Nordic saint

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  1. That's amazing! I've wondered if such a library existed. Thank you Not all heroes wear capes
  2. "But McConkie seems to be teaching that that time is in no way impacted by the conditions of the world" Sounds pretty odd. The parable of the wheat and the tares would strongly indicate that the growing polarization between the gospel and the world is a factor for the second coming "Does this imply that some of those who live during the millennium may only inherit the Terrestrial Kingdom because only Telestial law abiders are removed?" There will be both celestial and terrestrial inheritors in the millennial kingdom "Is this implying that the natural man will not exist within us during the Millennium?" Since we who are not dead still have mortal bodies in the millennium, I'm pretty sure the natural man still exists, especially considering there will be a variety of people there. Just a guess, but perhaps people worthy of the celestial and terrestrial kingdom are more resistant to the natural man than telestials when Satan is not there to whisper in their ears?
  3. Well, I guess it's good for the last prophet before the second coming to know that there's a deadline for repentance 😂 I don't think though that the rest of us are going to know the date since we're supposed to look at the signs of His coming to know that He's near and live as if He's already here. I don't say that's how it's going to be, but I haven't seen anything that would indicate otherwise
  4. I absolutely agree. Even if one bible version is considered more accurate, it's still far from a correct translation of the originals. It's a huge blessing that we have the necessary teachings today despite the attempts to change the scriptures
  5. Easy now, cowboy 🤠 I thought it went without saying that latter-day saints shouldn't talk down to each other, especially when it's uncalled for. But I guess not. But no, the main post didn't claim that the KJV version should be the most correct English version available. I think however you take this a little bit too personal. Where did the notion about the KJV being the most correct version come from anyway? Perhaps I haven't noticed the general authorities mentioning it...
  6. Well, Joseph Smith did say that the German version was the most correct version, so it can't really be because of that... they could just have translated it to English. However, the King James was indeed (and still is) a very popular version, and the language fits the Book of Mormon. It's funny though to see when the general authorities use other bible translations in their talks. There's no need to be obsessed about it, as long as you don't suddenly have a class reading out loud from 20 translation (it's good to agree to some order)
  7. I was very confused when I first read that this passage was interpreted as if they were apostles or included in the aposleship.... I would argue that it's one of those passages that shows the limits of the english language and the necessity of critical thinking when reading through the scriptures. A direct translation google translate style from the Swedish Bible, 2015 version would be like this: Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and fellow prisoners, who are highly esteemed among the apostles and who came to Christ before me (The original: Hälsa Andronicus och Junia, mina landsmän och medfångar, som är högt ansedda bland apostlarna och som kom till Kristus före mig) Note how it still translates to "among the apostles" if you just google translate it, which is quite interesting. Even though it's how it's translated word for word, it's definitely not how it's commonly interpreted. It would instead be interpreted like like this: Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and fellow prisoners, whom the apostles think very highly of, and who came to Christ before me In short, the apostles thought they were good saints. I tried to look at translations in other nordic languages and other germanic translations, and it's the same there. perhaps you can propably only make "women aposltes" arguments in english
  8. Well, Joseph Smith did say this: "It is better, said Joseph Smith, to feed ten impostors than to run the risk of turning away one honest petition" This principle can be applied to not just food but to any judgement we make
  9. General conference is supposed to be relevant for the time, not to please us with deep teachings or things WE think is important... so no, I don't see it as boring but important spiritual instruction/insight However, general conference has barely begun, we'll see what else is in store for us
  10. Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. I do believe that John was referring to Nero but also that the beast and its mark is not just one single person or concept but rather the spirit of it which continues until Jesus says: it is enough. During the ages we have seen rotten leaders who behave just like him, blaming and persecuting the saints or the seekers. A corrupt and tyrannic ruler. But I'm just guessing here. sadly, the church anything official about it... which is also why I'm guessing that it at least refers to Nero since he probably wouldn't have spiritual significance to us (maybe)
  11. Well, the first thing that came to my mind was the Savior's words when He said: "Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so" So I would say yes, the attitude of the people can affect teachings and operation.... To a certain degree. I don't believe that God surrenders to our opinions and sins and make compromises. However, I do believe that God adapt the church to work so as many as possible can be saved without violating the celestial laws
  12. Yeah... if the vaccine was so dangerous, God would have stopped the prophet from doing it and even urge others to do so.... I'll get the shot
  13. Well, we are discouraged to use the short form LDS. However, when you refer the people themselves, you can definitely say things like "Latter-day saint culture"... it even has lesser syllables than for example "evangelical culture" 😁 Reference: "When referring to Church members, the terms "members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," "Latter-day Saints,” "members of the Church of Jesus Christ" and "members of the restored Church of Jesus Christ" are preferred. We ask that the term "Mormons" and "LDS" not be used."
  14. It was called "The bald haircutter" It could be argued that the title itself is a red flag 😂
  15. Personally I'm very careful about what I watch no matter the rating. I was invited to watch a movie in the cinema with a G rating with my sister, and I thought "well, can't do any harm watching a "childish" movie. Well... It contained sex scenes (and of course, it was adultery just to make it even worse), full body nude scenes and heated up homosexual scenes... Let's just say that I still haven't fully recovered. Moral of the story: even though this is an extreme case, it shows that just because a movie has a certain label, you never really know if it has been made so that The Lord would approve it. Parental guides and alike are still the best guidelines for whether the movie reflects your standards or not
  16. If I may say, and this is just a guess based on observations..... I think it's because we as a whole have forgotten Him in our doings. When I hear members talk about church stuff, I rarely hear The Lord mentioned. It's more focused on things we do practically like the Word of Wisdom, self reliance, and family history. While these definitely are good things, people outside of the church will not associate us with The Lord if we don't show that we do such things because of Him. think about it, we even got commanded to focus on the church's proper name instead of "Mormons". Plus, since we often have used Moroni as a symbol, quite a few think that we worship angels.
  17. I really like the one from the "pillar of light" comic. Not because of its artstyle (personally I think it's too dramatic), but I really like how the rest of the personages from the vision is included just as they should
  18. And that's why I mentioned God's part in tithing men are not supposed to dictate how much an honest tithe is, but I can guarantee that you don't want to cheat/mock God.. we know what happens to those kinds of people, so let's just listen to the prophets and the apostels when they have spoken And yes, we are not universalists and I have never indicated that either.... quite the opposite actually
  19. Well, the only thing I can do in this case is to quote the brethren's official statements This is from the first presidency letter from 1070: "For your guidance in this matter, please be advised that we have uniformly replied that the simplest statement we know of is that statement of the Lord himself that the members of the Church should pay one-tenth of all their interest annually, which is understood to mean income. No one is justified in making any other statement than this. We feel that every member of the Church should be entitled to make his own decision as to what he thinks he owes the Lord, and to make payment accordingly." This goes hand in hand with what Robert D. Hales quoted from Handbook 1 in his talk "The divine law of tithing": "The First Presidency has written what the law of tithing is for us today: “The simplest statement we know of is the statement of the Lord himself, namely, that the members of the Church should pay ‘one tenth of all their interest annually,’ which is understood to mean income. No one is justified in making any other statement than this.” (First Presidency letter, 19 March 1970.)" The conclusions: Members are entitled to make their own decision as to what they think they owe the Lord, and to make payment accordingly. No one is justified in making any other statement than the one in the first quote These statements are the newest ones and been repeated ever since. I think though the misunderstanding happened by assuming that I didn't take God into the picture. However, I did say that we should do it by The Spirit of The Lord. In other words, it doesn't mean that whatever we pay in tithing is honest, it means that that it's between you and The Lord with no lifted finger from others. No mortal has the right to say that I have to add $10 extra in tithing to make it right, whether it should be gross or net or what money on my bank account constitutes my income I pesonally think it is really wise how we should let any judgement of our tithing come from God and not man since we mortals tend to become almost like devils when it's about money, especially other people's money
  20. Hi and welcome rustyoz! First of all I feel inspired to give a reminder that tithing is ten percent of one's annual income. How we define income is up to the individual, and even though we can give our personal insights, we are not allowed to instruct others how tithing should be defined beyond this. Now, the questions is, to whom do those money belong to in the first place? This is a really important question, because it's the owner of the money who decides by The Spirit of The Lord what should be defined as income. If I understand this correctly (and let me know if I'm wrong), it's the son who's the owner of the money in the first place. If that's the case, he should prayerfully decide himself whether he considers the money as income or not. Hope that this comment will help in any way
  21. It's quite interesting because Brigham Young's (and Joseph Smith's) descriptions COULD indicate what has been told that heaven for one person would be hell for another (eternal burnings vs fire and brimstone)
  22. Two toughts: 1: being burned alive is one of the most (if not the most) painful way to die. now, doing that in fire and brimstone eternally is quite a strong picture for not being in God's precence. Only one who really despise God would wish for that 2: It's indicated that Gehenna was used as a rubbish heap at the time of jesus. If it's true, a pile of waste burning day and night would make people think twice about risking being compared to that
  23. Usually when I hear people talk about deep doctrines they either refer to: 1: Mormon folklore and conspiracy theories (Cain is Big Foot, Hillary Clinton is the beast from The Book of Revelation) 2: Doctrines or anything religiously related that a person think is too complicated and is put off by it (Jesus is also our father (by covenant), a steel sword was discovered in Jericho) To me, deep doctrine should indicate the richness, the wisdom of the doctrines that has been revealed (don't only forgive seven times but seventy times seven... that one has so many sweet layers)
  24. Vegetales, vegetales and.... vegetales.... Sometimes I wonder if I should've stopped myself in saying "honey, this series with vegetable Bible characters could be good for the toddlers"... now it's like drugs to them