Chilean

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  1. 15 hours ago, Suzie said:

    Chilean, I don't want to sound preachy but I am sure the OP knows exactly what he/she did. I don't think it is helpful to remind a brother or a sister their past transgressions specially after the repentance process took place. The Lord is clear when He says he does not remember them "no more". So even though I understand your frustration, my heart goes out to anyone who has chosen to be honest with themselves and confess their sins, particularly during a mission. It takes a lot of guts. It is time to support each other, it could be us...

    I understand what you're saying, and I apologize. :)

  2. 22 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

    She was having some sort of panic attack/mental issue, and when she was noticed, she explained her reactions by claiming she had been raped.   She had not been raped.  She was having some sort of panic attack/mental issue.  There was no rapist.

    Ohhh I see Thank you. :)

  3. 7 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

    This transcript is her admitting making a false rape claim and explains why.

    From what you quoted, I didn't read where she said it was false though.  

    I think some people are just crazy, or mentally ill, and make up stuff to draw attention. Her transcripts is very ... weird, like she definitely has something going on up in her head.

  4. 3 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

    Yeah, no, anatess.  I have a former bishop who did time for molesting a child (after he was bishop).  George P. Lee of the seventy molested a young girl.  A few years back, an online sting operation in Idaho grabbed Stake President Clayton R. Hildreth who had flown in from another state, box of lingerie in hand, hoping to hook up with someone he thought was a 15 yr old girl.  

    The general notion is offensive.  We hate thinking about such things, and most good people have a bit of hardwiring in them that just makes it hard to believe that anyone could do such things to a child, much less respected folks from good families.  But humans are humans - and just because someone is the husband of a daughter of the president of the church, doesn't make him not human.

    "That sort of thing just doesn't happen with this group of people" - that's a lie spawned in the pit of hell, and it belongs in the 1980's where it started to die off.  I am not saying the current news story is true.  I'm saying it is wrong to just write it off as false because we like Pres. Nelson and assume his family to be immune to such things.

     

    Exactly!!

    Heck, I hold no one on a pedestal. Humans are humans and many do stupid and illegal stuff, yes even members of the church.

  5. Sorry :( But I don't have a lot of tolerance for missionaries disobeying rules, and after months of secret guilt, confessing... How do they teach with the spirit when they're doing wrong?

    There are soooo many young people working their tails off to be able to afford and serve a mission, heck, there are so many members working years to save money to go to a temple. Ughh, it just makes me upset that young missionaries do stupid stuff without measuring consequences.

    When a missionary decides to serve, no one is making him/her go, and he/she is giving that time to the Lord to find those that need the Gospel... if you guys wanted to do stupid stuff, then you should've stayed home instead of wasting your parents/wards/stake/church resources.

    Good luck.

     

  6. Heck, I'm Latina, and I love to cook, I wish I had more time every day to cook more stuff. I love cooking from scratch!

    My husband cooks as well... but I think he does it cause he has to (When I'm late after work).

    Hmm... the best/favorite dish... I don't know, A few months ago I tried a new recipe that was pretty "delicious to the taste",  it had quinoa, green, red and yellow peppers, black beans and cilantro. Oh My sooo yummy!!

    Uhhh, I have another dish that has quinoa, shrimps, cilantro, avocado and lime, Soooo good!

  7. I think it depends what kind of exercise you're going to perform.  At the end it's your choice to do whatever you want, and whatever feels right in your heart.

    I sometimes wear the garment when exercising, some other times I only wear the bottom part. But as soon as I'm done taking a shower I put them back on. I don't go walking around to run errands without garments, some members like doing that after working out...

  8. 12 minutes ago, Lost Boy said:

    Why is it that LDS women equate watching porn with their husbands not loving them? 

    It's not the addiction, but what the addiction does to the addict. It makes them secretive, mean, defensive, it's the behaviors that come with the addiction, and it cane be any addiction, it doesn't matter, but the addiction will make the addict behave in ways that loved ones cant understand, and cant justify.

    14 minutes ago, Lost Boy said:

    There is an evil statement out there..  "If he loved me, he wouldn't do it." 

    I don't think it's evil to think like that, but it is a sign of codependency. Whomever is thinking like that need to get therapy to stop being codependent.

     

    17 minutes ago, Lost Boy said:

    I don't know the typical reaction of LDS women, but in my mind I see it playing out this way.  First they think their husband doesn't love them, that they feel inadequate, that covenants are broken and all is pretty much lost and so in order to fix him they chastise him.  Tell him how he makes them feel...  gives him a complete guilt trip on it.

    You're pretty right one that, but remember not everyone is a therapist, not everyone knows how to cope with loved ones addiction. When women find out about any addiction they go through trauma, and women (and men) do not know how to react to trauma. Give me a break!

     

    20 minutes ago, Lost Boy said:

    But that is not what we are really taught in the LDS culture.  We are taught that he is scum and not worthy to be your husband.  The truth is that he is still God's son and God still loves him.  And he needs help and support out of the hole he got himself into.   I would guess that most of the time both husband and wife take the wrong approach to it and both suffer. 

    That is not true. I am sorry if brothers have felt no support. But there is help, and yes there is a stigma as well, but if everyone was to be honest and talk about the elephant in the room, wouldn't it be easier for brothers to get help? wouldn't it be easier for sisters to get support as well.

    The fact that por n addiction is so shameful makes it hard to be open about it and get help, when the truth is many are struggling with it and feeling alone, when there are so many going through the same.

  9. 25 minutes ago, Searching said:

    I should have divorced him.  I was told to "forgive" though, and I was scared of losing kids in a custody battle (he makes more $ than I do, and would be able to get a better lawyer).  Now I am living with... "once an addict always an addict" so just deal with it?  Redefine my morals and say "it's no big deal" to it? or I could pretend that he is "all better" because he is pretty good at hiding things?  I can "hope" for recovery?  

    Read that manual. :)

    Healing through Christ.pdf

  10. 30 minutes ago, Searching said:

    Did God really abandon the world for hundreds of years? is there really only one small chosen people? how is that loving?

    I don't think God really abandoned us ever, I think what happens is our own choices, and our nations' choices are what drive us away from Him. The apostasy was the consequence of people forgetting about God.     ---- Chosen people?  For some reason, the Jews are a big deal in the Christian world, and in the church. They were (I think) the first people to make covenants with God. At the end, what I know to be true is that we all have the same chance to be exalted and return to Heavenly Father, and He is a loving father to all of us.

     

    30 minutes ago, Searching said:

    I do not have faith or trust in anything... what to have hope in?  I hope there is a loving God, I hope all tears will be wiped away, I hope all of these experiences refine - rather than grind to dust...  I hope as a convert I can be with my parents, and grandparents, and everyone from my family together forever - so I guess I hope there are not different degrees of glory, I hope everyone repents and learns what they need in order to be together... I hope God has given us all the correct experiences to refine and not harden us?  ... If all I can do right now is hope for something, what should I hope for?

    For everything you just said, but at this very moment, hope to be healed, and hope to understand that things on Earth are very different that things in Heaven.

    30 minutes ago, Searching said:

    do callings really come from God? because these brethren had callings they should not have had....  anger for kids who were not protected from harm...  I am not sure how not to be angry for kids who have been hurt?  I would love to not be angry.  

    Most callings come from God.        

    Sweetie... through personal experience (many years of experience unfortunately as a child) I can tell you, do not feel anger for those kids that weren't protected, It's already too late, but pray to have forgiveness in your heart. Pray for those children to find healing (Just like I did :) )    Thank you for that anger, but anger leaves no space for hope and love and forgiveness, if I have been able to forgive you can too. 

    This life is beautiful even when we get to experience hell, but we still have a Heavenly Father who loves us, and there is always hope.  You know the plan, you know what the idea, the plan, for being in this earthy world is. So just hold on to that truth. The Gospel is true, and this life on Earth is but a twinkle of an eye, and it'll be over before we know it, and we'll return with our heavenly father.

    Don't lose hope.

     

  11. 1 hour ago, Searching said:

    so I have lost faith in the priesthood.  I have achieved "broken heart and contrite spirit" status, but have also grown angry and am now starting over from square one.  Do you think there is a place in the church for someone who has a really hard time trusting any priesthood leaders?  I might be better off stepping away from everything and having an entirely new start to it all?  

    The priesthood is the power of God. Men are human, and do stupid stuff, even priesthood holder, but we cant lose hope of the priesthood just because the men who have it do stupid/evil things.

    I would invite you to study as much as you can about the priesthood, and pray to your Heavenly Father for you to learn how you can be blessed by the priesthood.
     

    I find it hard to understand you have achieved a broken heart and a contrite spirit but are angry.  Wouldn't a broken heart and contrite spirit actually make you humble and patient about the Lord's will?
    YES! Of course! There is always a place for you at Church! The Gospel is true, that is all that matters. So don't lose hope. "However far from home and family and God you feel you have traveled, I testify that you have not traveled beyond the reach of divine love. It is not possible for you to sink lower than the infinite light of Christ’s Atonement shines." (Elder Holland).

    Don't lose hope. I know how hard and difficult things can get. I also divorced ex husband because of the same reasons.  But the atonement is true, and whatever heartache you have, for whatever reason, the Savior can heal your broken heart. So just let Him in so He can heal you.

    "Will ye not now return unto me, and repent of your sins, and be converted, that I may heal you?" (Jesus, 3 Nephi 9:13)

  12. As the ex wife of a porn addict I would tell you: Give her a break!
    She needs to heal. 

    I would recommend for you to watch a movie, it's called: Fireproof. It's like a evangelical movie. I think it's pretty good. 

    Just love your wife, treat her with love, be nice, and give her some time, meaning... if she needs many months or even years to forgive, then you wait (If you truly love her)

     

  13. My kids are old now. But when they were little I would take them outside the sacrament room and put them in time out.  I'm one of those moms that does take kids out of sacrament if they are being irreverent. I believe members goes to sacrament to feel the spirit, to renew their commitments, to hear something that will inspire them, and if my kids are disturbing other I will take them out, and have a talk. Mine are pretty good now, they are 11, almost 9, and 4, the 4 yrs old is the one that could give us problem sometimes.

    Yesterday I went to church only to sacrament with the 3 of them by myself, as my husband was at the hospital with his dad whos at the ICU. I knew from the start that it was gonna be tiresome to go with them to church without my husband, as the 4 yrs old just whines a lot, but I brought help and actually he was super good the whole time... I was so proud of him...

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  14. Shouldn't be something people are able to do.

    I met my 1st husband online... ha! We lasted 7 1/2 years married (cause he got silly). My sister actually also met her husband online, and they're still married (like 12 years I think)

    It is possible for people to develop romantic feelings for people whom you have never met personally. I did. and I've met other people who also have. BUT as I look back I think: What the heck was I thinking?? haha I wouldn't do it again, and I would discourage my kids from doing it, just because you cant really get to know someone online, even when you're talking all the time. There are just every day situations that you have to experience with someone by being together  at the same time in the same place.

    So... Online marriage... is stupid.

     

  15. 1 hour ago, Traveler said:

    I am not sure that laying your hands on someone's head is necessary.  Lets look at this from a slightly different perspective.  First - when an Elder gives a blessing by the power of the priesthood they are acting for and as G-d by proxy.  Now lets consider a prayer - even a prayer given by a child.  That prayer is ended or given under the authority of the name of Jesus Christ.  If you read the Later-day Saint Bible dictionary under the topic of prayer - you will read that there are BLESSINGS withheld in heaven until sought for by faith through prayer.  In short prayers are necessary (and it does not indicate from who) for blessings to be received.

    I believe that part of the reason that the stripling warriors were preserved was because of their mother's prayers while they were so far away from home.  I believe we should have more faith in the power of prayers uttered in the name of Jesus Christ.  I believe that prayers of faith are more important than priesthood blessings - and that prayers of faith are key elements in the fulfillment of priesthood blessings. 

     

    The Traveler 

    I should write this things down, so I don't forget them. You make sense. 

  16. 33 minutes ago, mikbone said:

    Yeah 89-91 I spent time in Osorno, Punta Arenas, Puerto Montt, and Porvenir

    I was there when Pinochet stepped down and democracy took over.

    I haven’t been back, but I hope to return Dec 14, 2020 for the total eclipse.

    That's cool!! Southern Chile is the best, I think. People are warmer, and the food over there is also very yummy.   I'm from Santiago. My grandma met the sister missionaries through a common friend back in the 60's.
    I was born in 87 so I was very young the last few years of Pinochet. 
    My sister is visiting Chile right now for "las Fiestas Patrias", I haven't been back in like 11 years... I just don't want to... as I'll get homesick, and I rather not expose myself to feeling sad about living so far away from friends and family. So I'm good with no visiting. LOL  
    Yeah, that eclipse should be wonderful to see from Chile.

  17. I personally don't think Jesus was married. His mission wasn't about getting married and forming a family. He came to perform the atoning sacrifice.

    Plus... I don't think he needs a temple marriage to become a God, as we know in the pre-mortal existence for some reason he was way ahead of all of us.

  18. 18 hours ago, Traveler said:

     A righteous sister can give a blessing just not by the power of the priesthood.  There was a time when it was believed that sisters could not open or close sacrament meeting with prayer because they do not hold the priesthood.  That has been corrected - women can pronounce opening and closing prayers - including a blessing - to bring the spirit of G-d upon the gathering and to give comfort for those in attendance or for some reason not able to attend.

    That is interesting.

    So ... If I was to give a blessing, it would be more like a prayer? would I still lay on my hands on the head of the person?

  19. 55 minutes ago, mikbone said:

    Do women in the church want the priesthood?

    Nah, I don't want it, I don't need to hold it to be benefited from it.  People need to understand that the priesthood is not for personal benefit, there is no way you can get blessings to yourself if you have it. For example my husband is the only priesthood holder in our home (my son is almost 9 and wont receive it until 3 more years), if my husband was to get sick, he cant lay on his hand on his head and pronounce a blessing to himself, he would have to seek for another priesthood holder to give him a blessing.

    So, the wonderful thing is that the priesthood has been restored and there are many worthy priesthood holders. Sister don't need to get it. I consider myself to be somewhat feminist, and I think sisters don't need it. Some might think they need it to feel equal to men, but I don't.

    I do believe in the future, when being exalted we the sisters might receive the priesthood, but it might not even be in the way we use it now. I don't know.

    I do have to confess that about a month ago, one of our sons was sick, my husband had already left for work, and I was to stay with the little one home, and for a second I thought: "I wish I could give him a blessing". and then I thought about a story I heard once when sister missionaries gave a blessing to someone and in the prayer said something about the priesthood that their mission president had, instead of by the power and authority I posses.  Any way, I didn't give him a blessing, but it crossed my mind the fact that if I could by making reference I guess of the priesthood my husband does have.

    In the temple sisters have some of the priesthood I guess... right?