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Fifty shades of black and blue and grey?

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I haven't watched TV in years, but I do watch Netflix occasionally nowadays. I've been hearing more about this show called 50 shades of grey. Now there is a TV in the cafeteria where I work that shows the news and discovery channel type programs. Today, I caught a bit of a news segment about a protest going on because this movie or book or whatever is about men who victimize women. Why is society glorifying this? It seems like this and what I have heard about shows like Breaking Bad and I don't know what else is on TV nowadays, it's no wonder the world is so messed up. What I have heard about this 50 shades movie, it reminds me of the following scripture. Maybe this is the direction where society is heading.
 

Mormon 9:9 And notwithstanding this great abomination of the Lamanites, it doth not exceed that of our people in Moriantum. For behold, many of the daughters of the Lamanites have they taken prisoners; and after depriving them of that which was most dear and precious above all things, which is chastity and virtue—

 10 And after they had done this thing, they did murder them in a most cruel manner, torturing their bodies even unto death; and after they have done this, they devour their flesh like unto wild beasts, because of the hardness of their hearts; and they do it for a token of bravery.

 
 Edit: From what I have gathered, this has been more popular with women. Why is that? 
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Ironically people of faith are in agreement with feminists on this one--50 shades is "mommy porn," and it does degrade women--feeding the fantasy that women should put up with all kinds of abuse on the slim hope that the man just might love them a bit. 

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...feeding the fantasy that women should put up with all kinds of abuse on the slim hope that the man just might love them a bit. 

 

Thank you, PC! This is exactly what I was wondering. On another thread, I believe by Catholiclady (I think that's her username), I posted a Youtube video called The Economics of Sex, which lays out a case that women have shortchanged themselves in the long run because, while at first, a woman can have any man she wants, the man ultimately gets to be the picky one when it comes to marriage. And men nowadays just aren't the marrying kind--not when there are so many women throwing themselves at them just to find the right guy. It's a terrible conundrum and one which has resulted from an apparent lack of values.

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From what very little I've heard about the book, it strikes me as more disgusting than anything else. I'm not sure a healthy, well adjusted woman (or man) would want to read it. 

 

PC knocked it out of the park. 

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Found the video. In light of this research, it is no wonder that women are being fed these fantasies as PC put it. Someone is lying to them, profiting from their desires to find a good man by giving them a perverted version of what should be. And they are gobbling it up. Will they rationalize that this is real? By glorifying it, maybe they'll find the one? I don't know, but it's worse than a slippery slope. It's like helplessly watching a train wreck about to happen. 

 

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I wonder how many sisters on this forum have secretly read books like Twilight, 50 shades, etc. The themes are the same. The women seem awfully quiet on this topic.  :P

 

I'm quiet on the topic because I don't want to give this garbage any more attention than it has unfortunately already gotten.

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I read a dual review of the Hunger Games and Twilight series, written by a woman.  She gave a yes to Hunger Games and a no to Twilight.  Same theme, Shalenfehl--Twilight has the girl sacrifice her world, her ways, her very life, for a boy that knows the price she will pay and lets her do it.  Her sacrifices aren't about saving a family, or making the world a better place.  In the Hunger Games, the girl hero sacrifices for her sister, overcomes wicked and selfish men, and does make life better for herself and her world.  Of course, what these two stories--and the 50 Shades series--lacks is God, or any sense of the Divine.  Godlessness really is hopeless bondage (yeah...I confess...pun intended).

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Yeah, I don't appreciate that insinuation. I don't put that filth in my head and none of my friends have, either. Well, some have read Twilight, but I haven't and won't. 

 

I think you're not giving the women of the Church enough credit here. Most have the good sense and sensitivity  to the Spirit enough to stay away from things like Fifty Shades. 

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I apologize, Eowyn. I think The Folk Prophet rubbed off on me just a little. And notquiteperfect is correct about the subject being garbage. But we are all facing a terrible moral crisis not only in America, but especially here in Utah. Many of us on this forum live on the Wasatch Front and it's clear to me that this isn't just a worldly thing. But if the issue of this topic woke up even a small handful of members who lurk on these forums, by putting a spotlight on it, then maybe more readers will throw away their books and decide not to buy any more. PC, your last line, "Godlessness really is hopeless bondage" reminds me of Winston in Orwell's book, 1984. If you haven't read it, may I recommend it? Winston didn't believe in God and ultimately ended up loving Big Brother. 

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I wonder how many sisters on this forum have secretly read books like Twilight, 50 shades, etc. The themes are the same. The women seem awfully quiet on this topic.  :P

 

I have read neither series, but Sister Vort read and loved the Twilight books. She is the best woman, and probably the best person, I know, and has a microscopic tolerance for pornography. So I don't think the two series are in the same class at all.

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I wonder how many sisters on this forum have secretly read books like Twilight, 50 shades, etc. The themes are the same. The women seem awfully quiet on this topic. :P

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I've been very vocal in my opposition to 50 Shades on FB. Other than article links I didn't feel I had anything to contribute here.

No I haven't read 50 Shades. It's erotica and BDSM to boot. That's worse IMO than an R-rated movie. I did read the Twilight series and liked it. I saw the movies too None of them were rated R. :)

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I've been very vocal in my opposition to 50 Shades on FB. Other than article links I didn't feel I had anything to contribute here.

No I haven't read 50 Shades. It's erotica and BDSM to boot. That's worse IMO than an R-rated movie. I did read the Twilight series and liked it. I saw the movies too None of them were rated R. :)

If it's rated R we won't watch it...that was our choice from our single days.

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I just had lunch with a friend.  He went to his dentist yesterday and the dental light bothered him a lot (he was recovering from a head injury and was very sensitive to light).  So they found a surgical mask and put it over his eyes like a blindfold.  Then one of the dental technicians asked if they could tie his wrists together and photograph him.  He agreed, and they printed out the photo, put a caption of "Fifty Shades of Dr. Grey" underneath, and posted it in the dentist's waiting room, where all the patients reportedly got a good belly laugh.

 

Has the world gone mad?

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I just had lunch with a friend.  He went to his dentist yesterday and the dental light bothered him a lot (he was recovering from a head injury and was very sensitive to light).  So they found a surgical mask and put it over his eyes like a blindfold.  Then one of the dental technicians asked if they could tie his wrists together and photograph him.  He agreed, and they printed out the photo, put a caption of "Fifty Shades of Dr. Grey" underneath, and posted it in the dentist's waiting room, where all the patients reportedly got a good belly laugh.

 

Has the world gone mad?

 

Yes. Yes it has.

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I don't read books, unless, I have to. As in have to.

 

I haven't had much interest in 50 Shades, but other than what others have mentioned of it, I'm not really even sure what the book or movie is about. I did see Magic Mike and felt that movie was super duper hyped to appear scandalous, which, it wasn't. It was actually a love story, with a few scenes of chiseled men wearing stereotypical stripper outfits (firemen etc.) dancing on stage - that was pretty much it. No excessive language, maybe one or two bombs, but there were many scenes of drinking and smoking - so that could be why it was rated R... Otherwise, it wasn't what people thought, especially, those that did not see it.

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Isn't it interesting that when non-members denigrate the Book of Mormon because they just "know" how bad/evil/twisted it is that many times our answer is "have you read it." Yet we re very ready to do the same here.

I haven't read it, not really interested in it either...but the hypocrisy is jarring.

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