"Love" or "Lust"?


Mahdi
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In the name of Allah(God)

Somedays ago,I saw a film which was created by hollywood.It was an action film.I don't remember its name.

This film was about a man that some others want to bother him.After a while I saw that the women in this film changed their coverings in a shameless situation and at the end of the film they(the woman and man) kissed each other and told that they love each other!

It was strange for me.First, because of being nude in front of the video camera.I asked myself,"why?".why they do such like this?is it a honor for them?or for another purpose they do this?(If you know tell me the answer,please.)

As far as I know,alI heavenly religions invite people to be modesty.I was reading about nudity in cinema one month ago.It was wonderful for me that it begun in the year of 1936 in a film in united states.The writer then descibes that one of the women became completely nude in this film.And till now nudity is clips and film is continuing.

Imagine when these films goes to the other countries then what would happen what would happen in a culture that it's people are living in a modesty society?It will attack their culture.

I always appreciate Islam because it showed me to be modesty,not to live like those people .

The second thing that was strange for me, saying "I love you" by the man and woman.I laugh at them.ha ha.And now also I am laughing at them.being nude and kissing each other and then feeling "love"?

They don't know what "love" is.What they feel is “lust” not “Love”.”Love” is a holy gift to those who obey God not gift to those who are nude or sinful.I am sure that the God's way is toward the modesty and being pious not toward sex or nudity.I remember a sentense from Charlin Chaplin in a letter toward his daughter.He wrote:"nudity is a desease in our century.".

Anyway ,Animals are also nude.And those who obey from nudity are like animals not human.Humanity means when modesty and being pious become a part of our characteristics.

I would be happy to know your idea about it.

thanks alot

Mahdi

People in front of camera are nude for a variety of reasons. Sometimes it is to appeal to the audience. Other times it is to help to make the movie more meaningful. The same way showing violence for war movies sometimes makes them more meaningful and helps you to appreciate the situation better. All good movies do not have to have nudity or violence in them but that is a couple of the reasons why they use it. I don't personally find it wrong to have nudity or violence in movies though.

I think people need to just live and let live. Encourage your children to not watch such films. Don't live near a place that sells such films if you can but people have a right to do what they wish so long as it does not harm another person and no one is forcing another to watch such films. Some people don't want to watch such things. Others do. From my personal experience, I have found that those who usually are very condescending towards those who watch films with nudity or who engage in premarital relations are not only being judgmental but also are usually insecure about themselves and their own sexuality. The topic of sex in general is usually considered such a hush hush topic that many people are even afraid to talk about it, ask questions or voice an opinion. It's not so very different from a lot of people, particularly men, feeling a desire to pick on other guys who show emotion. A lot of people are insecure about themselves and feel a need to go hound on others because of it. If you want to convince other people you're right, do it by living an example. If your way is right and genuinely makes others happier, they'll come around. The important thing is you're doing it for you. Don't worry about what others are doing.

You don't have to believe it's ok but you need to be accepting of others believing that it is. The same way you wouldn't want a bunch of people telling you you're evil for not believing the same religion. Many Christians are very condescending towards lds simply because they do not believe the same. I don't agree with that. It's not the same as my personal beliefs but I have no problem with others believing as they do and I don't get mad at them or think less of them because they believe differently or act differently. Their beliefs do not affect me. So why should I be angry? Speak out against nudity in films or pornography if you like but I would strongly encourage not looking down upon or treating those who view it with contempt.

By the way, I love your picture of the baby. Cute photo.

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Pornography (lust), on the other hand, is cheap. It requires no education, discipline, self-mastery, time, or sacrifice to use. Weak cowardly imbeciles who are incapable of forming meaningful relationships with others mistakenly turn to pornography to try and escape their sad pitiful lives. The only way to escape feeling worthless and rejected is to actually be worth something though. Those who are too lazy and uncaring to put the time, effort, and work into something of value will find no lasting comfort from pornography (lust). No amount of rationalizations or delusional imaginations will ever compensate for the shame which results from choosing indifferent selfish lassitude over concerned selfless dedication. Pornography creates nothing, and takes everything in return.

That sounds awfully judgmental to me.

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And what about Luke 6:37?

ST LUKE

CHAPTER 6

37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

"Weak cowardly imbeciles who are incapable of forming meaningful relationships with others mistakenly turn to pornography to try and escape their sad pitiful lives" It is not our place to judge others.

ST MATTHEW

CHAPTER 7

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

I am not saying someone shouldn't be against pornography if they feel strongly against it. That is their right. I am saying it is not our place to judge and bad mouth those who do not feel that it is indeed wrong. Disagree with pornography. Speak out against it but do not belittle others for taking part in it. That is called being judgmental and intolerant for something which is their right to participate in.

As I stated before, this is not so very different from what many Christians do to the LDS. They stand outside their temples and persecute them for believing differently than they do. They persecute them for trying to spread their beliefs which are different from their own. But are their beliefs truly bothering anyone? I don't think they are. People can simply say they are not interested or stay away from it if bothers them so. If two people have different opinions and one starts running the other down for disagreeing with them, that is intolerance and a demonstration of being incapable of allowing others to express opposite points of views. I find a good rule to live by is to treat others how you want to be treated.

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Okay, so I just came across this thread...and I had to respond to the following:

And what about Luke 6:37?

ST LUKE

CHAPTER 6

37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

"Weak cowardly imbeciles who are incapable of forming meaningful relationships with others mistakenly turn to pornography to try and escape their sad pitiful lives" It is not our place to judge others.

ST MATTHEW

CHAPTER 7

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

I am not saying someone shouldn't be against pornography if they feel strongly against it. That is their right. I am saying it is not our place to judge and bad mouth those who do not feel that it is indeed wrong. Disagree with pornography. Speak out against it but do not belittle others for taking part in it. That is called being judgmental and intolerant for something which is their right to participate in.

As I stated before, this is not so very different from what many Christians do to the LDS. They stand outside their temples and persecute them for believing differently than they do. They persecute them for trying to spread their beliefs which are different from their own. But are their beliefs truly bothering anyone? I don't think they are. People can simply say they are not interested or stay away from it if bothers them so. If two people have different opinions and one starts running the other down for disagreeing with them, that is intolerance and a demonstration of being incapable of allowing others to express opposite points of views. I find a good rule to live by is to treat others how you want to be treated.

I must question if this person knows the difference between making a final judgment (a big no-no) and making an intermediate judgment (something we are supposed to do)?

I could go more in depth, but Elder Oaks sums it up quite well.

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"The Savior also commanded individuals to be judges, both of circumstances and of other people."

I know this is an old post, but, wow. I just couldn't believe some of what I was reading.

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