Average Joe 241 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 Nathan Collier said he was inspired by the recent Supreme Court decision that made marriage equal. He said he was particularly struck by the words of dissenting Chief Justice John Roberts who claimed giving gay couples the right to marry, might inspire polygamy. And so this week, Mr Collier and his two wives, Victoria and Christine, entered a courthouse in Billings, Montana, and sought an application to legalise the trio’s polygamous union, “Right now we're waiting for an answer," Mr Collier told The Independent. “I have two wives because I love two women and I want my second wife to have the same legal rights and protection as my first.” He added: "Most people are not us. I am not trying to define what marriage means for anybody else - I am trying to define what marriage means for us." Read full article here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just_A_Guy 11618 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 My gut tells me that Collier won't win this one--if only because he's a white male. The case that legalizes polygamy will come from a Muslim man, a polyandrous woman, or free-love swingers in a group marriage. It won't come from a white Christian male. 4 lonetree, char713, Anddenex and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Average Joe 241 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 My gut tells me that Collier won't win this one--if only because he's a white male.The case that legalizes polygamy will come from a Muslim man, a polyandrous woman, or free-love swingers in a group marriage. It won't come from a white Christian male. you may be right, but it will be difficult to deny now that the can of worms has been opened. Any member of a polygamous religious group (Muslim or not) is now to claim they are being denied marriage as espoused by their faith. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just_A_Guy 11618 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pam 7560 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 For some reason this one does bother me as much as same sex marriage. I realize it is still against church policy and doctrine. But if some guy wants to take on having to put up with more than one woman...more power to him. 2 Average Joe and Backroads reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Folk Prophet 7324 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) My gut tells me that Collier won't win this one--if only because he's a white male. You forgot "straight". A white, straight male. Edited July 3, 2015 by The Folk Prophet 1 Just_A_Guy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skippy740 270 Report post Posted July 3, 2015 For some reason this one does bother me as much as same sex marriage. I realize it is still against church policy and doctrine. But if some guy wants to take on having to put up with more than one woman...more power to him. And to put up with all those Mothers-in-law... ugh! 2 Average Joe and Palerider reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palerider 1305 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 And to put up with all those Mothers-in-law... ugh! Amen to that one ...... I always tell people that's why polygamy stopped ...... Lol!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 4, 2015 Especially if your mother-in-law was also one of your wives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palerider 1305 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 Especially if your mother-in-law was also one of your wives.Oh my ..... What a nightmare that would be .... Lol!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Just_A_Guy 11618 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 Thanks for THAT image, Eowyn.I officially hate you. 3 hagoth, Palerider and rameumptom reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrShorty 881 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 Especially if your mother-in-law was also one of your wives.And it's all down the slippery slope from there to where someone ends up as his own grandpa and we all run off to establish "The First Self Righteous Church" headquartered in Pastagoola Mississippi where Ray Stevens will be our first prophet and we will worship squirrels as the representation of God's presence among us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mirkwood 3247 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 I don't worship squirrels, so your statement offends me. (tongue cheek etc.) 1 Palerider reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vort 16415 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 Especially if your mother-in-law was also one of your wives. Ooh. That's just...icky. Seriously, yuck. I believe that it was Biblically forbidden for a man to marry his wife's mother or daughter. I'm not actually one for mother-in-law jokes. I love my mother-in-law, despite her being sometimes difficult, probably due to some serious challenges in her life deriving (at least in part) from growing up in Nazi-Germany-occupied eastern France and watching her older sister captured and sent away to a brutal German camp, which she survived, but from which she never recovered. I think mothers-in-law should get a break from their children's spouses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skippy740 270 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 And it's all down the slippery slope from there to where someone ends up as his own grandpa and we all run off to establish "The First Self Righteous Church" headquartered in Pastagoola Mississippi where Ray Stevens will be our first prophet and we will worship squirrels as the representation of God's presence among us.The squirrels reminded me of this: 1 Backroads reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rameumptom 153 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 All I know is here in Indiana, our Religious Freedom Reform Act (RFRA), a response to a judge making SSM legal, opened the door for this: The First Church of Cannabis (Indianapolis) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palerider 1305 Report post Posted July 4, 2015 All I know is here in Indiana, our Religious Freedom Reform Act (RFRA), a response to a judge making SSM legal, opened the door for this: Is their motto .....Light up and be Happy ??? :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blackmarch 719 Report post Posted July 6, 2015 I seem to recall an article quoting someone high up in the chain saying that they should tackle polygamy next. Once that gets legalized I imagine polyandry would go with it as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NightSG 1741 Report post Posted July 6, 2015 And it's all down the slippery slope from there to where someone ends up as his own grandpa and we all run off to establish "The First Self Righteous Church" headquartered in Pastagoola Mississippi where Ray Stevens will be our first prophet and we will worship squirrels as the representation of God's presence among us. Wait...we haven't started that church yet? Guess that's why they keep looking at me funny on Sundays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palerider 1305 Report post Posted July 6, 2015 Wait...we haven't started that church yet? Guess that's why they keep looking at me funny on Sundays.The word is out about you ..... Lol!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NightSG 1741 Report post Posted July 6, 2015 The word is out about you ..... Lol!!!! I will admit to occasionally wishing I had a crazed squirrel handy on F&T Sundays. OK, "occasionally" is pretty much "every F&T Sunday and most other Sundays." 3 Average Joe, Palerider and Blackmarch reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Palerider 1305 Report post Posted July 6, 2015 I will admit to occasionally wishing I had a crazed squirrel handy on F&T Sundays. OK, "occasionally" is pretty much "every F&T Sunday and most other Sundays."Lol!!!! I knew it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Traveler 3699 Report post Posted July 6, 2015 Hmmmmm the legalizing of plural marriage could be a windfall for the church and those members with ancestors dating back to the Missouri and Nauvoo periods (perhaps even pre 1890 Utah) that lost property under the extermination order and property that was confiscated by state and federal governments because of polygamy. It would be better documented and more recent than current reputations being sought for by certain other "minorities" for loss of civil rights. 1 Floridagal reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mordorbund 4369 Report post Posted July 8, 2015 Wait...we haven't started that church yet? Guess that's why they keep looking at me funny on Sundays. Sorry about that. I try to get my wife to stop. I holler out, "Don't look Ethel --" but it was too late. 4 beefche, Palerider, Average Joe and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laniston 67 Report post Posted July 13, 2015 The irony is that legalizing plural marriage probably wouldn't mean it became church policy again and we'd be the ones continuing to oppose it. 1 Just_A_Guy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites