LDSGator

Haley is doomed. Trump is in serious trouble too. You have people like us who usually vote republican looking at other options. Combine that with suburban swing voters who are repulsed by his legal issues and he’s got his work cut out for him. He could still win of course, but if loses again it’s incredibly obvious as to why.

I have a friend who supports that party.

The Solidarity Party, right?

Welcome to my world. I always viewed myself as a Goldwater conservative but now I’m viewed as a “moderate” or “democrat” because, like you, I feel we should support the Ukraine, Israel, etc. And I don’t dig conspiracies or worship god-emperor Trump. Enjoy the ride @prisonchaplain. Develop a thick skin, expect to encounter a TON of hate from Trumpers and enjoy the show. Also, it helps out tremendously to have friends who you can have in depth conversations with. Sadly, a lot of “people you see at church friendships” are a mile wide and inch deep. One disagreement and boom-you never hear from them again As a pastor people depend on you. You need someone to rely on too. Go out and form friendships with people who aren’t like that.

I laugh, but you aren’t wrong. @Phoenix_person-are you suddenly donning a MAGA cap too? 😉

Understand. Those people bother me too when they act like they know everything.

I’ve also heard stories of stupid Americans asking German exchange students what language they speak in….Germany. Or making Nazi comments like it’s the fault of the 15 year old kid who just wants to improve his English skills and make new friends. 😞

That’s true, and I agree with you. With a slight caveat. In huge cities like NYC, Toronto, LA or London you can experience almost every culture known to man in a few square miles. Is it the same as living to Beijing for three years? Of course not. But someone living in Boston/Philly for twenty years and never leaving might be more culturally aware than someone who never left rural Florida. In my limited experience many Americans are clueless about other cultures and grossly overestimate their knowledge. When we’ve hosted Chinese exchange students people stupidly tell us to “take them to grocery stores.” Uh… We point and laugh at them when their backs are turned. Or we make fun of them to their face.

Agree totally with everything you said my friend. One of my favorite things to watch is when the hard right and hard left call one another snowflakes with no sense of irony.

I totally agree with you, and to me that’s more evidence that the extremes of both sides are filled with the same types of people.

So sorry about your friend. That’s an awful burden to carry. Hope she found peace.

Welcome to the forums. Excellent summary

I don’t know why that happens, but I do think the extremes are flooded with people who genuinely like hating others. Politics gives them an outlet for it.

Hillary and Biden are viewed by leftists the same way Romney and Susan Collins are viewed by conservatives. In fact, I think the extremes of the party hate “moderates” in their own party more than they hate the opposing side!

Yeah, I see it totally differently. If Biden loses left wingers will take it as a reason to strike back-only because Trumpers started it and did it first. So even if they don’t like Biden-and you are right, they don’t, the hard left (Antifa, BLM) loves to riot and destroy stuff so they’ll align with Biden simply because the enemy of their enemy is a friend. And, they’ll look for any reason to do what the J6th crowd did. Any reason. Including Biden losing. They’ll rally around him. I can’t wait to watch the j6 crowd talk about respecting law and order, the constitution, democracy, etc. It’s going to be delicious.

@JohnsonJones-I think part of it is that humans are hardwired to complain. It takes an effort to rewire your mind and not do so. Most people simply aren’t up to that task. It’s too much for them.

I totally agree with you.

Yup. I’ve seen children lose in TKD and handle it better than grown adults do. Ironically, these adults almost always are the first ones to whine about “kids today” with no sense of irony. It’s astounding!

Same. I get a giddy little buzz being called a “shill for the right” by liberals and an “urban elitist” or “sheer evil” by conservatives. Seriously, I absolutely love it.

Down here everyone is very casual as well. If you want to see people wearing suits you have to go to a car dealership or downtown Tampa on a workday. Even then, they stick out big time. This isn’t Manhattan or DC where it seems that everyone wears a suit seven days a week.

I also think Biden supporters will claim some giant conspiracy if he loses. His supporters might also have a temper tantrum and pull a Jan 6th, and why not? After all, Trump supporters did the same so it’s only fair to throw an elbow if your opponent throws one first.

That, and Trump is chasing away a lot of people who consistently vote republican because of his legal problems. I predict two things will happen. Trump will probably, but not certainly lose, and his followers/disciples/acolytes/viceroys will jump up and down, complain about fraud and probably do a Jan 6th sequel. His zealots are unable to grasp that a large portion of the voting public simply don’t want him as president. They grossly overestimate their size because they (generally speaking) surround themselves with people who only agree with them. Which is the easiest way to delude yourself. It’s amusing and scary how devoted these people are to him. What I can’t figure out is if they hate liberalism more than they love Trump or if it’s really hero worship.

You and I have posted this one so much that it should be the anthem here.

Happy birthday @mirkwood!

You lost in Scrabble, multiple times, to a degenerate Kiss fan. let that sink in.