Guest Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I found this list recently and thought it might be interesting to discuss. It is supposed to be a list of "must haves" if a disaster hits. 1. 30-day food supply2. Five days water and water purification filters to last one year3. Vehicle toolkit4. Hatchet or machete5. Shovel and sledgehammer6. 50-foot extension cord7. Arctic-rated sleeping bags8. Eight-person tent9. Flashlights and batteries for the vehicle10. AM/FM weather radio11. Three wool blankets12. Winter coats13. One tin cloth coat14. 18 toilet paper rolls15. Ranch clothes16. Five gallons of gasoline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeSellers Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I found this list recently and thought it might be interesting to discuss. It is supposed to be a list of "must haves" if a disaster hits. … 10. AM/FM weather radio …A hand cranked radio is more reliable, and doesn't require batteries. Many of them also include a flashlight and some even have a cell phone charger. Please don't forget any critical medications you may need. If possible, have the doctor prescribe dry, not liquid, forms. They last longer. Lehi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Good list. I'd add one thing: 17. Make it all in one place, and portable in case you have to move quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Don't forget your pets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Don't forget your pets. They're an important part of your food storage. EarlJibbs, mordorbund, kapikui and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syme Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Try not to buy #5 alone, or the cashier might get suspicious. Daybreak79 and Sunday21 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceHopper Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I'm surprised that a first aid kit isn't on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Sorry, that's a terrible list! Yes, first aid kit. YES. Vehicle toolkit is not necessary only in disasters. Vehicle toolkit is necessary if you have a vehicle, not necessary if you don't have one. So... each of your cars should have one... disaster or not, you'll need it for cases when you get stranded in the middle of the road on your way home from work or some such. And no, you don't need arctic rated sleeping bags nor 3 wool blankets nor winter coats in South Florida. Not even in the middle of winter. I have no idea what a tin cloth coat is. And you don't need an 8-person tent if there are only 4 of you. And 50-foot extension cord is only needed if you have electricity - in a disaster, you should expect that you don't. Flashlights and batteries are not just for the vehicle - yes, it should be part of your vehicle toolkit. But, you should have one in your disaster pack. What you do need is a system where everything on the list can fit in a hiking back pack that you can carry... That means - each bag can't exceed 1/3 of the weight of the person carrying the bag. Pare it down to minimum. If disaster strikes and you have to evacuate, you don't want to have to cram 18 rolls of toilet paper in your pack. You need to learn to wash your butt without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I believe the "tin cloth coat" was a typo. "Thin cloth coat". I wonder why "cloth" is so important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I believe the "tin cloth coat" was a typo. "Thin cloth coat". I wonder why "cloth" is so important. To emphasize that it should not be made of sheet metal, which would reduce its insulative value. Daybreak79 and LeSellers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Hah....uhm.... hah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) To emphasize that it should not be made of sheet metal, which would reduce its insulative value. I'm gonna have to say... Vort here has lately been very stellar with his humorous wit, some appropriated with just the right youtube video. It's a side of him I've been enjoying a lot lately. Edited December 4, 2015 by anatess Sunday21 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 Try not to buy #5 alone, or the cashier might get suspicious. Try wine, condoms, duct tape and a softball bat at the same time. No matter what else you have in the cart, that combination looks bad. Shopping for three different people who live 30 miles from Walmart since one of them was taking me to dinner that night. Next time I'll remember to look at the list as a whole, because I'm sure that looked like a fun date with a backup plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 I believe the "tin cloth coat" was a typo. "Thin cloth coat". I wonder why "cloth" is so important. No, "tin cloth" is apparently a thing and is also known as "waxed canvas". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiritDragon Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I found this list recently and thought it might be interesting to discuss. It is supposed to be a list of "must haves" if a disaster hits. 1. 30-day food supply2. Five days water and water purification filters to last one year3. Vehicle toolkit 4. Hatchet or machete 5. Shovel and sledgehammer 6. 50-foot extension cord 7. Arctic-rated sleeping bags 8. Eight-person tent 9. Flashlights and batteries for the vehicle 10. AM/FM weather radio 11. Three wool blankets 12. Winter coats 13. One tin cloth coat 14. 18 toilet paper rolls 15. Ranch clothes 16. Five gallons of gasoline The list is probably fine for certain locations, but needs to be clarified. These are nice items to have if you are in an emergency that requires you to stay put, but not too practical if you need to get out. It is too much stuff to be concerned with carrying and will likely put a target on your back as the person to mug for supplies if you did try to carry it. I'd agree that the electrical cord is for less serious emergencies - and am I blind or is there no mention of matches/ lighters/ flint and steel (any fire starter)? I mean I see the gasoline and TP but you still need something to get it going :) I'd suggest starting with minimal food supply, a portable small water supply and a water filter (I like the Sawyer for it's portability and longevity), some form of fire starter, a poncho, a space blanket, a multi tool (or at least a good knife), basic first aid supplies as a starting point for basic minimal things you could essentially inconspicuously carry in a purse or fanny pack so as not to draw attention. If the plan is to have items on hand to stick around than portability doesn't become as much of an issue and to some extent the sky is the limit - I'd still want the above as a minimum but of course more food and water could be useful, better blankets and coats - clothing etc. depending on your weather in the area. Heck maybe even a nice supply of firewood. The trick would still be not to paint your house as a target for others who aren't prepared for a crisis to raid and take your stuff. It's a good idea to conceal your food storage, not boast your NRA affiliation, hide your ammo stockpile and so on. If all your neighbors are thinking they'll just come to your house in an emergency... you have a problem. NightSG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I'd suggest starting with minimal food supply, a portable small water supply and a water filter (I like the Sawyer for it's portability and longevity), some form of fire starter, a poncho, a space blanket, a multi tool (or at least a good knife), basic first aid supplies as a starting point for basic minimal things you could essentially inconspicuously carry in a purse or fanny pack so as not to draw attention. Mine is a cheap WalMart daypack that stays in the back seat of the car. Additionally, in the trunk there's a canteen, a couple of bow saws, (doubling up tools where practical comes in handy if you end up hiving others along, as well as providing a spare if you don't) kukri, hatchet and e-tool. Any or all of the trunk gear can be quickly attached to the pack or carried separately as needed. Beyond the first day, water plan is strain and boil. LeSellers and SpiritDragon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted December 8, 2015 Report Share Posted December 8, 2015 I should mention that I live in a college town of 18,000 (plus 9,000 students) surrounded by farmland, and most of my travel is through an hour or more of rural area before getting to any major cities. My "bug out" spot is my mom's house, ten minutes from town. Thus, wilderness survival is a primary concern; whether it's because the car broke down in the middle of nowhere and I just need to sit it out without the heater until someone can pick me up in a few hours, or something goes wrong and I need to get out of town for a few days, (last ice storm a couple years ago became a mess, with lots of college kids running 4WD trucks into yards and houses while playing on the ice) being prepared to "live off the land" relatively comfortably for a day or two regardless of weather (granted, it wouldn't have been fun in the ice storm, but I do keep a dry firewood pile in a sheltered area at the back of mom's property in case her power goes out - no fireplace, so a well constructed debris hut might be warmer than her house if the power goes out) is comforting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'd add something for defense and the training to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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