anonymousaddict26 Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Is there any sins that someone can commit when are "sharing time" with there spouse? I was told that the church does not enter into the bed room as long and they don't disrespect there spouse? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Should not involve another person or animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxel Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) I think there are certain sexual practices that are forbidden in the Kingdom of God. One cannot count the perversions that have been contrived as 'sexual pleasures', but ([EDIT:]I felt really uncomfortable with what I listed, so I deleted the items.)I'm not married, and this is a touchy topic, so that's all I'm going to say, as it's frankly all I know.Maxel out. Edited January 31, 2009 by Maxel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgia2 Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 When I first joined the church 30 years ago, I was told there were some acts that were considered perversions and not to be practiced. These acts were in days past considered that but in todays society are not. (between a man and wife.) anyway, I have never had the issue brought up or even hinted at in any church affiliated meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytor2112 Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Should not involve another person or animals.Oh my...where is that darn laugh button!!!:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I don't see what was so funny about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr T Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Pammy was serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulykiwi Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I think there are certain sexual practices that are forbidden in the Kingdom of God. One cannot count the perversions that have been contrived as 'sexual pleasures', but ([EDIT:]I felt really uncomfortable with what I listed, so I deleted the items.)I'm not married, and this is a touchy topic, so that's all I'm going to say, as it's frankly all I know.Maxel out.There is a handbook on the matter but only Bishops have it. It relates to these subjects. What you and your partner do in privacy should remain that way. But there are no rules really to sexual acts, if it is CONSENSUAL to both people that is. At the end of the day, it's all about an expression of LOVE. Anything beyond that, wouldn't be acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgia2 Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 :nownow:yeah unfortunately, with our sick society, some folks do really sick things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 From what I gather, a rather detailed First Presidency letter was circulated back in the early 80's when Spencer W. Kimball was the prophet. But the Church hasn't really said anything about the topic since then. You'll have to seek the Spirit and determine whether President Kimball's counsel is applicable to your marriage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I've said it before, maybe we should get a sticky for this: As long as both spouses are comfortable with it, and it does not involve other people or animals, the church has no stand on the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Thanks for mentioning the other people or animals. I still am honestly trying to figure out what was so funny about my post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthiechan Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Me too Pam. I don't get it either. Porn counts as including other people btw. Yes, there are couples out there in this world that view porn together. Ick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Me too Pam. I don't get it either. Porn counts as including other people btw. Yes, there are couples out there in this world that view porn together. Ick. we have a few here on this site....that would probally see no harm in this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dove Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) okay, okay, okay, I need the big LOL button. This has done the best for my sense of humor since Ceeboo's posts about......well, I won't bring that up. HEY CEEBOO, WHERE ARE YOU WHEN WE NEED YOUR HUMOR?! Sorry, Pam, this is not intended to make you feel bad. I don't know why it struck me so funny. I guess I'm married, and sex life is as it is, and talking about "another person and animals" makes me want to laugh my buns off because, well, I have to think. Because rather than being gross or disgusting or even erotic, it makes it sound rather humorous....guess one has to be in that experience....I don't know..........Suggestions, anyone who laughed or asked for the LOL in relation to this?! I think the chuches standing is whatever makes the couples' boat float together is okay. So, if standing on their head and stacking beebees, popping popcorn, making fudge, ants in their pants doing the hula dance is what brings them closer in the bedroom, more power to them. I hope this gives a laugh to everyone........ PS "Sex life is as it is" means part of the mundanity of life, even though I love my husband dearly, and he loves me the same.....I did have to put that in to explain my come from more....Sorry! Edited January 31, 2009 by Dove to add PS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) Sorry it wasn't meant to be humorous. It was a serious post on my part. I'll bow out of this conversation. Edited January 31, 2009 by pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulykiwi Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 we have a few here on this site....that would probally see no harm in this.....I don't understand how anyone can see "no harm in it". For many reasons, but the main one being that porn IS a form of infidelity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trulykiwi Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Pornography is a sin. Period. Whether you watch it on your own or with your spouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tomk Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Above all else, your spouse should be loved and respected. Let that be your guide and you should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgia2 Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Sorry it wasn't meant to be humorous. It was a serious post on my part. I'll bow out of this conversation.I think people laugh because it is so "out there" for them. What is not funny is it isn't out there for some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dove Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I was wrong for laughing, and I pm'd Pam an apology. Even though it struck me as funny, I wasn't right in making Pam feel laughed at, and I am sorry for that~ Dove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 From what I gather, a rather detailed First Presidency letter was circulated back in the early 80's when Spencer W. Kimball was the prophet. But the Church hasn't really said anything about the topic since then. You'll have to seek the Spirit and determine whether President Kimball's counsel is applicable to your marriage.Such was the situation with a young woman who believed that anything was acceptable within their physical relationship now that she and her husband were married. She was highly resistant to the idea that it was possible to be unchaste within marriage until she read the words of President Spencer W. Kimball: "If it is unnatural, you just don't do it. That is all, and all the family life should be kept clean and worthy and on a very high plane. There are some people who have said that behind the bedroom doors anything goes. That is not true and the Lord would not condone it." (The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, 312.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemidakota Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 The purposes of appropriate sexual relations in marriage include the expression and building of joy, unity, love, and oneness. To be "one flesh" is to experience an emotional and spiritual unity. This oneness is as fundamental a purpose of marital relations as is procreation. President Spencer W. Kimball stated:The union of the sexes, husband and wife (and only husband and wife), was for the principal purpose of bringing children into the world. Sexual experiences were never intended by the Lord to be a mere plaything or merely to satisfy passions and lusts. We know of no directive from the Lord that proper sexual experience between husbands and wives need be limited totally to the procreation of children, but we find much evidence from Adam until now that no provision was ever made by the Lord for indiscriminate sex [1975, p. 4]. Furthermore, as Paul noted, "Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife" (1 Cor. 7:3-4). Thus, physical intimacy is a blessing to married couples when it is an expression of their mutual benevolence and commitment to each other's well-being, an affirmation of their striving to be emotionally and spiritually one. The key in sexual matters is unselfishness. Self-centered pursuit of physical desire is destructive of the unity and love that characterize healthy marital relations. Such love or charity is long-suffering, kind, not envious, does "not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not [one's] own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil" (1 Cor. 13:4-5), and is compatible with the Light of Christ, which directs all in the ways of righteousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr T Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 Thank you HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruthiechan Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 The purposes of appropriate sexual relations in marriage include the expression and building of joy, unity, love, and oneness. To be "one flesh" is to experience an emotional and spiritual unity. This oneness is as fundamental a purpose of marital relations as is procreation. President Spencer W. Kimball stated:The union of the sexes, husband and wife (and only husband and wife), was for the principal purpose of bringing children into the world. Sexual experiences were never intended by the Lord to be a mere plaything or merely to satisfy passions and lusts. We know of no directive from the Lord that proper sexual experience between husbands and wives need be limited totally to the procreation of children, but we find much evidence from Adam until now that no provision was ever made by the Lord for indiscriminate sex [1975, p. 4]. Furthermore, as Paul noted, "Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife" (1 Cor. 7:3-4). Thus, physical intimacy is a blessing to married couples when it is an expression of their mutual benevolence and commitment to each other's well-being, an affirmation of their striving to be emotionally and spiritually one. The key in sexual matters is unselfishness. Self-centered pursuit of physical desire is destructive of the unity and love that characterize healthy marital relations. Such love or charity is long-suffering, kind, not envious, does "not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not [one's] own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil" (1 Cor. 13:4-5), and is compatible with the Light of Christ, which directs all in the ways of righteousness.Note what I bolded above. I would like to point out that a person can be sexually selfish even if the guy is always on top which is the most traditional position. A person can be sexually selfish during any sexual activity and that selfishness has nothing to do with what exactly you are doing with your spouse in bed. That selfishness also bleeds out into other areas of life as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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