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Just now, without_you said:
if you're kid is inactive. When he signs up for BYU, he's going to have to accept the policy and honor code of byu.
Honor Code Statement
We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men....If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things. (Thirteenth Article of Faith.)
As a matter of personal commitment, the faculty, administration, staff, and students of Brigham Young University, Brigham Young University-Hawaii, BYU-I, and LDS Business College seek to demonstrate in daily living on and off-campus those moral virtues encompassed in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and will:
- Be honest
- Live a chaste and virtuous life
- Obey the law and all campus policies
- Use clean language
- Respect others
- Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse
- Participate regularly in church services
- Observe Dress and Grooming Standards
- Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code
Specific policies embodied in the Honor Code include (1) the Academic Honesty Policy, (2) the Dress and Grooming Standards, (3) the Residential Living Standards, and (4) the Continuing Student Ecclesiastical Endorsement Requirement. (Refer to institutional policies for more detailed information.)
https://policy.byu.edu/view/index.php?p=26
IF he's inactive, are you sure he can live by those codes if he goes to BYU? If not, but he still goes there...well I'm not to judge but...he has to follow those rules or he will get kicked out!
I'm a BYUI graduate.
College is not worth it nowadays anyway. Send him to a Trade school instead. WELL WORTH IT!
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On 9/3/2019 at 9:12 PM, NordicSisu said:
My high school sr is inactive and doesn't want to go to BYU. It is, however, what we can afford. Have been looking online, it's hard to beat that tuition. Have you found another school that is affordable?
if you're kid is inactive. When he signs up for BYU, he's going to have to accept the policy and honor code of byu.
Honor Code Statement
We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men....If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things. (Thirteenth Article of Faith.)
As a matter of personal commitment, the faculty, administration, staff, and students of Brigham Young University, Brigham Young University-Hawaii, BYU-I, and LDS Business College seek to demonstrate in daily living on and off-campus those moral virtues encompassed in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and will:
- Be honest
- Live a chaste and virtuous life
- Obey the law and all campus policies
- Use clean language
- Respect others
- Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse
- Participate regularly in church services
- Observe Dress and Grooming Standards
- Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code
Specific policies embodied in the Honor Code include (1) the Academic Honesty Policy, (2) the Dress and Grooming Standards, (3) the Residential Living Standards, and (4) the Continuing Student Ecclesiastical Endorsement Requirement. (Refer to institutional policies for more detailed information.)
https://policy.byu.edu/view/index.php?p=26
IF he's inactive, are you sure he can live by those codes if he goes to BYU? If not, but he still goes there...well I'm not to judge but...he has to follow those rules or he will get kicked out!
I'm a BYUI graduate.
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It's not really a good thing to announce this over the internet. This is a perfect example of "Hey, we are sitting ducks", for the potential shooters. Think about it. We should have announced this only for the church goers, we should only announce this secretly among church members. Now, we are sitting ducks. I'm still bringing my smallest piece no matter what, to protect my own family and others of potential dangers anyway.
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I know it's a commandment to "Honor your father and mother", basically parents.
It's just really hard to honor them when they have been missing all my life. It's like they are there but not really there. My father, who was very abusive to me in the past, also threatened our family to leave us to divorce(but never did), who beat up my siblings and me and also was emotionally abusive to us. Everything has calmed down now but time to time, he has his own tantrums. My mom is basically missing on my life. I never had a meaningful conversation with her all my life. It's like we are there but we are so far apart. It hurts so much to know that they just exist and we don't really know each other. I am about to be independent now and moving out, but I feel like this has put a lot of burden in me. I've always wanted a family but they are just not there. We don't talk, we work, come home, do our thing, and when we do talk, we argue....
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On 4/6/2013 at 12:54 AM, kdromrell said:
Just wanted to make you all aware of a new movie coming out. Here is the blurb I got from Excel Entertainment:
Ephraim's Rescue, new movie from the makers of 17 Miracles!
If you liked 17 Miracles, then you're going to love Ephraim's Rescue the all-new pioneer movie hitting theaters on May 31.
Ephraim's Rescue tells the unbelievable true story of Ephraim Hanks, the mountain-man pioneer sent to rescue the Willie and Martin Handcart Companies.
The film opens in theaters across the Western United States on May 31. For a theater near you, stay updated on the facebook page.
I can't wait to watch it!
Do they make they movies in Hollywood?
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Anger is the display of temper. The Lord cautioned His Saints to control their anger (Matt. 5:22). Neither parent nor child should abuse others in the family. In the scriptures, anger often has the figurative image of fire (2 Ne. 15:25; D&C 1:13).
And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell, Gen. 4:5.
The Lord is slow to anger, and of great mercy, Ps. 145:8.
A soft answer turneth away wrath, Prov. 15:1.
I know that not everyone out there is Mormon, and they don't have the same standards as we do. Today, some dude just bullied me because...well racism I guess that's what it was based on all the name calling he called me and all the rude names he said about me. I waited for him to punch me first so I could counter it. That way, I could call it "Counter offense, self defense", and I would be in less trouble with the police and I can explain that to a lawyer, not that I've gotten in trouble before but I know how the law works. I really provoked my bully to hit me. I guess he wanted to but didn't because many people were around. But I am guessing this kind of stuff will happen again sometime, in the future. I don't wanna give in to anger, I have experience in MMA and Muay Boran. We've always been told not to fight outside the ring. There was a quote from a shaolin monk "The way of kung-fu is to avoid all conflicts".
Jesus said to be merciful and love your neighbor?
But what should I do when fists start flying?
What should I do when he attempts to hit me first?
Should I just be passive and run?
If I run, next time he will call me a coward, I've seen this happen on Netflix. Where the bully chases the bullied.
I always ask myself, what would Jesus do? But I'm not Jesus.
Should I defend myself? I couldn't find any doctrine about self-defense...but I know that the Nephites did what they had to do...
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On 3/29/2019 at 11:15 PM, Manners Matter said:
@without_you Since you've already gotten the Church's stance, I'll address some of the other points you brought up.
~ As long as she believes she'll never get married/guys don't like her/etc - she'll be right. She needs to look up some positive affirmations to help change her thinking.
~ She needs to trust the Lord's timing.
~ I know someone who didn't get married till she was 36/38 and started the adoption process thinking that was her best option. She got pregnant and she and hubby are raising 2 girls that are 10 months apart.
~ Have her check her library for "The Wisdom of Your Face" by Jean Haner. (Hint: jowels are known as money bags, thick eyebrows = confidence). Also have her look into Dressing Your Truth (Carol Tuttle - lots of resources for clothes, makeup, hair, accessories, etc). Even if it's just a confidence-booster, that may be just what she needs.
It's nice of you to want to help her and I hope the above will.
Her age and fertility has a lot to do with it. She's getting older and she might reach the age of "not being able to bear children". She worries too much about this and goes to the other option....artifical insemination. She doesn't consider adoption...She wants kids on her own...her own kid from her womb.
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11 hours ago, Vort said:
Are you saying that unmarried adult (not young adult, but post-30s) men in the Church inhabit a buyer's market and have all the fun, while the women are stuck in a high rent/low value vicious cycle? Because I've heard that before, many times, but I have reason to doubt it.
I have had some close friends (men) in that very situation, and their view of things is significantly different from the picture you paint. Just for one example among dozens: One close acquaintance, about my age and a very good-looking guy (at least he was when he was younger), said that every LDS woman he ever dated past the age of 30 tried to get him into bed. Every one, without exception. Think about that. Every. Last. LDS. Woman. Not even the non-member women he dated were as aggressively seductive as the nominally LDS women. And he dated A Lot Of LDS Women, not just six or eight, a significant minority of whom were unmarried mothers of small children.
He said his refusal to get naked with them frustrated them. Sometimes they asked him if he was homosexual; I mean, why else wouldn't he jump at the sweet, sweet goods they were offering? In other cases, the women said how much they admired him for sticking with his principles and how they wish they could marry someone like him. They told him that what they really wanted was for a man to take care of them and treat them well so they could leave the work world and stay at home with their babies (the ones they already had, but also, they quickly assured him, the ones they would produce with him).
This was actually one of his huge pet peeves. He had a small sum of money saved, not a lot but a few thousand. In most cases, the women he dated were not even cash-positive, but deeply in debt. Like to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars (or more), mostly in consumer debt like credit cards. In his view, these women were looking to prostitute themselves into marriage so that someone would pay off their financial obligations. They didn't want a best friend and confidant, or even a mature, stable mate. They wanted a sugar daddy, preferably young and good-looking, but that part was negotiable. The hypocrisy was staggering.
The whole thing soured him on the Church, and eventually on the law of chastity, both of which he finally abandoned in his 40s. I think it's a tragic story that breaks my heart just recounting it.
So then, do I believe that the vast majority of post-30-year-old LDS unmarried women are gold diggers eager to bed their dates? No, I do not. Do I suspect that my friend's personal female preferences influenced him to date LDS women drawn from the pool of women who ARE like that? Yes, I strongly suspect that. But in any case, it sure puts a different face on the whole issue, doesn't it?
I think that anecdotal evidence is great for helping understand specific points of view, but not so great for helping understand large trends or the true lay of the land.
Have you heard about MGTOW? These are one of the reasons LDS men go MGTOW too.
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I just wanted to make sure that what I'm feeling is not just emotions....but actually the Spirit.
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On 4/3/2019 at 1:29 AM, Jane_Doe said:
Totally! The Spirit testifies of Truth, it doesn't matter if the person singing it is XYZ faith-- if it's Truth the Spirit will testify.
I have an entire arsenal of Christian songs from all sorts of genres for all sorts of moods.
Care to share a top ten artists lists? or a top ten song list? :):)😍
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Can church songs and christian rock/music bring the spirit to you?
I was listening to LDS radio on Pandora...and I had a warm feeling of happiness because of the lyrics and melody. The song is: Peace in Christ by McKenna Hixson. I'm wondering if there's a scriptural reference to this? I'm wondering if what I felt was from the Holy Spirit?! I'm just curious! Thank you !
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1 minute ago, anatess2 said:
That doesn't make sense. If you doubt she has time for herself, why would she think she has time for child?
I don't know. Maybe I can convince her to take some time off
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30 minutes ago, Connie said:
A single woman has so many options. There are so many people in this world who are in need of mothering. There are tons of career paths to take such as teaching, daycare, nursing, social work, etc., etc., etc. What is her job? There may be opportunities there to mother. If not, there are so many volunteer opportunities. She could look on justserve.org to find volunteer opportunities in her area.
She's a criminal defense lawyer and holds an associates in Psychology. Sometimes she has too much stuff to do. I'll try to get her involved in this. I highly doubt it she has time for herself though.
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2 minutes ago, estradling75 said:
She can either trust God and his promises... Or she can trust herself.
Plenty of people in this life do not get the blessings that other people might get... It all depends on highly individual circumstances. While desiring the blessings and working for it is very very good... Crossing the line into disobedience and sin to try to get it... is well... crossing the line
Thank you. That was beautiful.
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6 minutes ago, anatess2 said:
It doesn't change the fact that A CHILD DESERVES A MOTHER AND A FATHER. She should not be spreading her misfortune by making innocent victims.
What should I say to her? She keeps bring up that she won't ever get married..She thinks God has cursed her appearance....I'm really trying to help her
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6 minutes ago, anatess2 said:
It doesn't change the fact that A CHILD DESERVES A MOTHER AND A FATHER. She should not be spreading her misfortune by making innocent victims.
Ok, I will tell her that. Thanks
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Just now, anatess2 said:
There is no debate about this. A child deserves a MOTHER and a FATHER under the covenant of MARRIAGE.
A child is not a Barbie Doll.
Yes, but she hasn't been married. What should I say to her when she says: "Guys don't like her and no one wants to marry her". ..Like I try to understand her...and she has so many self-esteem issues because of this. I do admit she's not attractive. I know it's rude but it's just reality. Dating these days is hard. Very hard.
She has tried and tried and tried so many times. She prayed for a good husband.
I think it's wrong....but that might be her only choice?
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My friend, a very close friend, has given up on guys. She's already 34 years old. She wants to inseminate herself from a sperm donor. She's also LDS. I'm very very very against this thing, and I care about her, I've known her for such a looooong time. We are debating over this. I've checked LDS.org, and now I'm looking for advice here. There's absolutely nothing about this on LDS.org. I should check with the Bishop, but first I should check here.
What are your thoughts about this?
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23 hours ago, NightSG said:
Dude's just having a dry spell. Granted, it's a lifelong dry spell so far, but still, there's no need to push him into a coming out party.
I meant girls. not guys. I typed so fast...that I missed that part.
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I know, I have very similar situation to you. There was a sister missionary that I had a crush on and it was very obvious that she liked me back because the first time I met her, we just had chemistry. It was like a "spark". Our conversations went well and such...I added her on facebook a month later after continuously going to church and seeing her and talking about stuff and getting to know her. We had a really good chemistry and I thought it was good because 99% of the time, that never happens to me! I have low self-esteem but this one sister missionary made me feel good about myself. I couldn't say anything to her about my feelings for her because she was always with her co-missionary. So I messaged her on facebook saying I wanted to date her when she's done with her mission..I got a reply...she said: "sorry, I can't answer to anything like this, if I was to say something about my feelings about you, I wouldn't say it because it would be breaking the rules. I just started my mission and I don't think you'd wanna wait a year and 8 months. I am leaving this week to another location. I am so sorry."
I didn't say anything back. Because I knew what kind of trouble she would be in if her superior missionaries or authorities found out...
I know it feels really bad but that's just the way how things are. I do wish you good luck. Believe it or not, I went to BYU-Idaho. and I've heard a lot of true stories that missionaries end up marrying someone they baptized. I had one buddy who served in the Philippines...and he ended up marrying a beautiful filipina from the same region he served in. He baptized her. They have a baby now and still attending college in BYU.
Anything is possible.
But the thing is: missionaries are not allowed to have relationships with anyone while they're on their mission. Being good friends with him might be a good idea. I really can't say....
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I know it's reading scriptures, going to church, attending church activities, praying...but is there another way that's faster?
Also, when I read some scriptures and sometimes watch a general conference. I get that "burning of the bosom" feeling....How do I know that this is real and it's not just my feelings? Emotions are strong, I'm not really sure if what I felt was genuine?
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I read that booK "How not to give an F", it is insightful, obviously, it won't attract LDS readers, but I am very open-minded.
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Thanks for all the advice here people. I'll continue working on myself, read those recommended books, stop being so needy, be grateful, be an active member...etc. I am thinking about going in the Navy or Airforce. As soon as I get my diploma from this internship, I'll go in the military.
If not BYU, then what college to send the kids to?
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