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  1. clbent04

    The Purpose of Life: To Learn to Love

    It's the execution of The Plan of Salvation that brings us happiness. Work is an eternal principle. Love is work. It's through loving others that we experience the happiness God wants for us. So when we ask ourselves what's our primary objective on Earth, is it to be happy? Well that's a nice thought, but how do we get there? We achieve happiness by loving others. Happiness is the end result we want to achieve, but love is the action that makes it possible for us to get there. Learning to love is our primary objective in this life, not basking in our joy on a hammock for something we've already done. God wants us to always be active. Love is a verb. Joy is a noun. I agree with you that God's ultimate goal for us is happiness, but I see that differently as to what our primary objective is on Earth even though the two are correlated. One is actionable, the other is merely a state of being. It's more practical to say our primary objective on Earth is to learn to love.
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    The Purpose of Life: To Learn to Love

    Because we all are still infants learning how to crawl when it comes to developing love which is a prerequisite to embracing the greater joy God wants us to have.
  3. clbent04

    The Purpose of Life: To Learn to Love

    I would say the fight for agency goes in line with my belief that the primary objective in the life is to learn to love. Having agency is critical to the foundation for love to be possible. Love cannot be forced and must be freely given.
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    The Purpose of Life: To Learn to Love

    There's a correlation between love and joy. Taking what you quoted here, do you think Adam fell solely for his own joy? Or did Adam transgress for the benefit of all mankind? If for all mankind, he had to of been motivated not solely by joy, but also by love. God's formula is, the more love you have, the more selfless you are, and the more selfless you are, the more joy you receive because true joy is being in the service of God and saving souls. Back to the purpose of this life -- Can we save souls without having developed love? No. Can we experience joy without having first developed love? No. Does God want our primary focus in this life to be saving souls? Yes, but that's only possible if we develop ourselves into instruments that He can use. If the majority of us in this life are still learning how to love others outside our inner circles without expecting anything in return, ask yourself if the majority of us here on Earth are ready and actively saving souls, or if the majority of us are more largely involved in developing ourselves for that to be possible? The majority of us progress slowly in this life when it comes to developing love for others, maybe more so than we care to admit. Very few of us arrive to the level of someone like Paul or Ammon who dedicated their lives to loving others. Understand that what God wants for us in this life is different from how life actually is, and once you understand that, you can better assess which step we are on in our pursuit to obtain joy.
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    The Purpose of Life: To Learn to Love

    Ever since God organized us, His plan has always been to help us develop love. This is the primary objective and always has been. However long our mortal experience is or whatever else may be accomplished on Earth doesn't change that primary objective. Literally everything God has designed and commanded of us in the life is for the higher purpose of us developing love. The scriptures, the format of a husband/wife, having children, the gospel, work, life challenges, our health.... When examining the 10 commandments, each of the 10 commandments serve as a basic framework on how we can begin to develop love, from the obvious "thou shalt not kill" to "thou shalt not have strange Gods before me." God knows if we are to worship anyone or anything other than Him, it impedes our ability to develop love. Why? Because the very core of our souls is compelled to acknowledge that it is God and God alone that deserves our praise and worship. Any deviation to that is dishonest, and love requires truth to abound. To suggest the primary objective of this life is to obtain a mortal body is ignoring life as we know it to be.
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    The Purpose of Life: To Learn to Love

    However we experienced love in the pre-existence doesn't mean by any means that we mastered love ourselves. The only beings with mastery of love in the preexistence were God the Father and Jesus Christ. Do you really think we live here on Earth for an average of 70 years primarily just to check mark a box that says "Body obtained"? Obtaining a body is important, but it serves the purpose of enabling us to develop love, a process that has proven to take its time when it comes to the stubborn likes of us.
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    The Purpose of Life: To Learn to Love

    We were limited in our ability to love as premortal intelligences. We had never experienced physical pain and we could not fully process the concept of sacrifice to the extent God needs us to. We still have very little understanding in these matters, but with bodies we are progressing in the right direction.
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    @The Folk Prophet be like Brett Farve teasing everyone about retirement
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    Where is Carborendum?

    @Carborendum good to see you back
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    Less than the Dust of the Earth

    “What a piece of man is Carborendum”, said Mrs. Carborendum 😁
  11. My personal life experiences, observations and spiritual insights have led me to the realization of how miserable we are without God as a guiding influence for good. Without God’s influence, we are incapable of progressing. To hear that stated is one thing, but to internalize and see it as reality is another. We are selfish by nature. Our ability to progress beyond our selfish nature hangs in a delicate balance managed and made only possible by God. When it comes to progressing beyond what we are, we are fragile. Push us too much, and we will fall apart. Don’t push us enough, and we will remain incapable of loving others. How did we exist in the premortal life as “intelligences”? The noun would suggest we had intellectual capacity. Maybe we had ability to discern to some degree. But what we didn’t have was the ability to love or at least not to the extent made possible with a mortal, earthly experience. We did not care for our neighbors, we did not understand the importance of empathy, we were not our brother’s keeper, we did not sacrifice anything that wasn’t for our own benefit; we were incapable of understanding or even being motivated in that fashion. We were self-serving. That is our true nature absent of God. We give glory to God because despite us being miserably hopeless on our own, it was His wisdom and intervention that made possible our progression. He is our Eternal Anchor of Hope, our Heavenly North Star, and our only hope for rising above a state of nothingness; that is why we must or eventually be compelled to give glory to God, for anything we become beyond nothing is due to Him. For God to have organized us and created this vacuum where mankind has survived and thrived for as long as it has requires the greatest delicate touch beyond what we could imagine. Left to our own devices, we would have self-imploded and destroyed ourselves long ago. How do I know this? Because mankind has barely been able to survive this long even with God being as present as He is. Our self-sabotaging nature continues to spawn wars, murder, prostitution, sex trafficking, genocide, corruption, and abuse in all forms. These acts are evidence of our self-serving nature, a nature that even the most righteous among us is susceptible to. Our inherent nature of selfishness is just as alive today as it always has been even though the world’s landscape may appear to have changed over time. Selfishness is apparent on many levels even outside the common examples we would think of like theft or greed. Loving only those within your inner circles or those who provide some type of benefit in return for your love is selfish. Primarily focusing your life efforts on building a nest egg for solely you and your family is selfish if not shortsighted at best. Should we feel guilt for not being more advanced in our ability to love? I don’t think so. How developed we are in our ability to love is merely a snapshot of where we are on our individual journeys. Some may arrive to certain levels faster than others, but God didn’t design it to be a race; He designed it as a plan to give us all the best chance at developing love. It’s a monumental task for us to overcome our nature and learn to love, but we have to start somewhere. That is why God designed our learning in baby-step format. God created the format of life involving spouses and families as a step in the right direction for our advancement to learn to love others. Is it wrong to work hard to build a life for you and your family? No. But that alone isn’t the end goal of what God wants us to achieve. The goal is to learn to love, not just yourself, not just those within your inner circles, but to truly love all unconditionally as God loves us. That means putting others’ needs before your own including those who have no direct connection to you other than being a fellow child of God. Ever since Adam and Eve, God has been coaxing us along to learn to love. Through history we’ve seen how progress oftentimes takes multiple generations to build upon, just as chaos can trickle down and negatively affect multiple generations to come. How parents raise their children will influence that generation’s ability to love. How advanced should we become by the end of this life regarding our ability to love? As much as we can. The thing is, God never set a threshold because the purpose of this life never was perfection. The purpose of life is progress towards learning to love. God’s design of this life is what we need for the greatest chance of us succeeding in learning to love. God did not design our nature; He designed this life around our nature to provide us with the best platform possible for our success. If you think about how God designed the world for the benefit of our nature and development to learn to love, it extends itself to many insights of why this world is designed the way it is. For me, the family unit makes much more sense as to why it’s the exclusive unit it is instead of us attempting to love everyone equally. The exclusivity of the family unit concerned me before as it seemed selfish in principle as so many in this world are left unloved by a family of their own. I previously resented the clicks we form, but now I understand them to be necessary steppingstones for our progress in learning to love. We are far too infantile in our current state to attempt loving everyone equally. The fragility of our development of learning to love can also be related to our slow progression towards technological advancements. It’s taken thousands of years just for us to reach this digital age we now find ourselves in. Could the technology we see today have been achieved earlier? Absolutely. But we hindered and destroyed each other’s creations and progress due to our selfish nature. Had mankind not sought chaos and instead always embraced living in harmony with one another, we would be lightyears ahead of where we are today and basic problems like world hunger would not exist. But our nature is not harmonious. With the grace of God, we are swimming upstream trying to overcome our natural tendencies. May we trust in Him and His plan, and that what may seem like an insurmountable task ahead of us may seem possible to achieve with the hope He gives us, remembering that this life is nothing but baby steps in our progression of learning to love, that achieving perfection in this life never was the goal, and that God will guide us by the hand.
  12. clbent04

    The Purpose of Life: To Learn to Love

    I wouldn't say learning to love is our sole purpose, but it's the primary objective. Obtaining a body is a far distant second to learning to love in terms of what our purpose is here on Earth. The body is a vehicle that helps make the primary objective possible.
  13. Whether you’re religious, not religious, or kind of religious, I’m convinced this is the purpose of life for all: To learn to love. We start off in life, hopefully, with a good set of parents who give us their unconditional love as an example of how to love others. We progress to love those in our immediate circles be it family, friends, or someone you love for the love they share with you. We have kids of our own and love them as our parents loved us. And from there a few of us advance beyond to love those outside our inner circles who don’t provide us with anything in return other than the sense of joy that can come from service. Regardless of how advanced we are along the path of learning to love, whether we’re still crawling as an infant or at a light jog, we are all learning and hopefully increasing our ability to love step by step. Personally, I feel like I’m barely learning how to walk when it comes to loving others outside my inner circles without expecting anything in return. I have, however, been fortunate enough to cross paths with a few exceptional people in my life that exude love. These people I think of often and hold in high regard as examples I look up to. Being someone who believes in God, I believe our life experiences are designed to allow us to develop empathy for one another and help us advance from a state of self-interest to selflessness. And even if you don’t believe in God, you might agree life has a way of molding us in this regard if we allow it to. Why is mankind prone to limit its love to its own inner circles? We often reserve love for family and friends only, exclusive to our little empires. For one, all of us are in the process of learning to love, and no one in this life, besides Jesus Christ, has ever mastered love. We need to start with the inner circles we have as building blocks preparing us for further advancement. We need to start somewhere and hopefully someday be able to begin walking in the Savior’s footprints He left as an example to us, and embrace a higher way to love. To those who have set a lasting impression on me of this type of love in my own life, thank you for showing me it’s possible. It inspires me to do the same even in my own limited, finite ability. Love is connection we all seek and transcends any one specific culture, religion, or ideology. Mark 22:37-39 “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.” John 13:34-35 “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
  14. I'd say this sums up my main points: -In the premortal life, before God organized us, we existed in a state of chaos. We were limited in our capacity to overcome the chaos -In the premortal life, we gravitated towards those among us who had similar charges or behaviors and tendencies -All unique lifeforms and species pertain to a specific energy class -The energy class that humans pertain to is the only class that is able to defy nature -Before being organized, God was able to identify our energy by our unnatural behavior -"Good" and "evil" have been elusive terms to me in relation to how they apply to the laws of the universe. Replacing these terms with order and chaos makes it more tangible for me to comprehend -This universe is not stationary. It is moving, flexing and bending to the laws of the universe, and the universe is but a speck of dust in the midst of infinity -While Jesus Christ lived a perfect life and died for our sins thus overcoming death, the Atonement did not remove the necessity of sacrifice. Sacrifice will continue to be necessary for God's plan to function. When I say this universe can be likened unto a single atom moving through infinity, sacrifice and work is the fuel that keeps it going. Sacrifice plays a key part in satisfying the laws of the universe
  15. How would we come from nothing? We exist and therefore we are.