies in place and promoted by the left.