Pressing Forward

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  1. Ok, please someone start listing the factual errors in the story.   While there is some opinion in this article, what was Wrong?

    Sorry, I’m struggling with the whole idea of spending millions on “Meet the Mormons” and the “I’m a Mormon” campaign, to flip and suddenly the Mormon label is offensive to God.    I’m struggling with reversal of the baptism of LGBTQAXYZ’s kids with the now we can.   The fact that heteral and homo marriages will be treated equally when it comes to transgressions.....

    Why leave out kids of polygamists?   Why no longer consider homosexuality being apostate?  I believe the church is moving towards acceptance of homosexual marriage, and IT WILL in order to maintain tax exempt status.   

    I will be praying and listening hard this weekend, because my heart is troubled by the inroads that the gay agenda is making in our church.   With Bishops like Paul Augentstein and Richard Ostler being allowed to spread the agenda that it’s ok to be gay, bad times are coming....

  2. By divine design, fathers are to preside over their families in love and righteousness and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families. Mothers are primarily responsible for the nurture of their children. In these sacred responsibilities, fathers and mothers are obligated to help one another as equal partners. Disability, death, or other circumstances may necessitate individual adaptation. Extended families should lend support when needed.

     

    As a (once) stay at home Dad I used to have the FAMILY proclamation thrown in my face a lot.    Fact was, my wife wanted children but really did not do well as a stay at home parent.   I did.   I actually made more money than her when we initially started our reversal of roles.   She now make much more than I do 20 years later, the kids are grown and we both work.   I add this worked, and everything else works in our marriage because we act in a partnership.    I did cook clean and do the laundry though.   I still refuse to dust.

    I, glad you have found a way to go back to being a Mom.

  3. On 11/9/2018 at 6:44 AM, LatterDSaint said:

     It would be daunting for parents to expect to provide financial care for their children whilst they are in college and continually fear the possibility of a child coming into the mix 

    It wouldn’t be daunting at all, because it wouldn’t happen.    Marriage ends all support.   Maybe a few years down the road might help buy a house, but once a couple marries, their financial support is on them.     

  4. 7 minutes ago, Vort said:

    Not even close. BYU has its problems, and the cancer of leftism hasn't skipped BYU altogether. But spend a week at UW or Eastern or Central or Western Washington Universities or any PAC-12 school or Penn State or, frankly, pretty much any major university not named BYU. Then go spend a week in Provo. The difference is night to day. I don't see how this can even reasonably be debated.

    Ha!   Well I might stand corrected when it comes to UW, but who wants to be a Huskie?   We’ve toured  TCU,  UT-Austin(boy spent a week there when selected for Boys State....ewwww might be worse than Seattle) Florida State,  RIT(wife’s school) as well as BSU, BYU-P and H.   Those afore mentioned schools, except UT, all had the same feel, of course you get the modesty is hottestie Pepsi is a sin environment at the Y.     Must admit my finances wouldn’t let us tour more.       Sorry, just because the Y is a church school doesn’t make it great.    It is a good school,  and I know people who love it and disliked it, and I currently have two nieces and a nephew attending Provo.......sometimes their Dad even questions some of the stuff they say they are taught, and he’s an all is well kind of guy.

  5. BYU Provo acceptance rate is ~50%.    Like all Universities, high SAT/ACT scores and high Gpa’s do not guarantee admission, neither does being a full tithe payer.   My daughter did the ACT prep class last summer at the Y, that week was enough to let her know she has no desire to go there.   My family has a history of attending the Y, not myself, I attended CSUN and BSU.

         BYU is as bad as the rest when it comes to liberalism and whacky professors.   Oh, it does not allow smoking or drinking on campus though, or growing of beards.......my oldest is attending BSU and has a beard, and if I’m lucky I’ll never write another check to BYU, as my daughter wants to go to BSU now......except for occasional mention of BYU-H....  

    TCU was where I hoped my son would have chosen to go to school, I liked their Campus, and their values.

  6. 12 hours ago, NeuroTypical said:

    I have gathered many, many, many stories like Pressing Forward's, where a child disagrees with what the parents decide to do with their stuff, and ends the relationship.  Many of these stories include some pretty jerky actions by parents, IMO.)

    But I wouldn't call this an example of a parent shunning.  If anyone is shunning anyone, it would be Pressing Forward shunning his/her family, what with the leaving and never returning.  But no, not an example of NightSG's question: "You're telling me that Church leadership has never given clear instructions to avoid or ignore various types of people?"  Surely, no church leader every counseled family-owned businesses on how to pass on ownership to their children based on churchy-type actions.  Sounds like a decision the parents made.

    (I get it, by the way.  Sounds like you poured your heart into the family business.  Sounds like a very hurtful blow.  Not judging you, just tying your story into NightSG's question.)

    Let me clarify something.   I left the business that day and never returned.   I have a great relationship with my mother and siblings, the brother mentioned is a somewhat strained one though.   My Father is not welcome at my house and can pound sand.   I go by my Moms when he’s not home, or stay outside to visit.

  7. 4 hours ago, Vort said:

    My seventeen-year-old daughter recently discovered that song and took a liking to it, humming and singing it around the house. I asked her why she was singing a song about people going to hell. Don't think she had really understood the lyrics to that point. She didn't seem too pleased with me for enlightening her.

    I was under the wrong impression.....

     

    2. The song is about "excess in America"

    While there have been many theories that contemplate what the song represents, the Eagles' band members have revealed in multiple interviews that the true meaning behind "Hotel California" is a commentary on the hedonism and self-indulgence of America.

    “It’s basically a song about the dark underbelly of the American dream and about excess in America, which is something we knew a lot about,” Henley said in a 2002 interview with "60 Minutes."

    But I knew this little tidbit........

    The line "They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can't kill the beast," is a playful jab to rock band Steely Dan.

     

  8. 4 hours ago, Vort said:

    My seventeen-year-old daughter recently discovered that song and took a liking to it, humming and singing it around the house. I asked her why she was singing a song about people going to hell. Don't think she had really understood the lyrics to that point. She didn't seem too pleased with me for enlightening her.

    Vort,

    I was under the impression Hotel California was about a state run mental hospital in Calibasis, Ca.  Will look into this......

  9. 1 hour ago, NeuroTypical said:

    I have heard stories about people who were shunned/kicked-out/declared 'dead to me' by various church families, after the person telling the story supposedly came out of the closet, or announced they weren't going on a mission, or married outside the church, or whatever.  I've never witnessed this personally, or encountered one of the shunners.  It is a distinct possibility that all the stories I've heard have come from overly-melodramatic exaggerators with big chips on their shoulders and plenty of room to mature into someone who can deal with reality.

    I have, on the other hand, personally encountered many parents/peers/friends who have put agonizing amounts of energy into keeping communication lines open with individuals who have left the fold/turned critical/started openly sinning/etc.  "You can always come home", "We miss you and love you, please come back", and a ton of similar statements.  Out of the ones I've personally witnessed, there was zero kicking out, and all angry leaving.

    Something we often do - agonize about whether we should attend someone's same-sex wedding.  We're all over the place in our individual answers.  Everything from "I'll officiate" to "I'll loudly protest and go call everyone urging them to do the same". 

    The man whom impregnated my mother gave my “inheritance” to my younger brother (8years younger) after he returned from his Mission.  After I had worked so long and improved it during the 10 years I ran the Business, and I never saw it coming.   Two months after his return from the mission field my Dad walked in with my brother and let me know he was my new Boss, that it was his business now, it was his reward for going on a mission, something I didn’t do.  I left that day and never returned.   Business does not exist any more, hurts me  30 years later still. 

    One thing I truly dislike is the thought I might actually be sealed to that individual, and that is not good for my soul.

    Sucks......

  10. On 7/20/2018 at 2:22 AM, TheOne13 said:

    Why is coffee or tea forbidden but it's okay to drink things like Coke?

    Culture I believe had more to do with it than anything.   It is quite plain that DC89 was not given as a commandment.   It evolved into one around the turn of the century.   Bro Joseph drank wine.   Brigham Young owned Breweries and distilleries, and actually had a monopoly of sorts in distribution.   The brethren evolved into including it as a temple recommend requirement.   It is a great promise of health,  but for this life, or?    Because I’ve known a few very Christlike men that lived the Word of Wisdom, yet died young of deseases.  

       So now it’s a commandment.   But I know many who believe tattoos are breaking a commandment, have more than one earring, etc, etc.   I often wonder about those people that may have an occasional glass of wine, and are in good health, and the Bros and Sis’s  that are 350lbs.....which is following the words of wisdom.........

    Culture and Policy often are masked with a tag of being doctrine.......

    disclaimer:   I am NOT encouraging anyone to break the WoW.    It is a great promise offered to us by the Lord.   

  11. On 9/19/2018 at 8:36 AM, Rob Osborn said:

    Couples who enter into and keep separate bank accounts is usually a sign of lack of trust and seeing their relationship input equally.

    Hogwash, I think you have trust issues with your spouse.    As far as titles, etc..... we have titles that are in her name, my name, our name, one home  in her name and the other has ours on the note.     No biggie,  we’re married for the long haul, it’s why we got married.    I really have no care to what some piece of paper says,  and it’s only money.    

  12. On 9/19/2018 at 8:26 AM, Rob Osborn said:

    From what I have witnessed its a general fact

     

    We’ve been married very happily for 22 years,  wife and I have always had separate accounts.    I  get my allowance in my account, this small amount is money I don’t have to account for where it goes(usually half of it goes to the kids).  My wife pays all the bills.   I pay very little attention to her account.    She’s a debt free saver just like myself.   I do manage our long term investments, but she has access to all.    She also has access to all email/social media/whatever accounts.    Nothing hidden.......honesty, love and respect makes a marriage.   Yes LOVE! 

  13. 5 hours ago, anatess2 said:

    Well, that's simply discrimination, not financial advice.  Anyway, Clark Howard recommended UESP when I was researching for 529's.  The only thing that beat UESP is your own State 529 if your kid plans to go to that state's unis.

    Ha!   I was being snarky, that and I don’t like ewwtah.    The Alaska Savings Plan was top 5 when I started my kids plans.    I like a lot of Clark Howard’s recommendations, and a lot of Dave Ramsey’s as well.   Only thing that truly matters is that we, meaning you, others, and I, have been blessed to provide for our kids, and others.   

       It’s good council to save.......

  14. 50 minutes ago, Lee said:

    If I raise my child and they decide they want to be a Lawyer like myself or a Doctor or go into academia like their mother, then my wife and I would support them financially as best we could. 

    I would always put my kids first, I am young and having my first child so hopefully after I put them through college I will still have time to save for my wife and myself's retirement. 

    If you can only afford to save for retirement, then that’s what one should do first.   You can’t borrow for retirement, but you can for College.

    Its nice if one has the resources to take care of their kids education.    While we have had that ability, my kids will pay for one year of the four, and all past that.   They have to have some skin in the game.   It’s 100% more than I got from my parents and they definitely had the means available to them.

  15. 4 hours ago, anatess2 said:

     

     

    Utah Educational Savings Plan run by Vanguard is the best 529 among all the states.   It is what we have for our kids.

     

    A note on colleges in today's world:  TRADE SCHOOLS have a lot going for them more so than Universities.  A 529 can be used for accredited trade schools too.

    Anything that starts with ewwwtah is strictly forbidden in our home.    

  16. Married for two years and have a two year old son, wow, no moss growing on that stone.    Divorce is easy, marriage is hard.   When something is easily gained it is of no importance most of the time.   Those things we do in life that are hard are most often the most rewarding.   Dump the mindset that “I am the one to protect and provide for my family”.   It’s a team effort, regardless of whom is the primary breadwinner is.   

    Married for two years, heck, you guys don’t even know each other yet, especially if you started life together pregnant.   I’m a firm believer people should not have kids until they’ve been together long enough to know each other’s less agreeable side, which we all have.

    i wish you well, a good marriage is a wonderful thing, but it’s work, all the time.

  17. On 6/21/2018 at 2:30 PM, Overwatch said:

    I have traveled the world but still tried to remain faithful to my Christian beliefs

    I saw that and did appreciate that

    None of my business that you don't have one but since you mentioned it get one again. Lots of work to be done. I have to start going to the one nearest me, which is a few hours away but there is work to be done.

    (I still think not being able to drink coffee and being able to get tattoos doesn't make sense)

    Why thank you.

    I have three tattoos.  A turtle, a shark and an eagle.   And planning on building around the shark with multiple other fish.    I also have had many callings In the Church.   I love serving the Lord and my fellow brothers and sisters. 

    It is not a commandment to not get a tattoo.   It is not against any commandment to get a second ear ring in the ear either.   Don’t judge unrighteously and you won’t receive unrighteousness judgement.  

     It would be interesting to hear your view of homosexuals attending the temple and teaching your kids in primary.......now that it’s ok to be gay, as long as you don’t act on it, whatever that means......or is that ok with your flavor of Mormonism.

  18. I married a non-member 20+ years ago.   We probably have one-off the best marriages I’m aware of, much better than my sealed in the temple parents/siblings.     We love, trust, and respect each other.   The ONLY thing we have argued about is the church, but we have raised our kids in the church, and my wife goes to church every week with us.   I will say this, for me, I would marry her all over again.

       However, it’s hard to go to the temple by myself, even though I do.    I seriously doubt that my wife will ever join the church.

     My advice would be to marry a member if at all possible.