Still_Small_Voice
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On 4/4/2024 at 8:00 PM, Suzie said:
Hi! Do you have a source for this? As far as I know, he finished the translation on July 1833 and was ready to go press a short time after that.
Hi again Suzie. I was looking through my spiritual journal recently and also discovered this:
“The reason why the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has not published the entire [Inspired Version Bible] manuscript is not due to any lack of confidence in the integrity of Joseph Smith, or doubt as to the correctness of the numerous additions and changes which are not in the Authorized Version of the Bible. The members of the Church do accept fully all of these (changes) as having come by divine revelations of the Prophet Joseph Smith.
The reason that is has not been published by the Church is due to the fact that this revision was not completed. It was the intention of Joseph Smith, while at Nauvoo, to take the scriptures up again and complete his labors, making numerous corrections which had not been made by him in the earlier revision. Due to persecution and mobbing this opportunity never came, so that the manuscript was left with only a partial revision” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Selections from Answers to Gospel Questions: A Course of Study for the Melchizedek Priesthood Quorum 1972-73, page 312).
Why doesn’t the current Latter Day Saint leadership, who possess priesthood keys and serve as God’s mouthpiece upon the earth—finish the work themselves? Bruce McConkie wrote that “up to the present time none of his successors have been directed by the Lord to carry the work forth to its final fruition” (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, page 383). However, he promised, “There will be a not too distant day when all necessary changes shall be made in the Bible, and the Inspired Version — as then perfected — shall go forth to the world” (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, page 384).
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Listening to Elder Holland's talk, I wonder how much longer he will be with us. His mortal years may be nearing an end.
I doubt I have more than 35 years left in my life before I pass on to the spirit world. Hopefully I can join the saints and prophets in paradise to sing praises to the Holy LORD God.
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On 3/27/2024 at 10:31 AM, Carborendum said:
Some people wonder why the three degrees were not preached in earlier dispensations.
Perhaps it was taught earlier but the truths were forgotten when an era of apostasy came. The Apostle Paul knew of the three heavens as he specifically mentioned it in the second epistle to the Corinthians chapter 12.
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I have read through the Inspired Version of the Bible. It is obvious to me Suzie, that the Inspired Version was never completed. But I rejoice in what the LORD did give us through the Prophet Joseph Smith.
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There are some General Authorities that taught there is no progression between the kingdoms of glory. There are others that did teach there was progression between the kingdoms. There has been nothing revealed on this subject as doctrine. It is dangerous to teach that something is a truth when we just do not know. I personally assume there is no progression between the kingdoms of glory because if I am wrong then it does not matter. But if someone is continuing in sin, believing that they can just fix their salvation in the next life, they may be setting themselves up for eternal damnation.
There are many scriptures warning everyone to not procrastinate the day of their repentance. Begin today to follow the LORD and do what He would have you do.
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On 3/30/2024 at 4:26 PM, Carborendum said:
Why didn't you ask about Pinochle? I said shoot the moon.
You can shoot the moon in the card game Hearts too. You can also shoot the Sun in that game.
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On 4/4/2024 at 8:00 PM, Suzie said:
Hi! Do you have a source for this? As far as I know, he finished the translation on July 1833 and was ready to go press a short time after that.
According to a conversation held in the Salt Lake City School of the Prophet’s 1868, “George A, Smith testified that he had hear Joseph Smith say before his death that the new translation [Inspired Version of the Bible] was not complete, that he had not been able to prepare it, and that it was probably providentially so.”
Read more at: https://rsc.byu.edu/joseph-smith-translation/joseph-smiths-translation-bible
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On 6/21/2019 at 9:08 AM, Queolby said:
Thom Wayment discovered that Joseph was never commanded to translate the Bible and he never said that he was translating the original text. In fact, Wayment said that Joseph used a study guide to help him. The RLDS, who owns the Joseph Smith translation of the Bible, made it a big deal. Here is an interview with Thom Wayment on Gospel Tangents.
Joseph Smith was commanded to translate different parts of the Bible. The Pearl of Great Price contains some passages of the Inspired Version of the Bible. Some of the translation was restoration of old scripture and some of it was inspired additions.
Read more about it here:
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Thanks CV75 for the information. It had been about five years ago when I posted that so I forgot.
Reading through the other comments on the previous posts it appears there is no answer for me. It will be one of those questions I will need to wait to find until later.
Edit: Pondering over this I believe I found the answer. In 1979 the Re-Organized Church of Jesus Christ gave the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints permission to use the Inspired Version of the Bible. We put it into our King James Version Latter-Day Saint scriptures in the margins and into other extra study material in our Bibles around this time. The information I have been discussing probably was omitted by accident and so it is not in our scriptures.
The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible (Inspired Version) was never completed anyway according to Joseph Smith. Someday, in the future, we will be given the fullness of the scriptures including the sealed portion of the Book of Mormon when the world is ready for it.
"And in that day that they shall exercise faith in me, saith the Lord, even as the brother of Jared did, that they may become sanctified in me, then will I manifest unto them the things which the brother of Jared saw, even to the unfolding unto them all my revelations, saith Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of the heavens and of the earth, and all things that in them are." -- Ether 4:7
- CV75 and JohnsonJones
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This is regarding a correction of translation in the Bible concerning Luke chapter 23 verses 42-43. A thief hanging on the cross conversed with Jesus as He was also crucified next to him:
42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
The Prophet Joseph Smith explained that this is a mistranslation; the Lord actually said that the thief would be with Him in the world of spirits. A correct translation of Luke chapter 23 verse 43 should read as follows according to Joseph Smith:
"And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in a world of spirits."
In the spirit world the thief would hear the gospel of Jesus Christ preached to him. (See page 96 of the New Testament 2019 Come Follow Me – For Individuals and Families.)
The Prophet Joseph Smith clearly taught this. Why is this not in the Inspired Version of the Bible or at least in our footnotes of the Latter-Day Saint edition of the King James Version?
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I lament King David lost his exaltation because of his murder of Uriah. Doctrine & Covenants 132 verses 38 and 39 talks about this. Verse 39 says: " . . . he he hath fallen from his exaltation, and received his portion . . ."
He was a good ruler the most part of his life and was humble most of time. I would not have had the faith at his age to face the mighty warrior Goliath and prevail. I would have likely also killed Saul if he were hunting me and trying to put me to death. David could have killed Saul a few times but said: "Destroy him not, for who can stretch forth his hand against the Lord’s anointed and be guiltless?” (I Samuel 26:9)
It is sad how any of us can work so hard our entire lives to build something then begin to make bad decisions and lose our exaltation. Likely, David will receive the Telestial Kingdom because of his adultery and murder, but nothing has been revealed on his judgment. He was not resurrected when Christ began the first resurrection of the just.
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Biggest differences in the degrees of glory revealed to us, that I read, is in the Celestial Kingdom we will all be part of eternal families, in likeness of families formed here in this mortal life. A father, mother and children. In the other two glories there are no eternal families like this. In my opinion, the lower degrees of glory will have congregations of people that have recreation and work together to accomplish goals.
I think individual friendships will also exist in the lower glories, but there will be no marriages.
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1 hour ago, askandanswer said:
The imagery/analogy is faulty given that the sun is a star.
Every parable or symbol has limitations or boundaries. Try not to look beyond the mark with a symbol or parable.
For example: Jesus Christ is the good shepherd. We are His sheep. Is Jesus planning on shearing off our wool and killing us someday for food?
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Very little is revealed on the 2nd Heaven (Terrestrial Kingdom). We know there are different degrees in the Telestial and Celestial Kingdoms, but nothing is revealed on the Terrestrial. There are likely hundreds of degrees in Telestial Kingdom, but only three in the Celestial.
The Telestial Kingdom will also have the most inhabitants according to my understand of Doctrine & Covenants 76 verse 109:
"But behold, and lo, we saw the glory and the inhabitants of the telestial world, that they were as innumerable as the stars in the firmament of heaven, or as the sand upon the seashore;"
I am grateful for all the light and knowledge revealed in Doctrine & Covenants Section 76.
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Silver markets are being manipulated presently.
Silver should be up to at least $34 per ounce, in my opinion. But, as of today, silver is close to $25.39 per ounce. All these fraud traders are selling their fake, paper silver certificates that are backed by nothing but lies of what silver they have in their vaults or safes.
In 2021 J.P. Morgan paid $920,000,000 to settle an investigation into their manipulating the silver markets. They also paid an additional $15,700,000 lawsuit brought by other investors who said the manipulation had caused them significant financial losses. They are very likely still doing it today to the silver markets along with others. -
I wonder if, or when, SpaceX will break the speed record for humans? The fastest astronauts have ever traveled is 24,816.1 miles per hour with the Apollo 10 space craft according to what I read. It was May 29th 1969 when that speed record was set.
Going fast costs a lot of money.
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In my estimate, I have paid around $51,000 into Social Security over my life of working and I will probably never collect it.
Give the Federal Government control of part of your retirement funds. What could possibly go wrong? Social Security is the biggest Ponzi scheme ever created in my opinion.
- LDSGator, JohnsonJones and zil2
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There is plenty to complain about in life, but it does not bring joy. Gratitude for blessings in all that the LORD has given us brings joy.
I need to work on this, a lot.
"Thou hast put gladness in my heart, more than in the time when their corn and wine increased. I will both lay me down in peace, and sleep; for Thou Lord only, makest me dwell in safety." -- Psalms 4:7-8
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People have short memories when they talk about January 6th 2021.
In 2005, thirty-two Democrats in Congress including Barbara Boxer attempted overturn the results of the presidential election by objecting to Ohio's electoral votes in an attempt to elect John Kerry.
In 2016, celebrities saturated the media asking in December that the State electors swing vote for Hillary Clinton in the presidential election instead of Donald Trump.
Elections have been contested throughout history in America. They will continue to do so in the future as well as long as America exists.
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I do not trust most of our elections now with the ballot harvesting, ballot curing and no identification in the current voting process. See the thread where I spoke against it here:
https://thirdhour.org/forums/topic/75323-divided-country/page/3/#comment-1091247
We need to put a lot of restrictions on vote by mail and require previously registered voters to show up at the polls with identification to vote again.
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I am getting old too. A few more years and I get to retire. I wish. Likely nineteen more years of full time work ahead for me at least.
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The Berenstain Bears lived in a tree. Papa Bear was an idiot and Mama bear was the sensible one.
King of the Hill was one of the few television shows where the Dad was not idiot.
- NeuroTypical and Jamie123
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21 minutes ago, Phoenix_person said:
There's currently a bipartisan border security bill in the Senate that has the full backing of the USBP and would probably get enough Dem votes in both houses to pass. The GOP is trying their best to bury it in order to prevent giving Biden a win on border security.
No bipartisan bill for American border security is needed. Biden could shut down the invasion very soon at the border if he wanted to. He reversed the border security and threw the door open for anyone to enter very soon after he was put into office. He has the authority to do it.
Someone flirted with me…
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I try not to be alone with a woman if it can be avoided as I am married. Personally I believe it leads to nothing good.
If you are married, flirting with someone else is also not something wise to give in to. There is a very fine line of being friendly and getting into flirting territory. Let the Holy Spirit be your guide. My own conscience calls me out along with the Holy Ghost many times when I am not in a spiritual mind set.
8 So then they that are after the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not after the flesh, but after the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you . . .
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
-- Romans Chapter 8 Inspired Version