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  1. I ditched Satellite back in 2018 and will never go back. No point in paying for 180+ channels when you only watch 10 or so of them...and you can only watch one at a time anyways. I picked up a digital antenna for 20 bucks  online and currently have 87 channels, including all network TV and their subsidiaries, as well as PBS kids. (approx. 25 of those channels are a mix of Spanish and shopping channels)

    It's nice having an extra $75-80 each month.

  2. It is best practice to have font built below ground due to the symbolism that can be taught to the individual. However, it is absolutely not necessary. There are people still baptized in above ground swimming pools; either due to building regulations, or, because membership in some countries is growing faster than the church can build the chapels.

  3. 30 minutes ago, Anddenex said:

    She can no longer work at the MTC because of a new rule that has been implemented this fall semester. If you are on a Visa they prohibit you from working for a religious organization.

    I would be very curious to know why this restriction was put in place. The only thing I could dig up was the following website. It wouldn't surprise me if instead of clearing up the backlog, they just got rid of it.

  4. 26 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

    I think you misunderstood my intent.

    Do you know the background of Saruman's many colors in the books?

    I believe so, but I do not know if Tolkien wrote any specifics. In short, the way I view it is that the color white is the reflection of all colors at once. He initially had everything he needed, and was the greatest of the five, including most in middle earth.

    Choosing to wear many colors over white was his outward expression of pride, thinking that he now had (or always had) the powers and knowledge of all the wizards, and those who created him. It was his way of "showing" everyone that he had all power, that he was diverse in knowledge and influence. In reality, he was muddled, confused, and a shell of what he once was.

    Sorry if my first comment was a bit off topic/course...I am known to do that when my mind starts thinking about too many things at once. ;)

  5. 1 hour ago, Carborendum said:

    I wonder... Saruman of many colors.

    One can argue that he was the key figure in the story...the turning point. If he had not sought his own will, but the will of those who sent him, the number of lives lost would have been greatly diminished, and Sauron would have needed an entirely new plan as his forces alone would have been spread too thin.

    One grain of rice can tip the scales, whether it be a wizard, or a hobbit.

  6. 1 hour ago, Anddenex said:

    Yep, this is a perfect example, and yes, if we look at the Bible and the Book of Mormon we know before Christ came the first time those that believed were targeted by those that did not.

    What will be even more concerning is the members of the Church who are in support and do support such actions. We will see this also, and already are seeing this to a point.

    We sadly have multiple families/individuals in our ward who have been to the temple, and for all intents and purposes were "fully active" members; who now, have not been to church in over 2 years since the church won't "authorize" homosexuality. They fly the pride flag proudly on their homes, and tell all they meet that the church will be changing soon...that they will soon 'embrace love' and 'accept everyone as the Savior would'.

    A great deal of pressure will come from within just as much as from the outside.

  7. On 7/27/2022 at 1:42 PM, Anddenex said:

    This is one thing I have concerns about. We are already seeing this form of intimidation in many avenues.

    The following is another example. In coming days their rationale will shift to Christianity. How will the saints react when not just a state, but individuals are targeted?

  8. 48 minutes ago, askandanswer said:

    When its widely known or believed that many people do or might carry guns, then a logical response of those who would do harm with guns is not to go looking for those without guns, but to simply use more and better guns, more skillfully.

    No, that is not logical. Not at all.

    Unless they have a death wish, that is exactly the opposite of what someone would do who is trying to cause as much damage or death as possible.

  9. On 7/20/2022 at 8:59 AM, Emmanuel Goldstein said:

    Perhaps ruled would be a better word, not ministered, that is what angels are for.


    2 hours ago, Anddenex said:

    Indeed the Father and Son rule, and they also minister. For we know our Savior "ministered" to the people in the Spirit World. In the context I was providing, minister is an appropriate word here.

    Perhaps a bit out of context, but I view our obedience to the Father in the hereafter being more out of love and gratitude rather than God ruling or dictating per se. My earthly father and mother currently have no power over me in any form, yet, if they were to ask me to do something for them I would still do it out of love and respect. I don't want that to sound sacreligious in any way, as God truly is all powerful and we all must obey Him, but I doubt He would ever need to dictate rules to those of His children that attain a Celestial glory, as they will already understand such laws due to becoming exalted, and one with Him and the Son.

  10. I wonder if recent films and television series (such as Chernobyl) were actually made to put fear into people that nuclear energy is bad and dangerous. If nuclear was adopted more widely, the left would lose one of their 4 great ideological pillars...and they cannot let that happen.

    I also wonder if we were to put more money into nuclear energy if mankind would eventually have associated research that led to small size power sources from fusion/fission like we see in Star Wars and Star Trek. Perhaps that is just the sci-fi geek in me coming out, but there is no way we would ever get to that point relying on solar and wind alone.

  11. 1 hour ago, Carborendum said:


    • There is only one solution with current or up-and-coming technologies that will address both of these issues: Nuclear power.  There is no other way.

    The only other way is to go back to living life before electricity. How many of those who have made climate change their religion are willing to do that? I doubt they even know how. Life would be difficult without power, but I could survive. I doubt the majority of our nation could.

  12. 11 minutes ago, Backroads said:

    Not on this one, but stuff about behaviors gave me mental disequilibrium. 

    Teachers can only do so much. From where I'm standing, those parents need to model better behaviors for their children.

    I was a pediatric nurse for 5 years, and can't tell you how many children I saw with mental health problems that were a direct reflection of their parent's attitudes and behavior. Children truly learn to deal with problems by watching how their parents do it.

  13. 2 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said:

    I agree.  The subtext of the OP seems to be, when is mercy not really mercy?  It seems to beg some definitional questions.  What is mercy?


    I would say mercy is showing compassion by relieving pain or suffering. To me, the Lord's condescension, and resulting ability for me to repent through Him, is merciful.

  14. 31 minutes ago, Backroads said:

    One became very upset in our virtual room when there were kids of different races and later told me the a church leader once talked about keeping to your own kind and how it was like avoiding the Gentiles.

    My, they sound like simply charming people. For what it's worth, I serve in the temple, and the most humble and reverent people I have seen so far have been Latino. Also, I don't think the word gentile means what they think it means. It makes no sense anyway since we have been told to take the gospel to the gentiles.

    31 minutes ago, Backroads said:

    One was upset over kids who couldn't sit still on camera (I tend to turn off their cameras after so long if they can't get it together, but Mom said it the kid was a bad example and influence and this is what she wanted to avoid).

    All kids...everywhere. Do they not remember being a kid? Are their kids statues at home all day? If so, I feel bad for those kids.

    32 minutes ago, Backroads said:

    Another was uncomfortable with all "city kids" as corrupt influences.

    I would ask them to define "city". Most people in Utah don't know what a city is...they have never left the state. Downtown Ogden or Riverdale aren't cities. The only city we really have is SLC, and it is a very small city. Drop those folks in the middle of Houston or Atlanta and they would have a panic attack.

    I have seen some good ol' country boys cause more mayhem than city kids ever could. Again, along the lines of race, it goes back to culture/family, not location.

    37 minutes ago, Backroads said:

    Multiple admitted they were hoping virtual school would keep them immune from child abuse charges.

    Unless I am grossly misunderstanding this, those people sound extremely odd, or just need help.

    38 minutes ago, Backroads said:

    All of these claimed church teachings somewhere along the line.

    People love to cherry pick one or two sentences from old apostles (usually out of context) and cite it as modern doctrine, and the basis for their "holier than thou" attitude.

  15. 3 hours ago, askandanswer said:

    Which do you think is the most merciful arrangement:

    a)       Complete and unconditional mercy for all;

    b)      Complete mercy for all who meet all the conditions on which it is offered, ie. You meet all the conditions so you get all the mercy you need;

    c)       Some mercy in proportion to which the condition have been complied with, ie, you only meet some of the conditions so you only get some of the mercy you need; 

    d)      All the mercy you need subject to you keeping a broad, flexible, maybe even negotiable, range of conditions; or

    e)      All the mercy you need subject to you making a considerable effort to meet a broad, flexible, maybe even negotiable range of conditions?

    Well, the most merciful is of course complete mercy, so answer A.

    However, that does not mean it is the best option. Complete mercy allows no room for growth, because there is no accountability. Mercy and justice go hand in hand in God's cannot escape the other. Agency would not exist with mercy alone.

  16. 32 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

    While I agree that such behavior is extremely annoying (I'm glad I have a wife who simply tells me what she wants) I disagree that is the reason for MGTOW.

    I believe it is two reasons:

    • Someone else posted a while back about The Husband Store.  
    • Women have made the decision to have a career before a marriage.

    Put those two together, and yeah.

    I shared the story with my wife. I chuckled at it, but she said it was unfair. Yet...she can't explain to me why she thinks that way. :)

  17. 15 minutes ago, Vort said:

    Satan laughs and his angels rejoice.

    Here is my opinion about MGTOW from four years ago. It pretty much expresses my current feelings on the subject.


    From what I hear (which could be one sided) women are now actively seeking "starter marriages". This gives them the opportunity to "practice marriage", and then upon their planned divorce, they get to take a large portion of their husband's monetary assets which "moves them ahead" while they progress in their careers and ssearch for their real Mr. Right.

    This is of course all unknown to their first husband, who knows nothing of their wife's true intentions. I have seen many bitter and angry commments from "red-pilled" men that this has hapened to warning others not to fall into Delilah's lap.

    The adversary has many tools in his arsenal. Anything teaching or practice that disrupts the family, or potential families, is right near the top.

  18. 5 hours ago, Vort said:

    If you were wondering why the MGTOW movement seems to be gaining momentum, look no further than Exhibit A above.

    If I wasn't a member of the church (and didn't already have an amazing wife) I would probably be right there along with them. I have so many young cousins that say the dating scene right now is a complete nightmare. So much entitlement and laziness.

  19. 32 minutes ago, Carborendum said:

    My OP was not about pronouns.  That happened to be the triggering mechanism. But it could just as easily been anything else.

    In addition to banking, I think about education and careers/employment. For example, many in the church are happy about BYU joining the BIG12 conference. This affiliation (nor any) will not last long. The school will soon be ostracized from the world of academics because it will not heartily embrace the ever "progressive" agenda of the devil. The day will soon come when many schools and professional organizations will choose to not recognize degrees from BYU. Zion will truly be in the midst of Babylon, and the saints will need to truly learn how to rely on their God rather than the arm of the flesh.

    I also wonder if the church is churning out so many temples lately because in the near future, many large construction companies will refuse to work with them. All forms of business will be affected by the mark and allegiance to wickedness.