Nordic saint

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    Nordic saint got a reaction from LDSGator in "Protestant Mormons"   
    Protestant Mormons? That's the ones fighting with Catholic Mormons in northern Ireland 🙃
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Carborendum in "Protestant Mormons"   
    Protestant Mormons? That's the ones fighting with Catholic Mormons in northern Ireland 🙃
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Carborendum in Book of Mormon Language   
    Can't really say how they do in other countries, but in Denmark and Sweden the Book of Mormon translation follows the most modern national bible translations. Names change as well according to the Bible translations, for example, Jehova changed to Jahve in the Book of Mormon when it became the new Bible standard
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from laronius in The Millennium   
    "But McConkie seems to be teaching that that time is in no way impacted by the conditions of the world"
    Sounds pretty odd. The parable of the wheat and the tares would strongly indicate that the growing polarization between the gospel and the world is a factor for the second coming
    "Does this imply that some of those who live during the millennium may only inherit the Terrestrial Kingdom because only Telestial law abiders are removed?"
    There will be both celestial and terrestrial inheritors in the millennial kingdom
    "Is this implying that the natural man will not exist within us during the Millennium?"
    Since we who are not dead still have mortal bodies in the millennium, I'm pretty sure the natural man still exists, especially considering there will be a variety of people there. Just a guess, but perhaps people worthy of the celestial and terrestrial kingdom are more resistant to the natural man than telestials when Satan is not there to whisper in their ears?
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from scottyg in The Millennium   
    "But McConkie seems to be teaching that that time is in no way impacted by the conditions of the world"
    Sounds pretty odd. The parable of the wheat and the tares would strongly indicate that the growing polarization between the gospel and the world is a factor for the second coming
    "Does this imply that some of those who live during the millennium may only inherit the Terrestrial Kingdom because only Telestial law abiders are removed?"
    There will be both celestial and terrestrial inheritors in the millennial kingdom
    "Is this implying that the natural man will not exist within us during the Millennium?"
    Since we who are not dead still have mortal bodies in the millennium, I'm pretty sure the natural man still exists, especially considering there will be a variety of people there. Just a guess, but perhaps people worthy of the celestial and terrestrial kingdom are more resistant to the natural man than telestials when Satan is not there to whisper in their ears?
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Traveler in Why the King James Version?   
    I absolutely agree. Even if one bible version is considered more accurate, it's still far from a correct translation of the originals. It's a huge blessing that we have the necessary teachings today despite the attempts to change the scriptures
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Anddenex in Romans 16:7 - Itching Ears   
    I was very confused when I first read that this passage was interpreted as if they were apostles or included in the aposleship.... I would argue that it's one of those passages that shows the limits of the english language and the necessity of critical thinking when reading through the scriptures.
    A direct translation google translate style from the Swedish Bible, 2015 version would be like this:
    Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and fellow prisoners, who are highly esteemed among the apostles and who came to Christ before me
    (The original: Hälsa Andronicus och Junia, mina landsmän och medfångar, som är högt ansedda bland apostlarna och som kom till Kristus före mig)


    Note how it still translates to "among the apostles" if you just google translate it, which is quite interesting. Even though it's how it's translated word for word, it's definitely not how it's commonly interpreted. It would instead be interpreted like like this:
    Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and fellow prisoners, whom the apostles think very highly of, and who came to Christ before me
     
    In short, the apostles thought they were good saints. I tried to look at translations in other nordic languages and other germanic translations, and it's the same there. perhaps you can propably only make "women aposltes" arguments in english
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Vort in Romans 16:7 - Itching Ears   
    I was very confused when I first read that this passage was interpreted as if they were apostles or included in the aposleship.... I would argue that it's one of those passages that shows the limits of the english language and the necessity of critical thinking when reading through the scriptures.
    A direct translation google translate style from the Swedish Bible, 2015 version would be like this:
    Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and fellow prisoners, who are highly esteemed among the apostles and who came to Christ before me
    (The original: Hälsa Andronicus och Junia, mina landsmän och medfångar, som är högt ansedda bland apostlarna och som kom till Kristus före mig)


    Note how it still translates to "among the apostles" if you just google translate it, which is quite interesting. Even though it's how it's translated word for word, it's definitely not how it's commonly interpreted. It would instead be interpreted like like this:
    Greet Andronicus and Junia, my countrymen and fellow prisoners, whom the apostles think very highly of, and who came to Christ before me
     
    In short, the apostles thought they were good saints. I tried to look at translations in other nordic languages and other germanic translations, and it's the same there. perhaps you can propably only make "women aposltes" arguments in english
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Fether in Judgement and attributing motives   
    Well, Joseph Smith did say this:
    "It is better, said Joseph Smith, to feed ten impostors than to run the risk of turning away one honest petition"
    This principle can be applied to not just food but to any judgement we make

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    Nordic saint got a reaction from LDSGator in President Nelson vaccinated   
    Yeah... if the vaccine was so dangerous, God would have stopped the prophet from doing it and even urge others to do so.... I'll get the shot
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Nordic saint reacted to Just_A_Guy in Conference Talks   
    Smackdowns to both the hard left and the hard right; and comeuppance to me over my doom-and-gloomism regarding this country’s future . . .
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Backroads in Boring General Conference   
    General conference is supposed to be relevant for the time, not to please us with deep teachings or things WE think is important... so no, I don't see it as boring but important spiritual instruction/insight
     
    However, general conference has barely begun, we'll see what else is in store for us
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    Nordic saint reacted to Carborendum in Do people's attitudes affect what the Church teaches and how it operates?   
    I think this example is a good discussion point.  I view it as another example of the Samuel Principle.  People mistakenly believe this means that we can "change the mind of God" if we simply complain or disobey enough.
    No.
    All this means is that the Lord recognizes that even if He were to continue commanding us and teaching us, we would still disobey anyway.  So, why continue teaching the truth when we refuse to hear it.  It just places us under greater condemnation.
    Does it make it right?  No.  If it is an eternal principle, it is still wrong no matter what.
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Carborendum in The Beast   
    Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. I do believe that John was referring to Nero but also that the beast and its mark is not just one single person or concept but rather the spirit of it which continues until Jesus says: it is enough. During the ages we have seen rotten leaders who behave just like him, blaming and persecuting the saints or the seekers. A corrupt and tyrannic ruler.
    But I'm just guessing here. sadly, the church anything official about it... which is also why I'm guessing that it at least refers to Nero since he probably wouldn't have spiritual significance to us (maybe)
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Vort in Do people's attitudes affect what the Church teaches and how it operates?   
    Well, the first thing that came to my mind was the Savior's words when He said:
    "Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so"
    So I would say yes, the attitude of the people can affect teachings and operation.... To a certain degree. I don't believe that God surrenders to our opinions and sins and make compromises. However, I do believe that God adapt the church to work so as many as possible can be saved without violating the celestial laws

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    Nordic saint got a reaction from carlimac in President Nelson vaccinated   
    Yeah... if the vaccine was so dangerous, God would have stopped the prophet from doing it and even urge others to do so.... I'll get the shot
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Backroads in President Nelson vaccinated   
    Yeah... if the vaccine was so dangerous, God would have stopped the prophet from doing it and even urge others to do so.... I'll get the shot
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from prisonchaplain in Conference October 3-4, 2020   
    Well, we are discouraged to use the short form LDS. However, when you refer the people themselves, you can definitely say things like "Latter-day saint culture"... it even has lesser syllables than for example "evangelical culture" 😁
    Reference:
    "When referring to Church members, the terms "members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints," "Latter-day Saints,” "members of the Church of Jesus Christ" and "members of the restored Church of Jesus Christ" are preferred. We ask that the term "Mormons" and "LDS" not be used."
    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/style-guide
     
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from JohnsonJones in Milton Berle on US movie ratings   
    Personally I'm very careful about what I watch no matter the rating. I was invited to watch a movie in the cinema with a G rating with my sister, and I thought "well, can't do any harm watching a "childish" movie. Well... It contained sex scenes (and of course, it was adultery just to make it even worse), full body nude scenes and heated up homosexual scenes... Let's just say that I still haven't fully recovered.
     
    Moral of the story: even though this is an extreme case, it shows that just because a movie has a certain label, you never really know if it has been made so that The Lord would approve it. Parental guides and alike are still the best guidelines for whether the movie reflects your standards or not
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Vort in I'm so excited!   
    If I may say, and this is just a guess based on observations..... I think it's because we as a whole have forgotten Him in our doings. When I hear members talk about church stuff, I rarely hear The Lord mentioned. It's more focused on things we do practically like the Word of Wisdom, self reliance, and family history. While these definitely are good things, people outside of the church will not associate us with The Lord if we don't show that we do such things because of Him. think about it, we even got commanded to focus on the church's proper name instead of "Mormons". Plus, since we often have used Moroni as a symbol, quite a few think that we worship angels.
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from NightSG in I'm so excited!   
    If I may say, and this is just a guess based on observations..... I think it's because we as a whole have forgotten Him in our doings. When I hear members talk about church stuff, I rarely hear The Lord mentioned. It's more focused on things we do practically like the Word of Wisdom, self reliance, and family history. While these definitely are good things, people outside of the church will not associate us with The Lord if we don't show that we do such things because of Him. think about it, we even got commanded to focus on the church's proper name instead of "Mormons". Plus, since we often have used Moroni as a symbol, quite a few think that we worship angels.
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in A logical explanation for why Hell is not literally fire and brimstone.   
    Two toughts:
    1:  being burned alive is one of the most (if not the most) painful way to die. now, doing that in fire and brimstone eternally is quite a strong picture for not being in God's precence. Only one who really despise God would wish for that
     
    2:  It's indicated that Gehenna was used as a rubbish heap at the time of jesus. If it's true, a pile of waste burning day and night would make people think twice about risking being compared to that
     
     
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Midwest LDS in A logical explanation for why Hell is not literally fire and brimstone.   
    It's quite interesting because Brigham Young's (and Joseph Smith's) descriptions COULD indicate what has been told that heaven for one person would be hell for another (eternal burnings vs fire and brimstone)
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    Nordic saint reacted to person0 in A logical explanation for why Hell is not literally fire and brimstone.   
    ANSWER:  Because being fully and completely cut off from God and the Light of Christ is already the worst pain and torment that is possible.
    During a sacrament talk today, the speaker was discussing how he explained the plan of salvation to a colleague who asked if Latter-Day Saints believe in Hell.  He did not address this particular issue, but I started pondering on the difference between our understanding of Hell and that of the traditional Christian world.
    I started considering what would be a simple way to explain to someone why it is unnecessary to view Hell as a torment of literal fire and brimstone; this thought is what followed.  It rang very true to me and was, in a way, a small epiphanic moment, so I thought I'd share.
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    Nordic saint got a reaction from Vort in A logical explanation for why Hell is not literally fire and brimstone.   
    It's quite interesting because Brigham Young's (and Joseph Smith's) descriptions COULD indicate what has been told that heaven for one person would be hell for another (eternal burnings vs fire and brimstone)