john4truth

Using the comparisons of the UK to the US is uninformed or dishonest. If you take away the gun crimes in cities such as Chicago (that ban firearms), the US is one of the safest countries in the world much safer than the UK. Almost all gun crimes in the US are in "gun free" cities. A prophet once said statistics are worse than lies. Be careful 🙂

Now that the Church policy has made national news I feel other actions should follow. I'm a member of several non-profit organizations and this week I was at a meeting where a letter was read ...warning people who live in East Texas of a current risk. A major law enforcement group sent out letters, warning of people who have been identified as dangerous going to non profits ...trying to be accepted and claiming to be a member. Investigation reveal the "visitor" will be well armed. This non profit asked members to lock all doors but one during meetings. Assign someone to watch those entering and if a concern is identified call 911. I would like it if the Church would have common sense guidelines to reduce risk. It is good that, since peace officers can carry, signs can not be posted. I am concerned that this nation wide news story may identify the Church as a target on Sunday. In Texas if a sign is not present it's not illegal. I never carry, but some have already said they would rather take a chance on discipline than risk there family's safety. Glenn Beck stated he believes people will be afraid to attend a Christian church within 5 years. It is is important that everyone understand nationwide we are rapidly becoming a different country and being nieve is not the best policy. You don't have to Google far to see we do have haters out there. One other Church in my tiny town has 4 unidentified armed persons at every meeting. 😆 Of course if implementation of this is like the policy that class rooms for youth and primary have windows in the doors, I will not be alive to see it implemented. PFR in our area only do what is necessary to have services due to budget restraints.

Now that the Church policy has made national news I feel other actions should follow. I'm a member of several non-profit organizations and this week I was at a meeting where a letter was read ...warning people who live in East Texas of a current risk. A major law enforcement group sent out letters, warning of people who have been identified as dangerous going to non profits ...trying to be accepted and claiming to be a member. Investigation reveal the "visitor" will be well armed. This non profit asked members to lock all doors but one during meetings. Assign someone to watch those entering and if a concern is identified call 911. I would like it if the Church would have common sense guidelines to reduce risk. It is good that, since peace officers can carry, signs can not be posted. I am concerned that this nation wide news story may identify the Church as a target on Sunday. In Texas if a sign is not present it's not illegal. I never carry, but some have already said they would rather take a chance on discipline than risk there family's safety. Glenn Beck stated he believes people will be afraid to attend a Christian church within 5 years. It is is important that everyone understand nationwide we are rapidly becoming a different country and being nieve is not the best policy. You don't have to Google far to see we do have haters out there. One other Church in my tiny town has 4 unidentified armed persons at every meeting. 😆 Of course if implementation of this is like the policy that class rooms for youth and primary have windows in the doors, I will not be alive to see it implemented. PFR in our area only do what is necessary to have services due to budget restraints.

It is important that each of us are careful in getting our own revaluations We should put our trust in Heavenly Father because man will disappoint. I will not start a fight but all men are subject to flaws. Apostles have been excommunicated for arguing contradictory revelations. I have been promoted by the Spirit, during an interview, not to issue a calling after the Stake Council made a decision. The Stake President said this was correct and how Heavenly Father does things. What ever we are doing we have our own revelations.

I find it amazing that men are told to cut their hair when Corinthians says God nor the Church has no such law and we are instructed to take no offense for this reason

Funny how we look at this so cautiously but, have no problem with Kavanaugh's crucifixion with no evidence. The Pope confessed to not acting on knowledge of children being hurt. We need to be slow to judge especially when there's a motive to make accusations. History repeats itself over and over.

Why are we talking about this. There's no evidence of wrong doing and hypothetical questions are bad. There is evidence that was blocked that Ford is the only person involved who has much to be ashamed of. This was just a stunt designed to destroy a man with no evidence. If anyone believes this how can they trust any man who ever lived. The extremist say all men have done this. If a child is born, they believe, a woman has been raped twice. The extremist are against all relations between a man and a woman, even in marriage.

There's not sufficient evidence to say. History does indicate a man that age and unmarried would normally be shunned. My understanding is that it would have really been a big deal for him to have been single. Which then causes the question would this have not been brought when his enemies sought to discredit him. We do know they're are writings that were rejected as scripture, that say he was. There's no answer but I look forward to knowing. It makes sense he would have to endure this. LOL..

Most people believe in a Father and Son but their experts disagree. I believe God is Perfect Love and in the end everybody will have the chance to accept the truth.

Sorry I should have said I have not learned RC beliefs and believe your answer. My 22 year experience is various Protestants. Not all believe the mist or nothing but everything. I am ignorant on all RC beliefs. I never accept what books say. I ask those teaching their congratulations... that is what matters. I can say with certainty some condemn all other religions but I have not ask RC experts because they were not common in my area.

I base my comments on attending 22 yrs. a church where the minister had a Drs. Degree and taught they are one and only one being, they are never separate Jesus was the Father come to earth and said that was the official view of the SBC. I know this is not always, but I attended many different churchs and those who attended theirbchurch seminary had no separation. Members felt otherwise?

I feel all may be shocked at how little we knew. When it matters we will know. Wisdom is knowing how little we know.

I seek not to dispute what you have said I am in the extreme south where they believe he is the same as the Father but what matters is they don't even believe in a being. Just a great mist that we cannot understand. The toughest part is scriptures conflict. I do not choose to debate members because someone loses regardless of who is right. The in issue is those who worship the Son not the Father I have not found perfection among us history conflicts history and I don't think it matters, I have read Constantine enforced the Trinity doctrine. This was a secular decision

We need a rule to teach as Jesus taught. Not just taking turns reading the book. Oh wait, I think we've already have been told that. LOL what ever it is I hope we'll follow instructions.

I have no pity on her. She is only trying to destroy him for polical reasons. If we allow this we are going to end up with nothing but liberals who have done drugged, raped women and anything else you can think of. We have had a president and many liberal congressmen do far worse and nothing has been done and we accept it. This is so obviously an attempt to delay until the election We are being played for fools and it is working. Your husband, father, and sons lives are at risk, I have seen lives ruined and even when proven innocent I saw a school principal destroyed. Liberals would eliminate marriage between a man and a woman. One famous liberal said if a woman has a child ,she was raped twice by her husband. This literally may be a nightmare she had. If this was true she would not have waited until after the debate was over and even now is focused on delay, delay, delay.

We're judged on what we know. A person sealed in the Temple may not make it if they don't keep the covenants. Everyone will have an opportunity so the non member may end up there. I can not say. Many members may not make it based on obedience. A prophet said don't be surprised if Billy Graham is there. It's about knowledge and obedience.

I understood from remarks you were saying they're litteraly one. I apologise if I over reacted and misunderstood. The Trinity is a common mistake. We do believe in polytheism I should read more carefully. We worship God the Father.

My bishop and I are one as the scriptures state.

The book of Genesis starts by referring to God as plural. Husband's and wives should be one like the Father and son are. Doctine is God sent his Son to Die. Jesus is baptized and the Father says behold my Son. And on and on. The can't be one litteraly this false doctrine started by Constantine to take care of politics in his time. This is the difference Christ Church and many others. The Trinity doctrine is false doctrine. If you don't believe God has a son there's a problem. They work together as one like a family,town, country but each is a totally different being. Jesus sits at the right hand of God. I hope you are joking. LOL There is an expert on this that shows the Trinity to be impossible in the Church. I heard him speak.

No one drinks hot beer. Just kidding.

I wonder what Elder Ballard's opinion is on that. It is not something solid but a missionary claimed half of members use tea or coffee on his mission. Evidently many members believe it is okay if it is cold. Maybe that's why so many now sell cold coffee. LOL

Absolutely Not!!!! Bishops and his couselors ask the questions but often don't question the answers given. If people justify things or they are not honest with themselves some leaders do not take it any further. I was in a meeting where M Russell Ballard said this. It takes courage for a leader to even suggest a person is not worthy. Essentially you are calling them a liar and from experience it's hard to do. I have heard leaders say if you are not honest, it is on you. This is false. Meeting with M. Russell Ballard, he told us( maybe even chastised) we should tell the person to go home and ponder and pray for a couple of weeks. It is on the leader, even if all he has is the Spirit and he has him feeling there's a problem. The most often probIem I find is Temporary recommends for youth. I have seen kids go on youth temple trips who rarely even go to Sacrament with hope they will become active. The questions are always asked !!!!!! I severed in 4 bishoprics and agree with M Russell Ballard we need to do a better job as leaders, if we know they are not worthy regardless what they say. Everyone needs to know, if they're not worthy , if this is the truth.

Sorry my memory is flawed. Genesis 6:2 The sons of God married the daughters of men. Leaving room for debate, and I don't know.

For some reason anatess knows the truth. Canon law no longer can hold people against their will. I am for truth. Which is RC hide behind Canon laws and children are hurt because of it. It does not matter that Anatess knows all about the laws of the RC because they do not follow them. Law not enforced is not law. It is only wishful thinking. The truth of what the law says, is not the truth about what is really happening. Anatess keeps quoting Canon Law but the Pope admitted it's not enforced. We still have the law of Consecration I am dying and broke due to an auto immune disease. In theory I should have no financial worries LOL. The truth is I am trying to save our children ...period. Theoretical Laws are not worth the parchment they are written on. The truth is RC need to do more to protect children, according to the Pope. The rest is a foolish debate. Anatess please do not try to prove your knowledge at the expense of children. She is arguing with the Pope.

Some bishops do some don't.