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    BJ64 got a reaction from unixknight in Garments   
    It has been my experience that any church related dream does not go well. 
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    BJ64 got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in Garments   
    It has been my experience that any church related dream does not go well. 
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    BJ64 got a reaction from wenglund in April 2019 Conference Predictions   
    Of course it does. 
    Harold B. Lee said;
    “How do we measure whether or not one’s teachings are true or false? If anyone teaches beyond what the scriptures teach, we may put it down as speculation except one man who has the right to bring forth any new doctrine—that is the one man who holds the keys—the prophet, seer, and revelator who presides in that high place. And no one else. If anyone presumes to bring forth what he claims to be new doctrine you may know that it is purely his own opinion and you label it as such regardless of his position in the Church. If it contradicts something that is in the scriptures, you may label it immediately that it is false. That is why we call the scriptures our four Standard Church Works. They are the standards by which we measure all doctrine and if anything is taught which is contrary to that which is in the scriptures, it is false. It is just that simple” (“Viewpoint of a Giant,” 6).
    “All that we teach in this Church ought to be couched in the scriptures. It ought to be found in the scriptures. We ought to choose our texts from the scriptures. If we want to measure truth, we should measure it by the four standard works, regardless of who writes it. If it is not in the standard works, we may well assume that it is speculation, man’s own personal opinion; and if it contradicts what is in the scriptures, it is not true. This is the standard by which we measure all truth” (“Using the Scriptures in Our Church Assignments,” Improvement Era, Jan. 1969, 13).
    This how scripture is canonized 
    In the Church, canon refers to the authoritative collection of sacred books of scripture, known as the standard works, formally adopted and accepted by the Church and considered binding upon members in matters of faith and doctrine.
    The process is illustrated by the action taken in the April 1976 general conference under the direction of President N. Eldon Tanner, in which two revelations were added to the Pearl of Great Price. Conducting the business of the conference, President Tanner said:
    “President Kimball has asked me to read a very important resolution for your sustaining vote.
    “‘At a meeting of the Council of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve held in the Salt Lake Temple on March 25, 1976, approval was given to add to the Pearl of Great Price the following two revelations:
    “‘First, a vision of the celestial kingdom given to Joseph Smith … ; and second, a vision given to President Joseph F. Smith … showing the visit of the Lord Jesus Christ in the spirit world. …’
    “It is proposed that we sustain and approve this action and adopt these revelations as part of the standard works of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
    “All those in favor manifest it. Those opposed, if any, by the same sign” (in Conference Report, Apr. 1976, 29; or Ensign, May 1976, 19). In 1979 these two revelations were moved to the Doctrine and Covenants and became sections 137 and 138.
     
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    BJ64 reacted to Just_A_Guy in Garments   
    I always get crew-neck garments, but I thought the men’s nylon-mesh garments were basically a scoop neck front and back?
    At any rate:  the notion that the garment exists to promote modesty is a sort of latter-day midrash (although, granted, one with some patina of prophetic authority).  That is not the garment’s raison d’être as given within the temple ceremony itself.  
    It maybe worth noting that the garment as originally revealed extended to the wrist, ankles, and neck for both sexes.  The fact that the design has changed at all suggests that “modesty”, if indeed it is part of the impetus for the garment, is somewhat subjective.
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    BJ64 reacted to dahlia in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    How cool is this? It just gives me the chills. 
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    BJ64 reacted to askandanswer in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    Hey look, the percentages are dropping, from 99 to 97%, with both posts having been made 7 hours ago. If this continue at this rate, by early Sunday morning at the latest, everyone will be caring about what happens in LDS temples. 
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    BJ64 reacted to Rob Osborn in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    We have this problem as LDS where we are afraid to mention anything whatsoever from inside of temples. Much of what goes on inside of temples is public knowledge. What we dont discuss are the sacred parts and details of our covenants with accompanying signs, tokens and rites.
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    BJ64 got a reaction from zil in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    I suppose fountain pens could be problematic in Australia, being upside down and all. 😄
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    BJ64 got a reaction from NeuroTypical in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    No, there were thirty of us meeting in the high council room, sitting around the table in the middle of the room and lining the walls of the room. Basically a circle within a circle. Ten had beards. There were 23 with beards in sacrament meeting but some go to the primary, some to the young men and then there’s those who just sit in the foyer or leave after sacrament meeting. 
    A member of our bishopric has a beard, the ward clerk and two assistant clerks have beards. Two members of the elders quorum presidency have beards and a member of the Sunday school presidency has a beard. 
    Three bearded men teach Sunday school and four teach primary. Our ward family history consultant who is also a school district superintendent also has a beard.
     
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    BJ64 got a reaction from NeuroTypical in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    A few weeks back I counted in priesthood meeting. A full 1/3 of those in attendance had beards. 
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    BJ64 got a reaction from JohnsonJones in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    I suppose fountain pens could be problematic in Australia, being upside down and all. 😄
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    BJ64 got a reaction from askandanswer in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    I suppose fountain pens could be problematic in Australia, being upside down and all. 😄
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    BJ64 got a reaction from wenglund in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    No, there were thirty of us meeting in the high council room, sitting around the table in the middle of the room and lining the walls of the room. Basically a circle within a circle. Ten had beards. There were 23 with beards in sacrament meeting but some go to the primary, some to the young men and then there’s those who just sit in the foyer or leave after sacrament meeting. 
    A member of our bishopric has a beard, the ward clerk and two assistant clerks have beards. Two members of the elders quorum presidency have beards and a member of the Sunday school presidency has a beard. 
    Three bearded men teach Sunday school and four teach primary. Our ward family history consultant who is also a school district superintendent also has a beard.
     
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    BJ64 got a reaction from wenglund in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    I suppose fountain pens could be problematic in Australia, being upside down and all. 😄
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    BJ64 got a reaction from mrmarklin in More Changes to Come in 2019   
    A few weeks back I counted in priesthood meeting. A full 1/3 of those in attendance had beards. 
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    BJ64 got a reaction from zil in The Birth of Christ Foretold   
    I believe it’s pretty much assumed that Jesus was born at the time of the Passover which would be in the spring. The shepherds spoken of are said to have been tending the sacrificial lambs used at Passover. The reason there was no room at the inn was because everyone was in town for the Passover celebration. 
    At least this is what you learn if you read Elder Lund’s Kingdom and the Crown book series.  
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    BJ64 got a reaction from mikbone in Spirit Children   
    Read my post again. You obviously didn’t understand it. Only those who become gods will have a continuation of the seeds. How do you suppose gods populate the worlds they create? Do they populate them by putting  spirits into physical bodies created out of thin air? Brigham Young said there is only one way to create a physical body and that is how it has always been done. 
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    BJ64 got a reaction from mikbone in Spirit Children   
    Where does this concept of having “spirit children” come from? Where is the doctrine? And how does that concept fit in with this statement of Joseph Smith?
    “I have another subject to dwell upon, which is calculated to exalt man; but it is impossible for me to say much on this subject. I shall therefore just touch upon it, for time will not permit me to say all. It is associated with the subject of the resurrection of the dead—namely, the soul—the mind of man —the immortal spirit. Where did it come from? All learned men and doctors of divinity say that God created it in the beginning; but it is not so: the very idea lessens man in my estimation. I do not believe the doctrine; I know better. Hear it, all ye ends of the world; for God has told me so; and if you don’t believe me, it will not make the truth without effect. I will make a man appear a fool before I get through; if he does not believe it. I am going to tell of things more noble.
    We say that God Himself is a self-existing being. Who told you so? It is correct enough; but how did it get into your heads? Who told you that man did not exist in like manner upon the same principles? Man does exist upon the same principles. God made a tabernacle and put a spirit into it, and it became a living soul. (Refers to the Bible.) How does it read in the Hebrew? It does not say in the Hebrew that God created the spirit of man. It says, “God made man out of the earth and put into him Adam’s spirit, and so became a living body.”
    The mind or the intelligence which man possesses is co-equal [co-eternal] with God himself. I know that my testimony is true; hence, when I talk to these mourners, what have they lost? Their relatives and friends are only separated from their bodies for a short season: their spirits which existed with God have left the tabernacle of clay only for a little moment, as it were; and they now exist in a place where they converse together the same as we do on the earth.
    I am dwelling on the immortality of the spirit of man. Is it logical to say that the intelligence of spirits is immortal, and yet that it has a beginning? The intelligence of spirits had no beginning, neither will it have an end. That is good logic. That which has a beginning may have an end. There never was a time when there were not spirits; for they are co-equal [co-eternal] with our Father in heaven.
    I want to reason more on the spirit of man; for I am dwelling on the body and spirit of man—on the subject of the dead. I take my ring from my finger and liken it unto the mind of man—the immortal part, because it had no beginning. Suppose you cut it in two; then it has a beginning and an end; but join it again, and it continues one eternal round. So with the spirit of man. As the Lord liveth, if it had a beginning, it will have an end. All the fools and learned and wise men from the beginning of creation, who say that the spirit of man had a beginning, prove that it must have an end; and if that doctrine is true, then the doctrine of annihilation would be true. But if I am right, I might with boldness proclaim from the housetops that God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all. God himself could not create himself.
    Intelligence is eternal and exists upon a self-existent principle. It is a spirit from age to age and there is no creation about it. All the minds and spirits that God ever sent into the world are susceptible of enlargement.
    The first principles of man are self-existent with God. God himself, finding he was in the midst of spirits and glory, because he was more intelligent, saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a privilege to advance like himself. The relationship we have with God places us in a situation to advance in knowledge. He has power to institute laws to instruct the weaker intelligences, that they may be exalted with Himself, so that they might have one glory upon another, and all that knowledge, power, glory, and intelligence, which is requisite in order to save them in the world of spirits.
    This is good doctrine. It tastes good. I can taste the principles of eternal life, and so can you. They are given to me by the revelations of Jesus Christ; and I know that when I tell you these words of eternal life as they are given to me, you taste them, and I know that you believe them. You say honey is sweet, and so do I. I can also taste the spirit of eternal life. I know that it is good; and when I tell you of these things which were given me by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, you are bound to receive them as sweet, and rejoice more and more.”
    I don’t believe in the concept of giving birth to spirits. Joseph Smith certainly didn’t. 
    The source of my quote is lds.org
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    BJ64 got a reaction from LePeel in Self-defense poll for US Saints   
    In my state no permit is needed for concealed carry. My son caries everywhere including movie theaters, restaurants and church. 
    My nephew is in the bishopric of our ward and always carries his gun at church. I also know other members of our stake both men and women who carry concealed guns at church. 
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    BJ64 got a reaction from NeuroTypical in Self-defense poll for US Saints   
    In my state no permit is needed for concealed carry. My son caries everywhere including movie theaters, restaurants and church. 
    My nephew is in the bishopric of our ward and always carries his gun at church. I also know other members of our stake both men and women who carry concealed guns at church. 
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    BJ64 got a reaction from Searching in What do you think about pre Adamites?   
    http://josephsmithfoundation.org/faqs/science/11-adams-father-who-was-the-father-of-adam-do-we-have-a-royal-heritage/
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    BJ64 got a reaction from Anddenex in What do you think about pre Adamites?   
    Jesus was the only begotten of The God The Father conceived by a mortal woman into mortality. 
    Luke 3:38 tells us “Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.”
    Adam was also a son of God begotten as Brigham Young teaches us 
    "And God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness.... So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them."
    I believe that the declaration made in these two scriptures is literally true. God has made His children like Himself to stand erect, and has endowed them with intelligence and power and dominion over all His works and given them the same attributes which He Himself possesses. He created man, as we create our children; for there is no other process of creation in heaven, on the earth, in the earth, or under the earth, or in all the eternities, that is, that were, or that ever will be. (Journal of Discourses, 11:122)
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    BJ64 reacted to Searching in What do you think about pre Adamites?   
    Moses 1:35
    .... For behold, there are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power. And there are many that now stand,
    Adam and Eve brought a new era to an old world in my opinion...
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    BJ64 got a reaction from Anddenex in What do you think about pre Adamites?   
    If you follow Joseph Smith’s teaching that there is no beginning and no end then you can’t date the universe because it has no beginning it has always existed.
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    BJ64 got a reaction from goor_de in What do you think about pre Adamites?   
    If you follow Joseph Smith’s teaching that there is no beginning and no end then you can’t date the universe because it has no beginning it has always existed.