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Jesus' Return -- The Blessed Hope
prisonchaplain posted a topic in Christian Beliefs BoardAre You Ready? I grew up reading, listening, and watching warnings that Jesus was on the way to pick up his followers. The book The Late Great Planet Earth, by Hal Lindsey, was a non-fiction description of why we were on the brink of the rapture. The Left Behind series was likely inspired by this book. The movie Thief in the Night was a frightening depiction of a post-rapture world, in which Christians were rounded up and threatened with the guillotine if they did not take the mark of the Beast. Finally, Larry Norman’s song, “I wish we’d all been ready,” soulfully mourned those who knew Jesus was coming, but were not prepared. 2 Peter 3:10 tells us that Jesus’ coming will be ‘like a thief.’ Likewise Matthew 24:44 says he will come at an hour we do not expect. So, why do we not hear much in churches today about Jesus’ return, when it was such a hot topic in from the 1970s-90s? The short answer is that we ministers overplayed our hand. I remember the images of televangelists waving the Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other, proclaiming, “Fulfillment! Fulfillment!” Ultimately, there was too much newspaper and not enough Bible. After the threat of the Y2K Bug fizzled, many Christian ministers became reticent to address the promised return of Jesus. Still—the Bible says Jesus will come back. So, why wouldn’t a Christian be ready? Problem #1—they figure it’s been 2,000 years; it just might be 2,000 more. Problem #2—they believe certain events must happen before Jesus returns: the rebuilding of the Temple, the preaching of Jesus to all peoples, or perhaps that the Antichrist becomes identified. The final problem is that they just get too busy with daily life, and the promise/threat of Christ returning fades. How to address these challenges? In answer to all of them, Jesus says to be ready. That so many are no longer expecting him to return soon means we are in exactly the kind of time when he might—an hour when he is not expected! Further, In Luke 12:40 the Master labels Christians who are unprepared as slovenly and careless. Jesus-followers should continue to share their faith, engage in charity, seek out strong Bible teaching, do what is right, eschew what is wrong, and obey God’s directions. What of those who are not God-seekers?. Become one. God promises that those who seek Him will find Him—though He is not far. A final humble suggestion—God associates with his own followers; so church is a good place to find Him!
His Signs and Wonders in the Heavens - Video
lds2 posted a topic in LDS Gospel DiscussionIt is finally done my friends and was done as a gift to Him. This information pertains most to 2017 and pray that it will go to those where this knowledge will be a blessing in their lives. Some dear friends have spent many hours putting it together and truthfully I have not watched it yet, but I was there when it was made . Please excuse my facial expressions, my stammering/stuttering, repetitive vocal sounds, the way I look, my probable mistakes between saying solar, lunar, etc...I was nervous doing this and some of these traits are just me. And please understand that this is a compilation of about 2/3rds of my slides and that I left many things out as there is so much that is or could be happening in the heavens, and things which have happened in and around the feast days, etc. The information comes from many sources but mostly from my own research, from Daniel (an Evangelical Christian), Paul (a Messianic Jew), Marc (a Messianic Jew) and John Pratt (LDS), most of their sites are found on the slides. Those with some differing beliefs have different interpretations of what these things mean, we have some additional puzzle pieces through additional scripture and revelation. Some friends have said that there is too much information to take in all at once and that is why I thought a video would be better than a podcast as one can take it in in small bites and learn as you go. I would suggest watching also Marc Biltz' videos on the meaning of the Feast Days and Jonathan Cahn's work on Shemitahs which links you can find on youtube. Okay friends...here it is...please treat it with kindness as it is a life's work and I'm sure there are some mistakes here and there. Please don't tell people that it means something specific will happen on these days as I don't know, except for the eclipses and conjunctions, that something will. I believe it is telling us of the importance of this dispensation and these things certainly testify of our Savior and Redeemer Jesus Christ and this time which presages his Second Coming. People get tired of watching for His imminent return and when they think such things like something is imminent they can get too tired just when it is most important to watch! As you will see in the last signs shared if these things do mean something specifically it will most likely still be many years before His coming in actual glory which most people mistake as His only "coming" when we know that there have been and will be more of His comings throughout this dispensation before His final coming. These things could be years in advance of any actual events. Of course it is wise to be prepared as instructed by the First Presidency in their publication entitled "All Is Safely Gathered In"  just in case! that can be found on-line or on providentliving.org. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HG0K5-NIzGs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I was raised to believe we would all be called to Utah in the last days, though I'm not sure if it is real doctrine. Also, I've been told we would have a Mormon president eventually. Is this rumor urban legend or another piece of doctrine? Thanks guys!s
Sister Oscarson Talks About Our Day
lds2 posted a topic in LDS Gospel DiscussionSome of the highlights that stood out to me... "we live in “perilous times.” The conditions of our day should not be a surprise to us. They have been foretold for millennia as a warning and admonition so that we can be prepared. The 8th chapter of Mormon gives a disconcertingly accurate description of the conditions of our day." [Some of the very elect will be deceived.] [We need to be prepared for the storms that lie ahead.] "We need women who can detect deception in all of its forms." "We need women who know how to access the power that God makes available to covenant keepers." "All women need to see themselves as essential participants in the work of the priesthood." "...the Lord has blessed us, as women who live in these perilous times, with all of the power, gifts, and strength that are needed in order to prepare the world for the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ." Rise Up In Strength, Sister in Zion by Barbara L Oscarson https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2016/10/rise-up-in-strength-sisters-in-zion?lang=eng
For the first time in almost 2,000 years the Sanhedrin did as commanded by the bible and started the New Year on March 10th of 2016. (The priests also sacrificed a grain offering on a small temple altar at that time.) Some of us were following the "blood moons" on His "divine appointments" last year (much of that is explained in books, movies and videos) and when nothing happened on Elul 29-Feast of Trumpets some folks were upset and others ridiculed. But folks forgot or didn't know that this is a Shemitah/Jubilee two year period and we are not to the end of that yet. To me this is particularly apparent as a "God thing" when you note that when the year was started as instructed by the bible (as happened this year) that the solar eclipses and lunar eclipses on His New Year's days and main divine appointment days have continued through 2016. I am posting this for other "watchers" who would like to know these things as I believe they testify of His coming. I do not believe He will come soon "in glory" as the second coming is a progressive event (I believe starting with God and the Father appearing to Joseph Smith, then Jesus appearing to prophets in various temples, and we know he will appear at Adam-ondi-Ahman, at His temple in the New Jerusalem, to rescue the Jews in Jerusalem, etc. before He comes in glory to cleanse the Earth and judge humankind.) So...If these things interest you I will post some sources below that you can research further. Elder Bednar (and the scriptures of course) has repeatedly said in recent years to "Watch with all perserverance" and that is what I am trying to do. Perhaps some others will want to take the opportunity to learn about what is going on in the Heavens as well. The 7 High Holy Days this Year, 2016 (with some other perhaps significant dates thrown in) Spring 9-10 March [Nisan 1] . God's Biblical Calendar begins - New Year Total Solar Eclipse, New Moon, a supermoon 23-24 March . . . . . Passover Penumbral Lunar Eclipse also 2 comets (among the five closest to the Earth ever recorded) (2 day Seder observance in diaspora) 24-31 March . . . . . Feast of Unleavened Bread (7 day observance) 27-28 March . . . . . Feast of First Fruits (Resurrection) (1 day observance) ** 15-16 May . . . . . . Pentecost (1 day observance) ** Fall 3/4 August to 11 September is . . Teshuvah (40 Days of Repentance) So 9/11 significant?...perhaps very! The Jubilee year did not start until the Day of Atonement 2015 so a full year could end on the day of atonement or 9/11 this year. 1 September . . . . . Elul 29 * Annular Solar Eclipse -- this eclipse officially ends at 12:00 (exactly) UTC tim 2-4 September . . . . Feast of Trumpets and Civic New Year (2 day observance) 11-12 September . . . Day of Atonement (1 day observance) 16-23 September . . . Feast of Tabernacles Penumbral Lunar Eclipse (seven day observance) * In hindsight, it is not surprising that nothing happened last year on Elul 29 as prevously the Shemita years of 2001 and 2008 were not followed by a Jubilee year. Anciently they were to not sow for two years, the second year led to greater deliverance as well, particularly from debt and servitude. These were sacred years where they were able to be with family on the tribal lands and worship in ways that were not possible when sowing/harvesting. Perhaps in a way we are doing that as well...perhaps that is why there has been such a push to keep the Sabbath Day Holy this year? So with my watching Elul 29 or the Day of Atonement this year as the end of this third Shemitah (this year shemitah/jubilee) "week" in a row (prior two had significant stock market crashes), does anyone else see as very significant the fact that the Elul 29/Feast of Trumpets eclipse ends at 12:00 (an exact symbolic number?). When I saw the 12:00 exact time it just stuck out to me, you can find it here... http://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/solar/2016-september-1 Also, some count the calendar a day different than others...http://www.ccg.org/weblibs/study-papers/a_p2016.html
Long story short, my husband thinks the Second Coming is right around the corner. He's been obsessing about food storage, the Illuminati and secret combinations, and "living in the wilderness" when the time comes. He has his reasons for thinking so - he's very smart and good with Scripture interpretation, and there is a LOT of speculation about that very topic on hush-hush sites around the internet. He's reading so much into other people's ideas, predictions, and interpretations that it's seems like it's taking over his mind. Don't get me wrong - I love my husband, and I think he's a wonderful man with great intentions, but we definitely don't see eye to eye on this. He was raised in the Church and I was not, so I have a very liberal understanding of the Scriptures and am a pretty free spirit. I can't really even pinpoint why I'm beginning to worry about it; my husband has had obsessions before, but he's never gotten so lost in it before. He's very defensive about it, in my opinion, when I bring up the possibility that it won't be so soon. He's recently started studying the Scriptures multiple times daily, but it's for the purpose of learning more for the Second Coming and how to cope when the end of the world does happen. Truthfully, this hurts my feelings because at the beginning of this year, I spent hours creating a YEARLONG calendar detailing an intensive Scripture study program that would increase and solidify our familiarity with ALL of the books in the Scriptures, ALL stories, ALL prophets and ideas...and he basically just blew it off. He always told me he "didn't feel like it" or "wasn't into it". But now that he has the end of the world to read about, he's all into it. This is the core, I think, of the problem, is that he's becoming self-centered. His greatest concern is ensuring that HE is prepared spiritually. He actually said to me, 'Well ONE of us has to be prepared when the day comes." We've only been married for a year and a half, and we have a five-month old daughter, but this is NOT the only marital issue we've had. We've always been prone, even while dating, to screaming matches, name-calling, and deliberate skewing of each others' words and intentions. We almost split up about a year ago because we were fighting so much (I had just gotten pregnant and was in a very depressed place and it just wasn't good for our relationship.) I don't have the time or space to cover, even in a general sense, all the problems we have, and I didn't explain our situation very well with the LARGE amount of space I've already taken up. I guess I'm just not looking forward to this...the next couple of years, I feel, are going to be all about the end of the world. He's completely given up on having a future in this world in case it DOESN'T collapse, and has told me more than once that he's "banking on" this time coming to an end. Truthfully, if this continues with this intensity, I don't actually know if I'll be able to take it. He's not an easy person to talk to when he's made up his mind and someone disagrees with him, and he's definitely not an easy person to talk to about feelings and emotions, either. I don't, in all honesty, feel comfortable talking to him about this. We do not have a peaceful or understanding history, and now it feels like he's pushing me away in favor of this world-end agenda. Someone please give me some advice, i don't really know what to do, and this is starting to affect me mentally and emotionally.
Second Coming Rumors
chashathaway posted a topic in LDS Gospel DiscussionHey all! I'm writing a book about the second coming of Jesus Christ, and I have a section in each chapter about rumors vs. doctrine about the second coming--kind of like a 2nd coming Snopes Anyway, what are some rumors you've heard about anything to do with the second coming? (the mark of the beast, gathering to zion, lost tribes of Israel--anything, really)
Who said the following?
jonathan.plumb posted a topic in LDS Gospel DiscussionSo I have two Second Coming quote questions. I have heard both of these general statements growing up but have been unable to locate who said them. I would appreciate it if anybody knows who said them, or knows if either of these quotes are completely untrue. Also, I do not know the exact quotes, so the following are just generally what I've heard: 1) Many people alive today will live to see the 2nd Coming 2) Today's children will be the generation that delivers the Church to the Savior at his 2nd Coming. Both of these, if they are accurate, sound like something that a Prophet would say, probably not something a general authority or what-not would say. So I guess that narrows down my search a bit, but I've still had no luck. I'm starting to think they're not true. Thanks.