Is it time to back out?


Milluw
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Hey everyone! :bye:

I need some advice here. Its about a friend of mine, let me just call him X.

X and i used to talk alot, but then suddenly we just stopped and didnt speak for about a whole year. It seemed natural, just one of those things that happends when life sweeps you in different directions. I had no feeling of anything being wrong with him.

A year later he writes me on MSN, telling me that about the time where we stopped speaking together everything had completely colapsed for him. That it had been long coming, and that he couldnt fight it off. I already knew that he had some mental issues, and used to speak to him about it and try to help him with his problems.

He told me that back then he had not been completely honest with me about his issues, and that they were more deeply rooted than he lead on. He said that he had planned to kill a lot of people, and that he were a very angry person. Mainly angry with women, but also some men. He even told me that he had both planned to kill me and my sister. My sister stopped speaking to him completely, she doesnt want anything to do with him. Its just me that does now. He had some rage outbursts at people, and there have been people monitering him, and he went to a specialist to talk to. But when he were at a school, he met two other guys that were mentally "off" just as him. They all were angry at a few other members at the school, and so they sat down and made a list of people to punish. There were especially one girl that had made X very angry. But as the day came they had planned it, the third friend couldnt go through it and went to talk to someone at the school about this. To cut it shorter, many things happend since then and today X is being very well watched, and most of the people(meaning friends) around him have left. He goes to school, but is taken ill whenever the psychriatrist (a specialist of a sort) he speaks to says he needs to be pulled out of it, because of his mental state. He is very honest with her about his thoughts.

Its like he is pulled back and forth between two extremes, either he sounds like he thrives by the evil side of him, and speaks of it in a fearful but respectful way. Or he writes almost childlike, happy and innocent. And speaks alot about the church. He is not born in the church or a member, but is interested in learning more about it. He has been for several years now, but goes back and forth.

X also hears voices and sees the characters speaking to him. I am confused to what his mental diagnosis is, as it seems to be a mix of so many things that he is troubled by...

He assured me after that, that he is on pills now, and that they deprive him of most emotions, and that as long as he is on those he is not any danger.

Yet i hear him from time to time (especially these days), speak about wanting to kill people, and how they should not disrespect him, and how he for example at the end of this class wanted to kill the whole class. But that school year is about to end and next year he will be in a new, so he could spare their lifes. (After that he says things like, that he shouldnt kill but that he should learn to forgive.. a bit back and forth) His psychiatrist adviced him to at that point, to pull him out of the school as ill for a little while.

So, heres my problem. I want out. I am never one to quit on friends, even in the worst situations, but for over a year now since he told me all of this he has written basically daily and tells me the things in his mind. His instability is so obvious, and i can tell when he is having ups and downs. Ive been told countless times to back off, he is not safe, from two friends i have told this. But how? Apparantly im almost if not the only girl he speaks to now... and well, if he really is so dangerous, he could track me down alone on my name in the matter of one search. (Denmark is small, and with my real name its very easy to find me.) Also that he speaks with the missionaries and knows a few in the church by now. And if stopped talking to him, what if that made him angry?

Feel silly saying that, because i might sounds paranoid. But its just a matter of him not taking his pill, and ive noticed that he sometimes prefers not to do that. Also lately, he has become more unstable than ive seen him before.. he told me a week ago that theres a new guy he is seeing, but he doesnt speak. He just sits in the background, he doesnt know who he is, but he thinks he is much more evil than the other that speaks.

Also just, well i could really write alot but just what he writes, its like he goes faster from bad to good these days. Like i get a bit scared to write the wrong thing, i cant read him as well anymore, somethings going on. On top of that hes watcing stuff like saw, and playing games of similar types. That can hardly be good for him especially!? Am i just overreacting, or do i need to away from him?

Thanks alot to anyone who took the time to read it through, it became so long!! :embarrassed:

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Wow, that is terrifying! I used to work for a psychiatrist and had to enter codes for the patients' diagnosis. This sounds like "schizophrenia with psychotic features". I would get some professional advice from a mental health expert before I attempted to cut off contact with someone like that. Even if you tell him on a "good day", bad days will come and he might start to justify violent plans again. I had some unwanted attention from someone not anywhere near that scary, but I was still scared. I started parking my van somewhere else and considered faking a vacation on my blog just to get some relief. At that point, I called a therapist and she told me the best thing to do was ignore, ignore, ignore and eventually they would go away, but your situation is quite different.

I'm praying for you!

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Eowyn: I would turn him in, if it were not for that he claims he is already being kept check on. Also i would emagine that his therapist would turn him in, if he is really as honest to her as he claims. But i can't be sure, he also said that he at several points have become so angry with her he almost attacked her.

It is hard to tell what of the things he is saying is happening in his mind, and what isn't..

MorningStar: Thank you for your prayers :) Do you know how it is possible to get to reach a mental health expert? I have this idea of that if i call a clinique, they would want me to pay and get back in line for a session to get advice like that. But i dont know really...

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Eowyn: I would turn him in, if it were not for that he claims he is already being kept check on. Also i would emagine that his therapist would turn him in, if he is really as honest to her as he claims. But i can't be sure, he also said that he at several points have become so angry with her he almost attacked her.

It is hard to tell what of the things he is saying is happening in his mind, and what isn't..

MorningStar: Thank you for your prayers :) Do you know how it is possible to get to reach a mental health expert? I have this idea of that if i call a clinique, they would want me to pay and get back in line for a session to get advice like that. But i dont know really...

You need to turn him in regardless. He may claim to be in treatment but do you really know? This is a dangerous situation and he needs to be closely monitored if he can confide these things to you you need to be passing that information on to the correct authorities.

Let's go back to the part were he said that he was going to kill you, me personally I don't talk to or associate with or befriend people who want to kill me

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You need to turn him in regardless. He may claim to be in treatment but do you really know? This is a dangerous situation and he needs to be closely monitored if he can confide these things to you you need to be passing that information on to the correct authorities.

Let's go back to the part were he said that he was going to kill you, me personally I don't talk to or associate with or befriend people who want to kill me

Definately, report him!

Even if he is being monitored or on criminl probation or treatment, those types of letters & statements are manifestations that the auuthorities & those monitoring him need to be made aware of them.

They might not be aware of this taking place or aware of how back it has become. If he made threats ot statements about killing you or that have made you feel uncomfortable, those things ABSOLUTELY need to come out!

The manifestations of his desires indicates the beginning of something, usually & unfortunately that is a progression towards acting on those thoughts & fantasies.

I refer to the Theater shooting that occurred in Aurora Colorado USA a couple months back.

The shooter told his roommate & and another classmate 5-months earlier that he thought about killing people and that he would die killing people when his life was over.

If that information had been brought forwrd earlier, could the outcome have been different? Possibly.

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Let's go back to the part were he said that he was going to kill you, me personally I don't talk to or associate with or befriend people who want to kill me

Yeah, its also the main reason to why i feel like i want to back out.. I just justified talking to him still, because he seemed like he had become aware of his problem. Told me that i didn't do anything wrong to him for those plans, that he just at that point had justified it somehow in his mind. And then with the pills and all.. also saying that i were helping him talking to him.. but why shouldn't he be going back and forth with those thoughts, when he seems to be doing it with others...

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I refer to the Theater shooting that occurred in Aurora Colorado USA a couple months back.

The shooter told his roommate & and another classmate 5-months earlier that he thought about killing people and that he would die killing people when his life was over.

If that information had been brought forwrd earlier, could the outcome have been different? Possibly.

I would not have been able to live with myself, if anything like that happend! :( Have been talking to him over a year about this, maybe i should have taken action a long time ago.

Havent really kept records of our conversations, how is it possible to prove? If i save our conversations, how would they know its not just something i could have been sitting there writing?

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Ive thought about this, but i cant see any way other than asking him to know who her name is. And im afraid he might think that is suspicious. All i know so far is that it is a female.. I dont know his parents, or who else he keeps in contact with him at this moment that could help me find out. Everyone i knew that he knew, has completely cut contact with him a good while back..

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Ive thought about this, but i cant see any way other than asking him to know who her name is. And im afraid he might think that is suspicious. All i know so far is that it is a female.. I dont know his parents, or who else he keeps in contact with him at this moment that could help me find out. Everyone i knew that he knew, has completely cut contact with him a good while back..

Could the school help you find out? or maybe pass on the information?

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