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It would be a challenge for them, because they have lost the body through which practicing mastery of desires and impulses is most effective.

I agree with most everything you said in this post. I am curious what you meant by this statement though. Why do you think one would have to learn how to master desires and impulses? Practice for what purpose? Are you implying that even with a perfected body there will be impulses that need to be mastered? Our spirits are not intrinsically impulsive, so where does that impulsiveness come from? The only impulsiveness I know about is from the corrupted, mortal body, with imperfect thoughts and wiring. I don't understand this idea that we would have to master a situation that we will never have to face again.

I don't see our spirit self as a 'wild horse' that could go one way one day and then another way in the future. We matured in the presence of our Heavenly Father as spirits. We told Him what way we wanted to go and who we were by keeping our first estate. So, if it is not the spirit self, then would you be implying that the resurrected body is a 'wild horse' that has to be mastered? Could a perfected body, for example, make one think about inappropriate animalistic sexual attraction that we would have to quickly expel from our thoughts? I don't think we will face those kinds of challenges again, that is just part of the test here, in the mortal realm. For some reason, people think that we have to learn mastery over all worldly things. We don't have to, that is why we have a Savior who overcame all for us. It is not required for us to have the same level of mastery our Savior did to make it into the Celestial Kingdom. If that was required then we wouldn't need a Savior, we would just save ourselves or not.

I think our spirit driven desires can be magnified or developed but I really doubt that they flip flip or are impulsive in any way. So, they wouldn't need to be mastered. They are what they are. The human mind flip flops and is impulsive and therefore requires mastery during this existence to show the level of worthiness we would have for future responsibilities .... thank goodness we never have to have that kind of mind after this life.

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The problem with saying that the resurrection is restoration back to the same condition is that one has to state to what condition? I would assume the condition is back to the state before the fall. Not the condition in which we find ourselves here. The condition we have here is a fallen state. So the restoration is pre-fall state. This is a perfect condition, physically and there is only one set of models that we know about that fit that condition which is Adam and Eve.

As I study Alma 34 I have come to separate the term restoration and resurrection.

Every time Alma talks about the restoration it is always in reference to good and evil, and not a physical condition. All physical conditions are naturally reversed, or eliminated.

If the desire to do evil was eliminated in the resurrection then all could go to the Celestial Kingdom.

So, yes, I believe you stated properly, that you are restored to a state, but to what you "became" before you died, not a Garden of Eden state, which would be innocent. We can no longer be innocent. You cannot unlearn what you have learned. Any physical affects of the fall will be gone. But, if you did not repent, then you are restored to the state of needing to repent. If you did not overcome any part of the "world" (or any physical pleasure) then you are restored to that state and you will have to overcome that desire.

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Instead, what we need to do is allow our spirit to control our body.

Exactly.

Whatever we have not learned to overcome, or "mind over matter," if you will, we will still have to learn it. It happens much faster in a mortal body because a mortal body can suffer pain, hunger, fatigue...

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The "allow our spirit to control our body" is true for this life. I agree that that is the test for this life but for this life only. Only here are we dual beings, both body and spirit. With the resurrection our body will be combined with our spirit in such a way that it no longer would be considered a dual being. There is no longer the struggle between spirit versus carnal. That is just part of this test here. That is not something that needs to be overcome after resurrection. I am not sure why you think that. That struggle is unique to this existence.

I'm not sure I go along with this completely.

Certainly, there are certain struggles that a person can only have here, but I don't think once we're resurrected all struggles with "overcoming the body" go away... they just become much more difficult (see previous post). This is what Alma means by the "restoration" of evil for evil.

I think what Alma is saying is that if anyone still has problems with being a 100% spiritually minded and guided person, they cannot enter Celestial Glory. The sins we commit here can be washed clean... easily... and forgotten (easily because Christ suffered eternally for the right to succor His people). The rest of our existence will be spent overcoming unrighteous desires until we have. Some never will (possibly).

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This life is a test mostly.

Yes, but it doesn't result with a passing or failing grade, or even a A,B,C or any other letter.

We are graded by what we become. That means, how well did we give up our selfish desires to desire the good of others?

We will be "restored" to those desires at resurrection. This is what Alma 34 is saying in my opinion. Your spirit will respond in such a way to having a body. When they are rejoined, it will respond in the way it responds. If you have not overcome any selfish desires, they will still be there.

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Another quote of interest.

“A man may receive the priesthood and all its privileges and blessings, but until he learns to overcome the flesh, his temper, his tongue, his disposition to indulge in the things God has forbidden, he cannot come into the celestial kingdom of God—he must overcome either in this life or in the life to come. But this life is the time in which men are to repent. Do not let any of us imagine that we can go down to the grave not having overcome the corruptions of the flesh and then lose in the grave all our sins and evil tendencies. They will be with us. They will be with the spirit when separated from the body.

“It is my judgment that any man or woman can do more to conform to the laws of God in one year in this life than they could in ten years when they are dead. The spirit only can repent and change, and then the battle has to go forward with the flesh afterwards. It is much easier to overcome and serve the Lord when both flesh and spirit are combined as one. This is the time when men are more pliable and susceptible. We will find when we are dead every desire, every feeling will be greatly intensified. When clay is pliable, it is much easier to change than when it gets hard and sets.

“This life is the time to repent. That is why I presume it will take a thousand years after the first resurrection until the last group will be prepared to come forth. It will take them a thousand years to do what it would have taken but three score years and ten to accomplish in this life.

“You remember the vision of the redemption of the dead as given to the Church through the late President Joseph F. Smith. President Smith saw the spirits of the righteous dead before their resurrection and the language is the same as one of the Prophet Joseph’s revelations—that they, the righteous dead, looked upon the absence of their spirits from their bodies as a bondage.

“I grant you that the righteous dead will be at peace, but I tell you that when we go out of this life, leave this body, we will desire to do many things that we cannot do at all without the body. We will be seriously handicapped, and we will long for the body, we will pray for that early reunion with our bodies. We will know then what advantage it is to have a body. . . .

“The point I have in mind is that we are sentencing ourselves to long periods of bondage, separating our spirits from our bodies, or we are shortening that period, according to the way in which we overcome and master ourselves” (Melvin J. Ballard, The Three Degrees of Glory, pp. 11–13) (Book of Mormon Institute Manual, Alma 34:32–35)

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Yes, but it doesn't result with a passing or failing grade, or even a A,B,C or any other letter.

We are graded by what we become. That means, how well did we give up our selfish desires to desire the good of others?

We will be "restored" to those desires at resurrection. This is what Alma 34 is saying in my opinion. Your spirit will respond in such a way to having a body. When they are rejoined, it will respond in the way it responds. If you have not overcome any selfish desires, they will still be there.

I disagree, fleshy desires come from flesh. Corruption stems from corruption. The corrupted desire may continue until all is accounted for but at that point that Christ has paid in full, the atonement is complete then what corruption lingers?

Unless we are given a corrupted body at resurrection then we will not be exposed to continued corruption.

I think that Alma 34 is misinterpreted in that people think that their corrupted earthly traits are somehow continued onto the next life. The true desires of our heart, meaning our spiritual tendencies that only God can really see after taking into account all the variables of this life, that is what continues in resurrection. It is similar to how we were before this life, there were some more valiant than others. Likewise, upon resurrection there are some more valiant than others, some more glorious than others but we are not resurrected into corruption. We put off the corruption with death and resurrection.

If someone, as an example, has obsessive compulsive personality and they feel like they have to wash their hands every time someone shakes their hand, do you think in the next life they will have that trait? That they will have a "desire" to wash their hands in that setting? Similarly, if one has a desire to drink alcohol because they have the gene that rewards that behavior stronger than most, do you think that desire will continue as part of the resurrected body? Or how about the person who is shy because the motor parts of their brain doesn't keep up with the language areas and so they stutter causing a desire to avoid talking with people and speaking in front of large groups? Will that person continue to have a desire to not speak in front of large groups upon resurrection?

Will the person in paradise in the spirit world whose body desired alcohol but they never gave into that desire still desire alcohol while in the spirit world? If you say no, then how is that possible? Don't we continue with the desires we had here? Yes, but only the desires of the heart. Only God knows really what the desires of the heart are for any individual.

I mostly disagree with your middle sentence. This life is not to "become" something. It is more so to reveal who we really are when the choice is placed before us. To see if we will do the things we are asked that in word we said we would. Revealing the choice doesn't make us a different person. We are who we always were, and have shown it by our choices when placed in that situation. How well we gave up the flesh to choose spiritual things is based in who we are spiritually, based in the valiancy of our lives before this one. We don't "become" different people by living this life any more than you would tell yourself that I wasn't really me when I was 5 years old. In this life, we may call it a growing experience because we are placed behind the veil of forgetfulness, so it seems that we learn these things for the first time. God knows though, just how much is given in this life to grade how much is expected from that to show that we have true and righteous desires that would meet with those of whatever Kingdom we are assigned.

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I still it as you speaking more in the physical sense, with the whole corruption thing. I speaking about what we will take with us when we die physically. "That" will be restored to a perfect, incorrupable body. The body will be flesh, even if it no longer has blood, but yes perfect flesh. But, the resurrection cannot magically make "us" perfect... the part that is not the flesh body. Did you read all of Alma 34 yet and look for "restoration" with this thought specifically in mind?

I believe that poeple can change. I think that is the whole point of this existence. A trial or test can change us, if we respond appropriately to it. I believe repentance IS change. We can be "of the flesh" and become "of the spirit." I don't give in to the notion that we're here just living out a "program" of who we are and it's set in stone what we will do, and who we were in the pre-mortal life has already determine this life's final outcome. We're here to see "if" we will do what we're commanded, even if it goes against our flesh desire.

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Will the person in paradise in the spirit world whose body desired alcohol but they never gave into that desire still desire alcohol while in the spirit world? If you say no, then how is that possible? Don't we continue with the desires we had here? Yes, but only the desires of the heart. Only God knows really what the desires of the heart are for any individual.

Very well. However, the person who has given in to the desire their whole like with wreckless abandon will not be equal to the person who fought and desired to stop. Christ's atonement can work for the man who fought and struggled with the desire his whole life, but not for them an who does not desire to stop.

If the atonement worked for both in the same manner, then what good does it do to resist evil?

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Very well. However, the person who has given in to the desire their whole like with wreckless abandon will not be equal to the person who fought and desired to stop. Christ's atonement can work for the man who fought and struggled with the desire his whole life, but not for them an who does not desire to stop.

If the atonement worked for both in the same manner, then what good does it do to resist evil?

What? What knee will not bend? Who will not believe in Christ in the end? Who will not understand in the end? Those that are cast out of the whole system, only. I don't think we are talking about those people.

I believe all individuals of all three glories will all "desire to stop" evil as they are all Kingdoms of glory. If one does not want to stop evil despite their knowledge of it, then they will be out of the system. The degree to which they follow varies, but they all follow. Do you think people in the Telestial Kingdom will be rebellious to God or just not as valiant in their following?

The people in the Telestial Kingdom are not worse off than they were before this existence. They are not people who were once followers, keepers of their first estate, and then rebellious to remain in their rebellion. There is no glory for the rebellious soul. They are still seekers of happiness not intrinsically evil.

Paul says, fight a good fight and endure to the end. We don't have to win the fight, just fight a good fight. We don't have to overcome corruption because Christ overcomes it for us, and therefore takes it away. The test is in how we fight the fight, which is the desire of our heart, not whether we actually become a master of the earthly desires or not in this life.

D&C 76 " 81 And again, we asaw the glory of the btelestial, which glory is that of the lesser, even as the cglory of the stars differs from that of the glory of the moon in the firmament.

82 These are they who received not the gospel of Christ, neither the atestimony of Jesus.

83 These are they who adeny not the Holy Spirit.

84 These are they who are thrust down to ahell.

85 These are they who shall not be redeemed from the adevil until the blast resurrection, until the Lord, even Christ the cLamb, shall have finished his work." (bold added)

So, they are still redeemed.

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This is why addiction is so dangerous. This is whay we are told to avoid anything that will make our physical bodies crave or desire anything.

I think many times I have used a term and you have understood it differently than what I intended. I would go back and compare them all, but I don't know what point it would prove. That, or my horrendous grammar from late last night (sigh).

We are dual natured beings, and we always will be.

Do you believe we will stop desiring flesh things at some point?

I don't think we will. Some learn to not act. It's not a sin to desire things of the flesh (I'm not talking about evil thing necessarily, but say, strawberries, laying in the grass on a nice warm day, taking a refreshing swim when it's hot, etc.). We will still have flesh desires. Some of those desires may be against the rules of the kingdom we live in.

But, I'm not just speaking about the things we generally consider sin. I'm just trying to establish the fact that flesh is flesh, whether immortal or mortal. Incorrubtable doesn't mean you can't be tempted, it means it will not decay and die. Christ was tempted while on earth, yet He was perfect, and His body was corruptable because it had blood and aged, not because He sinned.

I think Alma is separating the corruptableness of the body from the corruptableness of the spirit. The physical body is corruptable because of blood and mortality, the spirit because of sin (not temptation -- or desire).

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This is why addiction is so dangerous. This is whay we are told to avoid anything that will make our physical bodies crave or desire anything.

I think many times I have used a term and you have understood it differently than what I intended. I would go back and compare them all, but I don't know what point it would prove. That, or my horrendous grammar from late last night (sigh).

We are dual natured beings, and we always will be.

Do you believe we will stop desiring flesh things at some point?

I don't think we will. Some learn to not act. It's not a sin to desire things of the flesh (I'm not talking about evil thing necessarily, but say, strawberries, laying in the grass on a nice warm day, taking a refreshing swim when it's hot, etc.). We will still have flesh desires. Some of those desires may be against the rules of the kingdom we live in.

But, I'm not just speaking about the things we generally consider sin. I'm just trying to establish the fact that flesh is flesh, whether immortal or mortal. Incorrubtable doesn't mean you can't be tempted, it means it will not decay and die. Christ was tempted while on earth, yet He was perfect, and His body was corruptable because it had blood and aged, not because He sinned.

I think Alma is separating the corruptableness of the body from the corruptableness of the spirit. The physical body is corruptable because of blood and mortality, the spirit because of sin (not temptation -- or desire).

I think Paul describes desires of the Flesh pretty well, and I don't think we will be exposed to those things in the next life: “… Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

“Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

“Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

“Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

“And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

“If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.” (Gal. 5:19–25.)

.... and this is what David O. McKay said;

"Each of us has two contrasting natures: the physical and the spiritual.

Man is a dual being, and his life a plan of God. That is the first fundamental fact to keep in mind. Man has a natural body and a spiritual body. In declaring this fact the scriptures are very explicit:

“And the Gods formed man from the dust of the ground, and took his spirit (that is, the man’s spirit), and put it into him; and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.” [Abraham 5:7.]

Man’s body, therefore, is but the tabernacle in which his spirit dwells. Too many, far too many, are prone to regard the body as the man, and consequently to direct their efforts to the gratifying of the body’s pleasures, its appetites, its desires, its passions. Too few recognize that the real man is an immortal spirit, which [is] “intelligence or the light of truth,” [see D&C 93:29] animated as an individual entity before the body was begotten, and that this spiritual entity with all its distinguishing traits will continue after the body ceases to respond to its earthly environment. "

...bold added. Note the distinguishing traits of the spirit are there before the body was begotten and will continue after the body is gone. But during this mortal life the body's contrasting traits rule. Note that David O. McKay is saying here that the body has it's own desires. That is what creates the test.

When a baby is born, is it the baby's spirit or the body that knows how to suckle? or know how to cry? Is it the spirit or the body that hungers for food on fast Sunday? Is it the spirit or the body that caused the apostles to fall asleep in the garden?

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So, you believe the resurrection will wipe away any flesh desires?

What your quotes and scriptures do not address is what will happen after the body and spirit are reunited.

Again, I believe what Alma teaches in chapter 42 is that "evil will be restored to evil." The resurrection will not automatically, or magically, purge flesh desires.

Speaking of Adam and Eve, but applying to all men and women:

Alma 42: 10 Therefore, as they had become carnal, sensual, and devilish, by nature, this probationary state became a state for them to prepare; it became a preparatory state.

Once they had become flesh, or carnal, they needed a time to repent. If not, redemption was impossible.

The addition of the knowledge of good and evil, and a mortal body, added carnal desires that cannot simply be erased, even by resurrection; but only by repentance.

27 Therefore, O my son, whosoever will come may come and partake of the waters of life freely; and whosoever will not come the same is not compelled to come; but in the last day it shall be restored unto him according to his deeds.

28 If he has desired to do evil, and has not repented in his days, behold, evil shall be done unto him, according to the restoration of God.

The resurrection will not wipe away any desires the spirit has, where the spirit has not overcome the desire of the body. If it were possible to wipe these desires away simply be making the body immortal, all could abide celestial glory after the resurrection, no longer having evil desires.

Repentance is the condition by which the atonement is applied to sin, weaknesses, and evil desires. Without repentance, the desire will be restored, because nothing has removed the desire, since without repentance the atonement cannot be applied.

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as they had become carnal, sensual, and devilish, by nature

So, here is the question you're asking...

We were innocent before coming to earth, much like Adam and Eve were innocent in the Garden of Eden. Once this carnal nature is added, it is a change. So, are we simply trying to get back to our previous condition of innocence, or are we really trying to change into something else?

As I stated earlier, I do see your point. I would like to offer that we can never be innocent again. We now have a physical body with flesh desires. We did not have that before. We now have the knowledge of good and evil (maybe as a result of having the physical body). We have that now forever, but again we did not have that prior to being born on earth.

With the addition of these two things, we are changed. We are carnal, and must learn to become spiritual with the new additions. By being born here we went through a fundamental change, and now we must go through a nother funamental change, to become spiritual, or follow the will of God, but we cannot go back to being innocent, we have progressed beyond that. We cannot unlearn what we have now learned, but must learn to overcome it.

When we do, we will become something entirely different than was possible in the premortal existence. We will become holy by our choice (not precluding the need for Christ and His atonement to make it possible). In the premortal existence we didn't have the abiltiy to choose to be holy because we didn't have the necessary opposition (carnal nature).

Some chose to rebel prior to having a carnal nature, and they were not allowed to progress to having that nature. Since being holy can never be a choice for them (as long as they don't have a body) they cannot progress from their current condition.

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When we do, we will become something entirely different than was possible in the premortal existence. We will become holy by our choice (not precluding the need for Christ and His atonement to make it possible). In the premortal existence we didn't have the abiltiy to choose to be holy because we didn't have the necessary opposition (carnal nature).

Those that die before the age of accountability have taken on a carnal nature? Or are they never going to be Holy? By your description it has to be one or the other. So, which is it for those that die before the age of 8? Since they couldn't choose yet, because they are not accountable and yet they took on a mortal body.

Now, if you say, 'they wouldn't have taken on carnality until they actually made a choice' (or something like that). Then I would respond with, yes, that is my point. Our choices made in this existence reveals our carnal versus spiritual nature, but the choice is made by who we are. So there is nothing that changed about us, just the situation changed.

If a man wishes to kill someone but can't find the opportunity to do so, couldn't find a gun or the situation in which to do it, how do you think that person would be judged. Also, if a man lusts after a woman but never meets that woman, like seeing the woman on the internet etc., how will that man be judged? Is it the action that changes a person, or is it just revealed by giving the opportunity, what is in the heart or what that person is made of is the same or different after being able to perform the act or not?

I don't think God would put his children in a situation where they could change their destiny from righteousness to evil but He would put them in a situation where either righteousness or evil could reveal itself and develop based on the nature of that individual. If evil is their destiny, it always was. If righteousness was their destiny, it always was. This life shows what it is through the refinement process. But like the refinement of metal, the metal was always there. It wasn't converted from another metal.

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Those that die before the age of accountability have taken on a carnal nature? Or are they never going to be Holy? By your description it has to be one or the other. So, which is it for those that die before the age of 8? Since they couldn't choose yet, because they are not accountable and yet they took on a mortal body.

What? Yes they can choose. My 2, 5, and 7 year olds make choices everyday - and I might add that many of them are not the correct choices. Little children do not sin because they cannot choose, rather, they are not accountable for their choices. Therefore they need no repentance or baptisim. In essence Christ has atoned for their mistakes before the age of 8.

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Enduring to the end involves a specific personal time span. The end for most, however, will not come until their final judgement. God knows if you want or do not want to endure and for what reasons. He is your final judge and whether that judgement comes through his chosen servants it will be a fair and righteous judgement. I hope that regardless what your circumstanes may be that you will always have the understanding that you can pray for the strength to endure to whatever conclusion God wants you to reach.

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What? Yes they can choose. My 2, 5, and 7 year olds make choices everyday - and I might add that many of them are not the correct choices. Little children do not sin because they cannot choose, rather, they are not accountable for their choices. Therefore they need no repentance or baptisim. In essence Christ has atoned for their mistakes before the age of 8.

Of course, that is what I meant, ... a responsible, held accountable choice. Does Christ atone for mistakes or sins? Does He atone for the math problem a got wrong in the 1st grade? Does He atone for the slip of the tongue when I was 5, trying to say the word "ask" but it came out something else? Does He atone for the child who accidentally knocks a candle over setting the house on fire?

Without accountability, I don't think there is a need for atonement. Am I wrong about that?

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I think Alma 34 answers your question

32 For behold, this alife is the time for men to bprepare to meet God; yea, behold the day of cthis life is the day for men to perform their dlabors.

33 And now, as I said unto you before, as ye have had so many awitnesses, therefore, I beseech of you that ye do not bprocrastinate the day of your crepentance until the end; for after this day of life, which is given us to prepare for eternity, behold, if we do not improve our time while in this life, then cometh the dnight of edarkness wherein there can be no labor performed.

34 Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful acrisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth bpossess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world.

35 For behold, if ye have procrastinated the day of your repentance even until death, behold, ye have become asubjected to the spirit of the devil, and he doth bseal you his; therefore, the Spirit of the Lord hath withdrawn from you, and hath no place in you, and the devil hath all power over you; and this is the final state of the wicked.

I was just about to post the same, I read Alma 34 this morning.

When you knowingly disobey God you're telling Him that you would rather serve Satan and not God.

When we are baptized, we are covenanting with God that we will do our absolute best to serve Him so that we can receive His Son's grace (Christ's atonement) and we renew that covenant every Sunday (read the Sacramental prayers (D & C 20:77).

If you don't strive continually to live up to that covenant, you're telling God, through your disobedience, that you don't want Christ's atoning sacrifice to apply to you.

Goodness I hope that made sense.

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Those who pass away from this life and have not learned their lessons for eternal life yet will be able to learn them in the Spirit World. If, however, they have hardened their hearts so much in this life that hard heartedness will continue with them in the next life and be a yoke about their necks dragging them down to the Adverasry's realm.

There is much missionary work going on in the Spirit World that can help those spirits who are held in bondage by the Devil. These can still be redeemed and they can still learn some of what they didn't learn in this mortal life. Teachers are available, such as the missionaries in mortality, who will teach them the fundamentals of what they missed in mortality. They can learn, but it is much harder to learn the things that they missed without a mortal body to help them and hence if they continue to procrastinate this time to repent there will come a time when they won't have that opportunity.

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I personally think that the things that matter for us is that we do this.

1) if we do improve our time while in this life

2) We doubled our talents

I believe when the scriptures say AWAKE and ARISE it means, 1) to awake to who we were before this life, and 2) Arise or do something that will cause us to improve ourselves and double our talents. This is what happened to Abraham in Abraham 3. The lord showed him who he was. This is why we shouldn't compare ourselves to others. Only to Christ, the perfect prototype. We are all imperfect.

So we must work out our salvation "with fear and trembling".

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