Emmanuel Goldstein

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  1. But that is what it says in the Book of Mormon.
  2. Why does everyone assume that Moroni traveled with the plates. He buried them after he finished Ether and only wrote in them again some 30 years later. During that time we can assume he traveled to the Utah area. Of course there is no scriptural support for the story that Moroni dedicated the hill for the Manti temple, that is based on a story told by Brigham Young. I think he buried them in Cumorah after Ether, then did his wandering. When he found himself in the New York area again he decided to dig them up and writer a few more items that had come up that would be of use to us.
  3. Nibley suggested that Mulek was a wee baby and that Jeremiah led their group out of Jerusalem to Egypt.
  4. Perhaps you could clarify your position in the simplist and shortest way possible. Long post tend to circle the point rather than getting to it.
  5. People forget that there are a lot of very rich people who are very good people and do a lot to help others. I am glad that you one. Thank you sharing, it boosts my faith in humanity. On a side note I know several poor people who are despicable and frankly evil people.
  6. Genesis 32 29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. Judges 13 18 And the angel of the Lord said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret?
  7. You spend a lot of your time telling everyone how there is just heaven and hell and nothing else. You only seem to quote a single scripture from the Book of Mormon to support this and you ignore when someone points out multiple scriptures from the D&C and other locations that show your are not completely correct, sections 76 and 88 in particular. There are three kingdoms of glory in the afterlife and they are all places that will be filled with people at peace and not suffering eternal torment.
  8. You have a very narrow view of eternity.
  9. Words have power, especially names. At least two times in the Bible angels refuse to give their names. Mosiah talks about God knowing us by our names. In D&c 130 it says, 11 And a white stone is given to each of those who come into the celestial kingdom, whereon is a new name written, which no man knoweth save he that receiveth it. The new name is the key word. I think this is why Christ is sometimes called the Word.
  10. But, seriously, the Word is a reference to the Gospel message of salvation through the teachings and Atonement of Jesus Christ, the creator of the heaven and Earth.
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  12. I think God the Father exists outside of our Universe. I don't think we can ever come close to understanding the state in which he lives until we have reached it ourselves. The Multiverse is beyond our comprehension because we are now existing inside this space-time continuum.
  13. So it is just a theory of Hugh Nibley then? He could be right, but it is possible that Lehi was the rightful heir to the plates and Laban had kept them against the will of God.
  14. What do you mean by saved? My definition of saved is entering the Celestial Kingdom, but for some it means simply to not go to Outer darkness. So, no, one cannot enter the Celestial Kingdom without repenting and accepting Christ as our Savior.
  15. I see, there are three kingdoms of Glory after the last judgement, so no, one does not need to follow the Savior in all he commands to receive the lower two kingdoms. Only those that follow the path of the Gospel will enter into the Celestial realm. However, if you want to receive the fullness of the Celestial Kingdom you need to repent and accept the Atonement of Christ into your life. In our mortal state it is impossible to live the commands of Jesus 100 percent, that is why the Atonement was needed, so we can repent when we fall short of the commandments of God.
  16. I think we should live the Gospel of Jesus Christ as contained in the Standard works of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We should also consider the teachings of the living prophets as the gospel as well. Hope that clarifies how I feel about it.
  17. What is your point? Because your questions feel like a logic trap to me.
  18. There are many paths, but when you enter into baptism then the way is very narrow.
  19. Mary Whitmer was also allowed to see the plates. She had a visitor that showed them to her because of her faithfulness. Mary, afterward referred to this visitor as "Brother Nephi" for the rest of her life. He may have been one of the Three Disciples that were given power over death. Some later versions say it was Moroni, but the original sources disagree with them. https://www.mormoninterpreter.com/another-account-of-mary-whitmers-viewing-of-the-golden-plates/
  20. The skin color change may have been because of the Lamanites mixing with other peoples that were in the Americas already.
  21. It is just a side affect of the way English was used in 1829. We have changed the language since then to make run-on sentences less common.