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    Dravin got a reaction from ztodd in Am I Justified to Leave for Lack of Love?   
    Is the use of love in the title euphemistic? Or do you have a two-pronged issue? A lack of love and a lack of sex?
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    Dravin got a reaction from auzziegirl in Girl Scouts and Young Women?   
    Your post gave no indication that your daughter is wondering why she can't be a Girl Scout as part of Church.
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    Dravin got a reaction from Vort in I need help with some doctrinal understanding   
    With respect to #3: I think a fundamental hinge-pin in the thinking of people being able to 'enjoy' sin and then repent later only really holds up if one believes there aren't benefits to living the higher law in this life. If all benefits are deferred, sure then the idea that, "They get to live it up, or at least live it easier and then get access to the same pension plan. That's so not fair!*" floats. If one believes there are benefits to living the gospel today then they are missing out, and the Church most definitely teaches that there are benefits of living the gospel today, that puts some holes in the boat.
     
    *You don't want fair. It isn't fair that Christ paid for your sins. If you could magically flip a switch so that everything was fair, make sure you're prepared to enjoy hell.
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    Dravin got a reaction from Urstadt in Did Jesus create the destructive elements of the earth, too?   
    I suspect it stems from the the perception of God as being omnibenevolent in terms such as one sees in discussions of "the problem of evil." Note, I'm not arguing that said perception is correct, simply pointing to said perception as the basis of the assumption that he'd not create anything destructive or harmful.
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    Dravin got a reaction from Leah in Smithmas   
    Sure... it's simply because of it's proximity to Christmas. It's in no way an attempt to insinuate:
     
     
    I'll buy its simply due to the proximity to Christmas just like I'll buy someone dressed in a confederate flag trying to explain their calling a grown black man, "Boy." because, "He looks kinda young."
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    Dravin got a reaction from Vort in Smithmas   
    Sure... it's simply because of it's proximity to Christmas. It's in no way an attempt to insinuate:
     
     
    I'll buy its simply due to the proximity to Christmas just like I'll buy someone dressed in a confederate flag trying to explain their calling a grown black man, "Boy." because, "He looks kinda young."
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    Dravin got a reaction from jerome1232 in Smithmas   
    I'm liking this use of the suffix -mas to indicate a recognized birthday. Who is up for celebrating Kingmas with me this upcoming January 19th? If that goes over well I propose we also celebrate Washingtonmas on February 16th.
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    Dravin reacted to mordorbund in Houston mayor bullying Christian pastors over sermons on homosexuality   
    Mayor: PC, I know you say you were compliant but the sermons you faxed my office are complete gibberish.
    PrisonChaplain: Not gibberish, tongues. If you had been there you would understand.
    Mayor:....
    PC: Maybe next week then? If you don't want to come to the chapel, I can always visit you at other venues.
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    Dravin reacted to Just_A_Guy in Official church resources for those who have doubts?   
    Ah, I see you learned them from J. Golden Kimball as well. 
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    Dravin got a reaction from ztodd in Official church resources for those who have doubts?   
    Yep. Honest Abe, George Washington and the Cherry Tree, Pilgrims, Thanksgiving, the Noble Savage, and so on and so on. I think the thing that makes the destruction of the mythical conception of Church history difficult for some people is that for things like the Book of Mormon or Bible all that has survived is the myth*. So it's a bit of a disconnect when one portion of religious history is treated to the lens of reality. All we can know is Nephi the Prophet whereas the records exist to learn about Joseph Smith the Human, and the contrast can be startling if you aren't prepared for it.
     
    *I use this in the more academic sense of a traditional story meant to teach/explain, not in the sense of myth = falsehood.
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    Dravin got a reaction from MarginOfError in Official church resources for those who have doubts?   
    Yep. Honest Abe, George Washington and the Cherry Tree, Pilgrims, Thanksgiving, the Noble Savage, and so on and so on. I think the thing that makes the destruction of the mythical conception of Church history difficult for some people is that for things like the Book of Mormon or Bible all that has survived is the myth*. So it's a bit of a disconnect when one portion of religious history is treated to the lens of reality. All we can know is Nephi the Prophet whereas the records exist to learn about Joseph Smith the Human, and the contrast can be startling if you aren't prepared for it.
     
    *I use this in the more academic sense of a traditional story meant to teach/explain, not in the sense of myth = falsehood.
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    Dravin got a reaction from Sunday21 in How to respond   
    You could always scream at the top of your lungs, "Stop judging me!" and storm out of the room. The questions are sure to stop... of course other ones would probably start.
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    Dravin got a reaction from Just_A_Guy in How to respond   
    You could always scream at the top of your lungs, "Stop judging me!" and storm out of the room. The questions are sure to stop... of course other ones would probably start.
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    Dravin got a reaction from Backroads in How to respond   
    You could always scream at the top of your lungs, "Stop judging me!" and storm out of the room. The questions are sure to stop... of course other ones would probably start.
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    Dravin got a reaction from Windseeker in Stuck in between a rock and a hard place.   
    Threatening huh? That's a healthy relationship dynamic.
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    Dravin got a reaction from mordorbund in Am I Justified to Leave for Lack of Love?   
    Is the use of love in the title euphemistic? Or do you have a two-pronged issue? A lack of love and a lack of sex?
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    Dravin reacted to MarginOfError in The happiest state is......   
    This is honestly one of the most terrifying sentences I've ever read.
     
     
    Am I the only one that sees the contradiction in "taking a study with a grain of salt" and then in the next sentence-literally- making a sure statement?
     
    But let me make this perfectly clear to you: 
     
    If you are going to use the Wallethub study to imply that "maybe the members of the church could learn a thing or two from these 'Utah Mormons.'" (presumably, leading to happier living), then by the same logic, you must accept that the implication that learning a thing or two about Utah Mormons will lead to higher anti-depressant use, higher suicide, and higher pornography consumption (though with fewer page views per visit).  
     
    I don't personally agree with any of those things.  But if you are going to accept any one of those implications, then all of the others follow by the same logic.  It's entirely up to you whether you want to apply that logic or not.
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    Dravin got a reaction from mordorbund in The happiest state is......   
    How fitting, we're greeted with a straw man on the first of October.
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    Dravin got a reaction from MarginOfError in The happiest state is......   
    How fitting, we're greeted with a straw man on the first of October.
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    Dravin reacted to MarginOfError in The happiest state is......   
    That is completely irrelevant to any of the comments I've made up to this point.
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    Dravin reacted to jerome1232 in BYU students protesting no-beard policy   
    Protesting the Lord is one thing, protesting silly BYU policies however I fully endorse.
    Beardism must die! (I'm only 1/4 joking, it's rediculous that a man must be clean shaven to be professional, at least here on the west coast, it's also becoming a forgotten relic of the counter-counter-culture movement)
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    Dravin reacted to MrShorty in BYU students protesting no-beard policy   
    Yes, BYU has a code. However, the particular part under consideration here (men must by clean shaven) was certainly not part of the code since the beginning (late 19th century). I'm not certain of the history of the dress and grooming standards, but my impression is they started somewhere in the mid 20th century (the article claims '70's), probably in response to the "hippie" movement and similar cultural/political forces of those decades.
     
    IMO, the link between long hair and beards that was present during this era is mostly faded. As  BYU alumnus who works with many professionals who choose to wear beards, I think it is well within these students' rights to ask the administration to reconsider a cultural policy for which the cultural motivation has faded into the sunset.
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    Dravin reacted to lds2 in Be Not Afraid 2014   
    One Sunday morning I participated in a lesson on the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. In it we discussed the prophecies of Joel wherein he said the sun would be darkened and the moon turned to blood and we wondered what that might look like when it happens. I vaguely recalled another discussion regarding this prophecy and after searching found President Hinckley’s talk entitled “Living in the Fulness of Times” (given shortly after 9/11.) He said that this vision, along with the words of Malachi have been fulfilled, “The vision of Joel has been fulfilled wherein he declared: ‘And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come…’ (Joel 2:28–32).”[1] Knowing that the prophecy of Joel has been fulfilled causes me to wonder where we are in time? What we do know is that we are most certainly in His time for “hastening.”  (D&C 88:73 and Isaiah 60:22 JST) So I also wonder, what are we hastening for?
     
    When I picture “pillars of smoke” I think of the burning twin towers. Whether that was a part of the literal fulfillment of Joel’s prophecy I don’t know, but what we do know is that the Lord uses signs, His holy days, and symbols in His works. Seven for instance is used throughout God’s dealings with His covenant people, i.e. there were seven days in the week and seven feast days in the year, etc. Jesus Christ in his first coming fulfilled the first four of His holy or feast days. On 22 September, 1827, on the fifth feast day of the year or Feast of Trumpets, Joseph Smith received the gold plates from the Angel Moroni… this day on the Hebrew calendar traditionally begins the final ingathering or harvest.[2]
     
    In this century we are also seeing amazing occurrences. Traditionally, at the end of every seven years or sabbatical week, on the last day of that year or 29 Elul was the Shmita when all debts were to be forgiven. It does not seem coincidental then that shortly after 9/11 on 29 Elul, 2001, there was a great stock market crash, then seven years later on 29 Elul, 2008, there was an even greater stock market crash. The evening of 29 Elul, 2015, is the next Shmita and that evening will be the beginning of the Feast of Trumpets (that night will also be one of the six eclipses that are occurring on significant Jewish days in 2014 and 2015. We are currently in the midst of a blood moon tetrad on His holy days. Similar blood moon tetrads were seen when Israel became a nation and again when Jerusalem became part of Israel. Additionally, there are two solar eclipses on significant days and a supermoon as well on the final lunar eclipse of the tetrad.)
     
    Elder Henry B. Eyring once said, “Because the Lord is kind, He calls servants to warn people of danger. That call to warn is made harder and more important by the fact that the warnings of most worth are about dangers that people don’t yet think are real…Here is the charge given to each of the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: ‘Behold, I sent you out to testify and warn the people, and it becometh every man who hath been warned to warn his neighbor.’”[3]
     
    Some friends have said that the brethren are no longer warning us so that must mean that nothing significant will happen in our lifetimes, and they mention how Elder Packer said we don’t have to worry about bad things happening until our grandchildren or great-grandchildren’s time. Personally, I think they misunderstood as what he actually said was quite different…although he did give wonderful hope and promises speaking to the youth! He said we shouldn’t think that, “The way things are going, the world’s going to be over with. The end of the world is going to come before I get to where I should be.” He then promised, “You can look forward to doing it right—getting married, having a family, seeing your children and grandchildren, maybe even great-grandchildren. If you will follow these principles, you will be watched over and protected and you yourself will know by the promptings of the Holy Ghost which way to go..."” He didn’t promise that our lives would be non-eventful or easy; he promised that we can be watched over and protected as we live righteously and learn to follow the Spirit.[4]
     
    Just two years prior in 2009 President Packer said, “Your generation is filled with uncertainties. A life of fun and games and expensive toys has come to an abrupt end. We move from a generation of ease and entertainment to a generation of hard work and responsibility. We do not know how long that will last...the future will hold trials and difficulties for you...However, fear is the opposite of faith. Do not be afraid! I do not fear.”[5]
     
    It seems many people are confused and don’t realize that the Second Coming is a progressive event with multiple appearances of Jesus Christ before He comes in glory at the “end of the world”[6]…many of His prophesied events are likely to happen long before His final appearance in glory.
     
    I do watch the brethren warning us to become more self-reliant, to prepare for future calamities and to learn to follow the Spirit. Most recently President Monson asked, “Are we prepared for the emergencies in our lives? Are our skills perfected? Do we live providently? Do we have our reserve supply on hand? Are we obedient to the commandments of God? Are we responsive to the teachings of prophets? Are we prepared to give of our substance to the poor, the needy? Are we square with the Lord? We live in turbulent times. Often the future is unknown; therefore, it behooves us to prepare for uncertainties. When the time for decision arrives, the time for preparation is past.”[7]  President Uchtdorf explained, "Like two sides of a coin, the temporal and spiritual are inseparable. The Giver of all life has proclaimed, ‘All things unto me are spiritual, and not at any time have I given unto you a law which was temporal.’”[8]
     
    President Eyring said that when the brethren quote other prophets or repeat themselves we should give particular heed to their messages.[9] So I paid special attention when President Monson quoted another prophet, "Said President Benson: ‘In all ages, prophets have looked down through the corridors of time to our day. Billions of the deceased and those yet to be born have their eyes on us. Make no mistake about it—you are a marked generation…For nearly six thousand years, God has held you in reserve to make your appearance in the final days before the second coming of the Lord. Some individuals will fall away, but the kingdom of God will remain intact to welcome the return of its Head—even Jesus Christ…While this generation will be comparable in wickedness to the days of Noah, when the Lord cleansed the earth by flood, there is a major difference this time: [it is that] God has saved for the final inning some of His strongest…children, who will help bear off the kingdom triumphantly.’”[10] President Benson then said this prophetic statement, “And that is where you come in, for you are the generation that must be prepared to meet your God."[11]
     
    We are instructed to “watch” in these last days “with all perseverance” and we should do it with faith…not fear. Elder Bednar gave us this guidance, "Now brothers and sisters, these teachings from modern and ancient prophets about latter-day tests and trials are sobering and solemn. But they should not be discouraging, and we should not be afraid. For those with eyes to see and ears to hear, spiritual warnings lead to increasingly vigilant watching. You and I live in ‘a day of warning’ (D&C 63:58). And because we have been and will be warned, we need to be, as the Apostle Paul admonished, ‘watching … with all perseverance’ (Ephesians 6:18). As we watch and prepare, truly we have no need to fear (see D&C 38:30).”[12]
     
    We truly have no need to fear as our prophet President Thomas S. Monson assured us, “The world seems to have slipped from the moorings of safety and drifted from the harbor of peace…My counsel…is to look to the lighthouse of the Lord. There is no fog so dense, no night so dark, no gale so strong, no mariner so lost but what its beacon light can rescue. It beckons through the storms of life...”[13]
     
    Sometimes it is hard to keep watching though, President Kimball in his book, "Faith Precedes the Miracle" talked about us when he said, “I believe that the Ten Virgins represent the people of the Church of Jesus Christ…The wise had to go; else the bridegroom would have gone unwelcomed.”[14]
     
    Starting in 1998 President Hinckley talked of Pharaoh’s dream and warned of an approaching storm, “There is a portent of stormy weather ahead to which we had better give heed...That’s all I have to say about it, but I wish to say it with all the emphasis of which I am capable.”[15] Then he referenced Pharaoh’s dream after the 9/11 attacks, “I wish to remind you of the warnings of scripture and the teachings of the prophets which we have had constantly before us. I cannot forget the great lesson of Pharaoh’s dream of the fat and lean kine and of the full and withered stalks of corn. I cannot dismiss from my mind the grim warnings of the Lord as set forth in the 24th chapter of Matthew…the time will come when the earth will be cleansed and there will be indescribable distress, with weeping and mourning and lamentation (see D&C 112:24).”[16] Then in 2005, “What [calamities] we have experienced in the past was all foretold, and the end is not yet…What do we do?...We can heed warnings…the best storehouse is the family storeroom. In words of revelation the Lord has said, ‘Organize yourselves; prepare every needful thing’ (D&C 109:8)…Let us never lose sight of the dream of Pharaoh concerning the fat cattle and the lean, the full ears of corn and the blasted ears, the meaning of which was interpreted by Joseph to indicate years of plenty and years of scarcity.”[17]
     
    President Benson said, “What are some of the calamities for which we are to prepare?...’a great hailstorm sent forth to destroy the crops of the earth’…’an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land’… ‘wars upon the face of the earth’... ‘famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes.’ The Lord declared that these and other calamities shall occur. These particular prophecies seem not to be conditional. The Lord, with his foreknowledge, knows that they will happen.”[18] Also, if you have been watching you will have heard of “record breaking” heat, droughts, floods, freezes, winter storms, failed crops and farms, high food prices, insect, rodent and other plagues, high transportation costs, volcanic ash,  new and changing diseases, etc.
     
    Many believe that the government will provide if there is a calamity, but the United States government stopped storing emergency food for its citizens years ago. Others believe that the Church will provide, yet President Faust said, "The Church cannot be expected to provide for every one of its millions of members in case of public or personal disaster.”[19] Bishop Victor L. Brown said, “Many of our members appear to feel that when difficulty comes, the Church will come to their aid, even when they could have prepared themselves had their priorities been appropriate…It is the opinion of many that more difficult times lie ahead.”[20] In order to feed the members of the Church “longer-term supply” bare survival rations for one year it would currently require more than 5 BILLION pounds of grains and legumes.
     
    Difficult times for many are here. A friend in Northern Utah was called as the ward employment specialist in his ward when there were two men who were chronically unemployed, two weeks later there were 11 families experiencing unemployment. Last we talked, he reported there were 56 members in his ward needing employment. Our prophet President Thomas S. Monson more than once has said that, "Many more people could ride out the storm-tossed waves in their economic lives if they had their year's supply of food and clothing and were debt-free. Today we find that many have followed this counsel in reverse: they have at least a year's supply of debt and are food-free."[21] President Ezra Taft Benson also warned of difficult days ahead, he said, “Too often we bask in our comfortable complacency and rationalize that the ravages of war, economic disaster, famine, and earthquake cannot happen here. Those who believe this are either not acquainted with the revelations of the Lord, or they do not believe them.”[22]
     
    The First Presidency proclaimed to the world in, “The Family: A Proclamation to the World,” “By divine design, fathers are…responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families.”[23] 
     
    So what is our responsibility, what are we to gather? Providentliving.org says to gather a three-month supply of foods that we normally eat and a supply of water. We should gather a longer-term supply of grains and beans (as well as a financial reserve where possible.) What is meant by “longer-term” is left between us and the Lord. Currently a year supply of grains and beans could cost $265 (12 starter kits, 28 lbs. each) It is recommended to store at least 25 lbs. of grains and 5 lbs. of beans per month per person according to their food calculator. They also recommend that you…add other items to your longer-term home storage such as sugar, nonfat dry milk, salt, baking soda, and cooking oil…[and] foods containing Vitamin C and other essential nutrients." [Providentliving.org]
     
    A lot of people think if the government and church can’t feed their family they can turn to their neighbors, but a days “ration” would be 1/3 cup beans and 2 cups grains…before dividing it with you. Those prepared few that I have talked to with food storage say they are concerned for their numerous extended family members who have said they “know where to go when things get bad.” If your emergency survival plan is that others will feed you, you need a new plan!
     
    Many believe that it is pointless to store food since it would be gone so quickly…to them it seems better to continue on and use their money to “eat, drink and be merry” as much as they can, while they can. The reason I would give to prepare is probably different from most others. I believe we should prepare because Heavenly Father has lovingly commanded us to do so. Being obedient to the commandment to prepare may be one of those irrevocable laws upon which future blessings are predicated. In 2007 Bishop McMullin advised us to, “Be faithful. Unencumber your life. Lay up in store…As we do our very best, we can be confident that ‘the barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail.’ We shall enjoy greater wisdom, security, peace of mind, and personal well-being. We shall be prepared, and because we are prepared, we ‘shall not fear.’”[24] These are wonderful blessings!
     
    President Eyring counseled us, “Another fallacy is to believe that the choice to accept or not accept the counsel of prophets is no more than deciding whether to accept good advice and gain its benefits or to stay where we are. But the choice not to take prophetic counsel changes the very ground upon which we stand. That ground becomes more dangerous. The failure to take prophetic counsel lessens our power to take inspired counsel in the future. The best time to have decided to help Noah build the ark was the first time he asked. Each time he asked after that, each failure to respond would have lessened sensitivity to the Spirit. And so each time his request would have seemed more foolish, until the rain came. And then it was too late.”[9]
     
    How foolish do people who store food for calamities seem to you? Pres. Benson said, “The revelation to produce and store food may be as essential to our temporal welfare today as boarding the ark was to the people in the days of Noah.”[22] The door of the ark was shut to those seeking entrance once the rains began, the door was also closed to the five foolish virgins. So…if doors were “shut” in the future would you be safely locked in? or would you be locked out? For instance if there were a pandemic such as the 1918 flu, you might be shut in with your family for three months or more. At the government pandemic flu site it says, “In an affected community, at least two pandemic disease waves (about 6-8 weeks each) are likely over several months.”[25]
     
    Please consider buying insurance for your family…famine insurance. It only takes hours to clean out grocery stores’ shelves when disasters are imminent…unfortunately we don’t always get advanced warning. Also, roads can be impassible, fuel can run out, truckers can strike, foods can be out-of-stock, power outages or bank or card issues can make it impossible to pay. Many say that they will just grow their own food or buy from farmers. Yet in many places the only local crop is hay and we can’t count on all calamities happening during the harvest. It takes knowledge, good soil/land, water, fertilizer, seed, the right season, a lot of ground, and often many months of work, good weather, water and waiting before you can harvest your own food to last the winter, then you have to be able to adequately store it for the long term, etc. Now is the time during this time of abundance to gather in what might be needed…just in case…
     
    A major change in what we should store occurred when a pamphlet, “All Is Safely Gathered In,” was distributed. It was first talked about by the Presiding Bishopric, then it was handed out to the Bishop’s to distribute to all the families in their wards, and later was included in the Ensign. It seems that it is important counsel meant for us to read and follow:
     
    “Message from the First Presidency
     
    Dear Brothers and Sisters:
     
    Our Heavenly Father created this beautiful earth, with all its abundance, for our benefit and use. His purpose is to provide for our needs as we walk in faith and obedience. He has lovingly commanded us to "prepare every needful thing" (see D&C 109) so that, should adversity come, we may care for ourselves and our neighbors and support bishops as they care for others.
     
    We encourage Church members worldwide to prepare for adversity in life by having a basic supply of food and water and some money in savings.
     
    We ask that you be wise as you store food and water and build your savings. Do not go to extremes; it is not prudent, for example, to go into debt to establish your food storage all at once. With careful planning, you can, over time, establish a home storage supply and a financial reserve.
     
    We realize that some of you may not have financial resources or space for such storage. Some of you may be prohibited by law from storing large amounts of food. We encourage you to store as much as circumstances allow.
     
    May the Lord bless you in your home storage efforts. “[26]
     
    May the Lord bless all of us in the days ahead! I would like to add my voice to others…I know that we are living in the fullness of times when Heavenly Father has commanded us to prepare every needful thing because he loves us (D&C 109:8). We must, “Believe on the name of the Lord Jesus, who was on the earth, and is to come, the beginning and the end…Behold, I am Jesus Christ, and I come quickly…” (D&C 49: 12, 28).
     
    Brothers and Sisters, the Lord sent us down in this blessed but difficult dispensation for a purpose and He has a plan for us. Continuing the quote by President Benson, that was begun by President Monson, he told us, “…God has saved for the final inning some of his strongest children, who will help bear off the Kingdom triumphantly. And that is where you come in, for you are the generation that must be prepared to meet your God…Make no mistake about it--you are a marked generation. There has never been more expected of the faithful in such a short period of time as there is of us. Never before on the face of this earth have the forces of evil and the forces of good been as well organized…The final outcome is certain--the forces of righteousness will finally win. What remains to be seen is where each of us personally, now and in the future, will stand in this fight--and how tall we will stand. Will we be true to our last-days, foreordained mission?[11]
     
    Fortunately, we have been prepared to meet the challenges of our day. President Monson said, "My brothers and sisters, He has prepared us. If we heed His words and live the commandments, we will survive this time…He is ever mindful of us. He loves us and will bless us as we do what is right."[27] While President Monson was talking of spiritual survival, the example he used was of how the Lord prepared a way for the physical survival of his people. In it we are assured that if we heed His words and live the commandments we will be blessed. Heavenly Father does love us, and He has lovingly commanded us to prepare every needful thing. May the Lord watch over us, direct us, guide us and bless us with His miracles as we do our very best to do so.
     
    1) Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley, “Living in the Fulness of Times,” Ensign, Nov. 2001
    2) Lenet Hadley Read, "The Golden Plates and the Feast of Trumpets," Ensign, Jan. 2000
    3) Pres. Henry B. Eyring, “Let Us Raise A Voice of Warning,” Ensign, Nov. 1998 and Jan. 2009
    4) Pres. Boyd K. Packer, “Counsel to Youth," Ensign, Nov 2011
    5) Pres. Boyd K. Packer, “Counsel to Young Men,” Ensign, May 2009
    6) Pres. Ezra Taft Benson, “Prepare Yourselves for the Great Day of the Lord,” BYU Devotional, April 1981
    7) Pres. Thomas S. Monson, “Are We Prepared?,” Ensign, Sep. 2014
    8) Pres. Dieter F. Uchtdorf, “Providing in the Lord’s Way,” Ensign, Nov. 2011
    9) Pres. Henry B. Eyring, “Finding Safety in Counsel,” Ensign, April 1997 and June 2008
    10) Pres. Thomas S. Monson, “Dare to Stand Alone,” Ensign, Nov. 2011
    11) Pres. Ezra Taft Benson, “In His Steps,” CES Fireside, Feb. 8, 1987; “In His Steps,” BYU Devotional 1979
    12) Elder David A. Bednar, “Who’s on the Lord’s Side? Now is the Time to Show,” BYU-I Education Week Address, July 2010
    13) Pres. Thomas S. Monson, “A Word at Closing,” Ensign, April 2010
    14) Pres. Spencer W. Kimball, “Faith Precedes the Miracle,” pg. 253
    15) Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley, “To the Boys and Men,” Ensign, Nov. 1998
    16) Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley, “The Times in Which We Live,” Ensign, Nov. 2001
    17) Pres. Gordon B. Hinckley, “If Ye Are Prepared Ye Shall Not Fear,” Ensign, Nov. 2005
    18) Pres. Ezra Taft Benson, “Prepare Ye,” Ensign, Jan. 1974
    19) Pres. James E. Faust, “The Responsibility for Welfare Rests with Me and My Family,” Ensign, May 1986
    20) Bishop Victor L. Brown, “Prepare Every Needful Thing,” Ensign, Nov. 1980
    21) Pres. Thomas S. Monson, “That Noble Gift – Love At Home, May 2001
    22) Pres. Ezra Taft Benson, “Prepare for the Days of Tribulation,” Ensign, Nov. 1980
    23) The First Presidency and the Council of the Twelve Apostles, “The Family: A Proclamation to the World,” read by President Gordon B. Hinckley, Sep. 23, 1995
    24) Bishop Keith B. McMullin, “Lay Up In Store,” Ensign, May 2007
    25) “School District (K-12) Pandemic Influenza Planning Checklist,” Flu.gov
    26) First Presidency, “All is Safely Gathered In, Family Home Storage,” Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, 2007
    27) Pres. Thomas S. Monson, “Closing Remarks,” Ensign, Nov. 2009
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    Dravin reacted to MarginOfError in No Sectarian Books in Public School Libraries???   
    I'm as much of a secularist as you're likely to find.  But secularism isn't supposed to be about removing religion from public existence.  It's supposed to be about preventing public authority from giving favorable treatment to one brand of religion.  If you want to dilute the influence of Christianity in your school libraries, add books that illustrate the religious experience of other religions to the shelves.  As a friend said in Sacrament meeting a few weeks ago, the solution is always more knowledge.  it is never less knowledge.
     
    This action is  just plain stupid.
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    Dravin reacted to MarginOfError in A person cannot be happy without....   
    I have no doubt that our interpretations of life are universes apart.  What you fail to realize is that this is not a matter of education, but a matter of empathy.  That is, the ability to perceive the world through someone else's interpretation of reality.