Look at this lady - Let us never forget

[trulykiwi]

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Irena Sendler

There recently was a death of a 98 year-old lady named Irena.

During WWII, Irena, got permission to work in the Warsaw ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer specialist. She had an 'ulterior motive'.

She KNEW what the Nazi's plans were for the Jews (being German).

Irena smuggled infants out in the bottom of the tool box she carried and she carried in the back of her truck a burlap sack, (for larger kids).

She also had a dog in the back that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and out of the ghetto.

The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do with the dog and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.

During her time of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants.

She was caught, and the Nazi's broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely.

Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out and kept them in a glass jar, buried under a tree in her back yard.

After the war, she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it and reunited the family. Most had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into foster family homes or adopted.

Last year Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize.

She was not selected.

Al Gore won --- for a slide show on Global Warming.

63 years later

[RanMan]

Wow, what a person.

Stories like this make me proud to be part of the human race.

:)

[pam]

Though she may not have received a Noble Prize..she will be rewarded far more than any prize given on earth.

[RanMan]

Though she may not have received a Noble Prize..she will be rewarded far more than any prize given on earth.

That is true. This is someone I would like to meet in the here after and have an opportunity to shake her hand.

:)

[pam]

For me it's Mother Teresa

[RanMan]

For me it's Mother Teresa

Her too.

:)

[Wingnut]

There was a Hallmark Hall of Fame movie made about her story earlier this year. She actually died in April 2008, so not "recently." Anna Paquin played her in the movie.

[Jbs2763]

and B. Huessien Obama won this year...way to go Nobel Prize folk

[ADoyle90815]

Wow, what a person! Still, I am thankful that voters were able to select someone who wasn't white as our President. I think Obama is very courageous because the Secret Service is kept busier than ever dealing with threats against his life.

[mnn727]

Funny isn't it that WW2 ended in 1945 and in over 60 years no one ever said anything about her until a certain conservative talk show host made this whole story up to dis Al Gore. Since then its been copied all over the internet by people who want to believe its true, but who never do any actual research to find out.

Nobel nominee's are not announced so there is no way of anyone other than the Nobel committee knowing who is in the running

from Nomination Facts

Information about the nominations, investigations, and opinions concerning the award is kept secret for fifty years.

and

Is it possible to nominate someone for a posthumous Nobel Prize?

No, it is not. From 1974, the Statutes of the Nobel Foundation have stipulated that a Prize cannot be awarded posthumously, unless death has occurred after the announcement of the Nobel Prize.

Since the winners are chosen in October and announced in December and she died in April of 2008 by the rules of the Nobel committee there is no way she could have received it -- see

Process of Nomination and Selection

Don't get me wrong, what this lady did was heroic, but why do some people use her bravery for their own political reasons?

Being on the internet doesn't mean it is true!

Edited November 27, 2009 by mnn727

[thekabalist]

Some of G-d's precious children are just really special. It brought tears to my eyes.

[Gretchen]

We're all special in our own way.

[Vort]

We're all special in our own way.

Which is another way of saying no one is.

Thanks, Dash!

[thekabalist]

We're all special in our own way.

And sadly not everyone understands it to the point of realizing their potential.

[Guest mormonmusic]

This is a touching story -- imagine, this lady took 2500 chances that could've landed her the same fate as the jews in Nazi Germany.

I just finished reading a story about a Mormon youth who was executed during the Nazi Regime for distributing flyers against the Nazi way of doing things.

His name was Helmuth Hubener, and was teacher or priest age at the time he and a couple other German youth listened to an illegal radio and distributed the contents of BBC broadcasts....read The Boy Who Dared, which is a semi-factual novel about his experience in this life. It's a scholastic book.

Interesting, the Church excommunicated him after his conviction for his anti-government actions in Germany, and then Salt Lake apparently reversed the excommunication. And interesting way of protecting Church members during the Nazi regime while being eternally fair to the boy.....

Apparently Mormons made it through the Nazi regime without being labeled as deviants like other religions....presumably because we believe in obeying the laws of the land. Prompts interesting ethical questions, as this is a case where two gospel principles -- obeying the laws of the land, and basic right and wrong (with Nazi Germany being the epitomy of wrong in so many ways) were in conflict with each other.

The book, the Boy Who Dared, also weaves some Mormon culture into it, such as the Ward's reaction to the Nazi's mandate that Jews weren't allowed in various public places, including church meetings.

Edited November 27, 2009 by mormonmusic

[pam]

I've read the book Hubener Vs Hitler. It was extremely interesting. You can find it at Deseret Book.

Here's a synopsis:

This is the definitive biography of Helmuth Hubener, the astounding Mormon teenager who daringly took on the Third Reich in the midst of World War II. Hubener is the lad who formed the youngest resistance group in Nazi Germany against Adoph Hitler's mad drive for conquest. While other books have told the story of the group Hubener founded, this is the first to tell the story of Hubener himself.

[Mahone]

This is the definitive biography of Helmuth Hubener, the astounding Mormon teenager who daringly took on the Third Reich in the midst of World War II. Hubener is the lad who formed the youngest resistance group in Nazi Germany against Adoph Hitler's mad drive for conquest. While other books have told the story of the group Hubener founded, this is the first to tell the story of Hubener himself.

I heard of him first a few years ago while I was still in young mens. My president left me a DVD to watch on the subject. It scary how the some church authorities in Germany acted during the time they were out of communication with church authorities in America.

[mnn727]

Interesting, the Church excommunicated him after his conviction for his anti-government actions in Germany, and then Salt Lake apparently reversed the excommunication. .

Actually, 'the Church' did not excommunicate him, his bishop did, it was later reversed by the First Presidency.

We just had a fireside about him with a BYU professor who wrote a book about him

[song_of_the_sun]

I was so touched by this post that i just spent an hour reading about her on the internet. I looked at various videos and write ups. What a beautiful soul! I especially like the remark in one video that said (paraphrase) She went home to heaven and when she met god she asked "where were you in the time of halocaust," and he replied "I was in your heart." That made me cry. Apparently, in her last days, one of the nurses who cared for her was one of the babies she smuggled out in a toolbox when she was only 6 months old. Incredible. I hope people take time to learn about her.

[Maxel]

mnn727- You'd do well to factcheck your claims, and not be content with claiming others have not factchecked their own.

Irena Sendler's nomination was publicly supported by "Polish President Lech Kaczynski and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert", and an online petition was set up by the Polish Jews Forum to support her candidacy. EJP News: Polish righteous gentile nominated for Nobel Peace Prize

The PRIO institute (International Peace Reasearch Institute, Oslo) listed Sendler's nomination as "confirmed" for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. Nobel Peace Prize 2007: Nominations and Speculations

So yes, Ms. Sendler really was nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, and she really did lose to Al Gore and his slideshow.

Then again, the honors of the world mean nothing. I'm sure Ms. Sendler had a very, very warm reunion with many people that she helped when she died.

Edited November 28, 2009 by Maxel

[mnn727]

Nominations and Speculations

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And I refer you right back to the Nobel site and avoid the speculations in your link.

As I said this is a great and heroic lady, but why is it ok to use her life for political reasons? To me it's a disgrace and frankly it disgusts me.

Edited November 28, 2009 by mnn727

[ADoyle90815]

She was a heroic lady, and an inspiration.

[Maxel]

And I refer you right back to the Nobel site and avoid the speculations in your link.

As I said this is a great and heroic lady, but why is it ok to use her life for political reasons? To me it's a disgrace and frankly it disgusts me.

mnn727-

The "Speculations" part of the article isn't speculating about who was nominated- it was speculating about who would win. PRIO has, every year, summarized known candidates and weighed the political atmosphere to give their opinion on who would win the Peace Prize (this has happened at least since 2002). As I said before, Sendler is listed as a confirmed nomination.

From the webpage:

Although nominators are strongly requested not to publish their proposals, the following list of nominees is confirmed only to the extent that the nominators have apparently chosen to publicise their choice anyway

Furthermore, Sendler's nomination was publicly supported by both the Polish President (Lech Kaczynski) and the Israeli Prime Minister (Ehud Olmert)- this is described in the first link.

There's plenty of evidence that suggest she was, in fact, nominated. The fact that her name wasn't officially mentioned as a non-recipient doesn't mean anything, as it is evidence for nothing (as you have pointed out). Mrs. Sendler died in 2008, and the 2007 Peace Prize recipient was anounced October 12, 2007. Since she was alive at the time it was announced, there was no reason she could not have received it- other than the fact that the committee didn't find her accomplishments merited it.

I get the feeling you're dead set on believing her nomination was cooked up by a "conservative talk show host" to smear Al Gore. You can still think the talk show host's actions were deplorable, but the evidence suggests that Mrs. Sendler lost the Nobel Peace Prize to Al Gore and the IPCC.

[omega0401]

There is a lady named Jane Addams that was nominated 91 times before she finally received the nobel peace prize. Hopefully Irena will receive it on her second nomination. There is still that chance. She certainly deserves it for rescuing those children and risking her life at the same time.

Thanks for making her story known to us.

[mnn727]

From the official Nobel website, not from a outside source, not from specualtion.

"the nominations are kept secret for 50 years"

It makes no difference if people push for her to be nominated, put up websites promoting her, etc, whether she was actually a nominee or not will not be known for 50 years.

Once again, my point was not whether she was worthy, but whether her name and deeds should be used for dirty politics.