Grunt

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  1. I find it more problematic that people would be driven away from Christ because they can't have a beard. Don't drink alcohol? Too easy. No coffee or tea? Who cares. You have to shave every week? Sorry, Jesus.
  2. Politics is a weird battle arena. People tend to be very black and white in many areas that I personally believe are better accepted as gray. People also try to cram their personal beliefs into a politics package. Sometimes it's just OK to acknowledge the facts as we know them, accept that we may not have them all, and feel empathy for all involved. You can believe something is necessary while being sad that it is. You can fall on one side of a gray line while someone with very similar beliefs falls on the other.
  3. We still zoom our services for people in unique circumstances. We do not allow recording, nor do we stream Sacrament.
  4. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/eternal-marriage-student-manual/abortion?lang=eng
  5. Thank you. I'm familiar with most of these, and others, which ultimately led to my question. Murder is typically used as a legal term (ie: abortion is legal therefore not murder) but it also has spiritual connections. The Church has said there may be circumstances where it would not consider abortion serious enough to restrict membership. I just felt that "abortion is not murder" was a very broad statement that might imply things which are not necessarily true.
  6. Could you cite where you’re drawing “the Church says abortion is not murder” from? That’s a very broad statement. My take is more “there are extremely limited situations where it may be justified “. I don’t believe justified is the right word, I just can’t think of a better one.
  7. I've never really cared where "most folks" lie on most topics. I'm very comfortable with my "deal" and how it aligns with Heavenly Father's "deal".
  8. Wins what? Did I inadvertently sign up for a competition?
  9. From conception, without exception.
  10. I'll provide an example. A family moved into our ward for a brief period. They had one girl in YW that was a modern feminist. She wore excessive dark make up, short skirts, plunging necklines, used inappropriate language, and teetered on the line of anti-church talk. She was extremely friendly and all the girls liked her. Over time, a few of the other girls started to emulate her a little. She moved back out of the ward (they weren't here long) and things returned to normal. That girl has since gone full-blown anti. I'm not sure what the right answer is in a situation like that.
  11. I think it's a fine line, particularly with youth. The example you provide is extreme, I'm more concerned about the incremental corruption. I feel this is more of a concern for the youth in my area than it is for the adults.
  12. I could never own an EV. It just wouldn't work logistically.
  13. This has always been my response as well. I can't believe "I followed the Prophet" won't be a positive defense on judgement day.
  14. I was just having a similar conversation with my wife last week.
  15. I guess, but I don't feel a need to put a "but" when recognizing something good. They donate to Charity. That's awesome. I'm thankful they give back some of their profits to the community. Many people don't.
  16. Well, if you folks would start calling senators it could stop.
  17. Strictly as it relates to worship and ignoring the social/convenience impact: I think the shift has been great for some families. Studying in and Come Follow Me is great for the families that take advantage of it. I think the shift has been horrible for children who don't have parents that do home study and family scripture reading. I think the shift has zero affect on adults without children who do or don't study at home or listen to music during sacrament meetings.
  18. Has anyone seen anything official from the Church or is this all just crappy reporting. I don't know anything about this, but a quick search doesn't turn up anything official.
  19. I don't believe this is an either/or necessity.
  20. I didn't look at any of the accounts. Lately the issues we've been dealing with aren't the fake accounts, which are usually easier to spot, but the hijacked accounts. The hijacked accounts have longevity and real posting history. You often don't know they are fake until they start posting about duct work.
  21. I've had the awesome opportunity to meet a few people from the forum in person. I've never been disappointed.
  22. Again, it's not. There are two. Spoons don't have gender. Neither do ships. You're trying to make it tricky. You're trying to make it more complex than it is. It isn't.