Are the media reporting about the undercurrent of anger in Europe right now?

[FunkyTown]

    Obviously, after a roving band of 1000 men sexually assaulted and robbed women in Cologne, there has been a lot of discussion in Europe about the undercurrent of rage building at the moment.

 

Are the mainstream media in the US discussing this at all?

 

You have the 1000 man sex attack in Cologne.

 

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-assaults-idUKKBN0UK1NQ20160106

 

(None of whom could speak English or German and very few were able to be identified by police).

 

You have Denmark passing a law that allows them to remove valuables from refugees to help pay for their resettlement:

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-denmark-government-defends-plan-to-strip-refugees-valuables-to-pay-for-their-stay-a6782916.html

 

You have roving bands of vigilantes in Sweden:

 

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/12/as_sweden_goes_so_goes_the_west.html

 

And Greece:

 

http://migrantreport.org/armed-vigilantes-attacking-migrant-boats-off-greece-hrw/

 

 

A friend of mine once said, "The Europeans are warm and friendly and giving until they are not. And then you have to watch out."

 

You can see a real simmering anger going on in Europe right now. Is the US aware of just how upset Europe is getting? Is the mainstream media reporting it in the US? What are they saying?

[Guest]

US media is currently reporting Europe as this utopian land of multiculturalism that has their arms wide open for refugees and immigrants and all that stuff that is only going to enrich the lives of Europeans and lifting the lives of everybody else.  And they are all doing their part to save the planet from global warming climate change.

[FunkyTown]

US media is currently reporting Europe as this utopian land of multiculturalism that has their arms wide open for refugees and immigrants and all that stuff that is only going to enrich the lives of Europeans and lifting the lives of everybody else.  And they are all doing their part to save the planet from global warming climate change.

 

Hunh. That's a real shame. The 5th estate's job is to investigate and provide transparency. If the media doesn't report the truth, how can people make intelligent decisions?

 

In Germany, the media took about 3 days to report on this. This caused a full-on flip out. The mayor also suggested women needed to keep all men at arms length to protect themselves, which caused a huge amount of anger. It was victim blaming and unhelpful.

 

Kudos to the New York Times, by the way, who actually did report this story.

[Windseeker]

I spoke with a friend last night who moved here from Sweden (he's Brazilian, his wife is Swedish) and they are so happy they are no  longer there. The rapes are getting out of hand and he has 3 daughters. He mentioned that in the EU he used to be able to travel easily to Portugal without a passport but now every country has locked down and now you must show you're a member of the EU. He moved here mostly for economic reasons but is very grateful to be here in the U.S. 

 

To answer your question I would second what Anatess has to say.

Edited January 6, 2016 by Windseeker

[Guest]

Hunh. That's a real shame. The 5th estate's job is to investigate and provide transparency. If the media doesn't report the truth, how can people make intelligent decisions?

 

In Germany, the media took about 3 days to report on this. This caused a full-on flip out. The mayor also suggested women needed to keep all men at arms length to protect themselves, which caused a huge amount of anger. It was victim blaming and unhelpful.

 

Kudos to the New York Times, by the way, who actually did report this story.

 

The 5th estate is almost a joke in America in the same vein as current American pop music.

 

If it were not for the internet, both the 5th estate and Music would be dead.

 

But yes, the Cologne news is on the major media outlets.  You just have to dig for it.  Fox has its spin, CNN has its spin.  Traditional media still has its uses.  You just have to know how to navigate them to get what "really" is going on and what it means to you.  The average American, in my estimation, wouldn't know about it because it's not "talked about".

Edited January 6, 2016 by anatess

[beefche]

Is it being reported on Facebook? Isn't that where everyone gets their news? (/sarcasm)

[NeuroTypical]

Mainstream media in the US is (or should be) dead.  It's the dinosaur media.  It's time has come and gone.  About the only mainstream media outlet I go to these days is BBC.  It's a source of how I learn about what's happening in America.  (If I could get the WSJ for free I'd go with them too, but they're too spendy for me.)

 

These days I grab stuff from places that admit their biases.  And I grab a mix - both left and right, both secular and religious, both pro- and anti- whatever is being reported.  That way, I can read what a leftie says about something and adjust two notches for the wind, and what a rightwinger says and adjust two notches the other way, and come closer to the truth.  (I say this as a borderline-libertarian rightwinger.)

 

And of course, Stratfor, with it's "we make money only when we're right" model is a great source for relevance, even if it's totally bereft of the right or wrong aspect.  

 

Yeah, if you still go to Fox or CNN, network TV or newspapers that have been around for 100 years, you need to do a little soul searching about how you stay up to date on current events.  At this point, wiki-friggin-pedia is a better source than any of that jargle, because you'll usually see sources from all over.

Edited January 6, 2016 by NeuroTypical

[Guest]

Is it being reported on Facebook? Isn't that where everyone gets their news? (/sarcasm)

 

Speaking of Cologne and Facebook... admittedly, that's how I found out about it.  It was on the "Suggested Posts" from a German news source.  That's what triggered me to start digging on it.

 

I would really love to get my hands on the logic FB uses to Suggest Posts.  My suggested posts are not the same as my husband's.  He has Suggested Posts about Psy's new song... You got it from my daddy.

[Guest]

By the way FT.  My first indication that it's not hunky dory with the foreigners in Britain was a news clip about a town (can't remember the name) in Britain that got taken over by Middle Easterners.  This was about 2 or so years ago... or even more than that.  An amateur reporter took video clips and was doing a running commentary of a Sharia Law march - they wanted to get the town on Sharia.  A group of guys verbally abused the reporter and told her the white people are all going to become Middle Easterners because they're all going to take white women as one of their wives and make Middle Eastern babies or something like that.  They said for her to watch out because she's going to have a Middle Eastern baby.  I didn't make much of that video clip until I saw more video clips surface once in a while.

[NeuroTypical]

Good reading:

 

https://www.stratfor.com/weekly/war-between-two-worlds

[Crypto]

(In american political terms because left and right wing are reversed)
European liberals are similar to, but very different from American Democrats, even though the reporting from Europe seems to extol that political party's virtue(what they consider virtue at least). It works vice versa too, with American liberals projecting onto the European one's. It's a bit interesting actually.

 

Europe does seem to have a more accurate view overall of everything that is going on in the United states than the United states seems to have of what is going on in Europe.

At least in Denmark there are strong feelings of disgust and contention on either side of the political divide between all 8 major party contenders about immigration, and refugees. This was still an issue maybe 10 years ago and it just seems to be amplifying over time. It's definitely a point of major disagreement. As a side note there was/is also a general sentiment that United State should intervene with the Russia and Ukraine conflict.

[Blackmarch]

Obviously, after a roving band of 1000 men sexually assaulted and robbed women in Cologne, there has been a lot of discussion in Europe about the undercurrent of rage building at the moment.

Are the mainstream media in the US discussing this at all?

You have the 1000 man sex attack in Cologne.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-assaults-idUKKBN0UK1NQ20160106

(None of whom could speak English or German and very few were able to be identified by police).

You have Denmark passing a law that allows them to remove valuables from refugees to help pay for their resettlement:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/refugee-crisis-denmark-government-defends-plan-to-strip-refugees-valuables-to-pay-for-their-stay-a6782916.html

You have roving bands of vigilantes in Sweden:

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/12/as_sweden_goes_so_goes_the_west.html

And Greece:

http://migrantreport.org/armed-vigilantes-attacking-migrant-boats-off-greece-hrw/

A friend of mine once said, "The Europeans are warm and friendly and giving until they are not. And then you have to watch out."

You can see a real simmering anger going on in Europe right now. Is the US aware of just how upset Europe is getting? Is the mainstream media reporting it in the US? What are they saying?

Theres an undercurrent of rage building everywhere.

[JojoBag]

The media is controlled by exactly six corporations owned or managed primarily by globalists/socialists.  It is politically correct to love Muslim refugees right now, until the same thing happens to the owners/controllers of these corporations.  The media is nothing more than the "Pravda" propaganda arm of the government.  If anyone in the main stream media said that the sky was blue, I'd go outside myself and make sure. 

 

The media only reports what will further the socialist agenda and slant everything to meet that.

[NeuroTypical]

So again, "the media" is no longer the only choice for news.  Blogs and tweets are routinely breaking major stories these days.  Small-town independent newspapers are one click away for whatever is making national news. YouTube will often give you on-site random citizen coverage within hours.  

 

Nobody needs "the media" any more.  We just continue to go there because of habit and ease.