1 Nephi, Chapter 5


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9 And it came to pass that they did rejoice exceedingly, and did offer sacrifice and burnt offerings unto the Lord; and they gave thanks unto the God of Israel.

Potter and Wellington included a text stating they felt they had located the altar built to offer sacrifices while in the Valley of Lemuel. Their reference was to a "high place" being it was an altar placed high above the canyon, whereas "high place" as a worship area was never relative to height, but to a place of high honor.

Lehi and his family were integrated into corporate worship, and the only place where sacrifices could be made was at the temple in Jerusalem. There is no explanation why, when Lehi was aware of the law to sacrifice only in the temple in Jerusalem, that he would build an altar and make an individual sacrifice.

Previously, the Jaredites had been indoctrinated with individual worship, yet there is no record of any altar being built for sacrifice or worship.

10 And after they had given thanks unto the God of Israel, my father, Lehi, took the records which were engraven upon the plates of brass, and he did search them from the beginning.

This could lead into a lengthy discussion on the evidences of inscriptions on metal. There are five instances cited, the oldest being the amulets at Ketef Hinnom of which a new article is about to be released in "Near Eastern Archaeology"... cite emails of Chris Rollston (ESR) and John Tvedtnes (BYU), March 27, 2004. The priestly benediction is the oldest known scripture, dating before the babylonian captivity. Of interest to mormonism in the tomb studies is that after the captivity, not all of the remaining people were of the poor class, citing this tomb as evidences of continued occupancy of Jerusalem after the captivity and for several generations.

One can only speculate on the weight of the brass plates, but that has been discussed elsewhere.

16 And thus my father, Lehi, did discover the genealogy of his fathers. And Laban also was a descendant of Joseph, wherefore he and his fathers had kept the records.

As is generally agreed, the brass plates originate in the Northern Kingdom (Sorenson)

21 And we had obtained the records which the Lord had commanded us, and searched them and found that they were desirable; yea, even of great worth unto us, insomuch that we could preserve the commandments of the Lord unto our children.

"we"... "us"

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Originally posted by serapha@Apr 2 2004, 07:57 PM

9 And it came to pass that they did rejoice exceedingly, and did offer sacrifice and burnt offerings unto the Lord; and they gave thanks unto the God of Israel.

Potter and Wellington included a text stating they felt they had located the altar built to offer sacrifices while in the Valley of Lemuel. Their reference was to a "high place" being it was an altar placed high above the canyon, whereas "high place" as a worship area was never relative to height, but to a place of high honor.

Lehi and his family were integrated into corporate worship, and the only place where sacrifices could be made was at the temple in Jerusalem. There is no explanation why, when Lehi was aware of the law to sacrifice only in the temple in Jerusalem, that he would build an altar and make an individual sacrifice.

Previously, the Jaredites had been indoctrinated with individual worship, yet there is no record of any altar being built for sacrifice or worship.

But with the Lord sending Lehi and his family out of Jerusalem, then they didn't have access to a temple, so the sacrifices I believe, were still received favorably from the Lord.

I've seen a supposed make up of the plates and they were HEAVY!

There's something I think more important in this chapter.

Sariah loses faith in Lehi and she complains (in verse 2) because she thinks her sons were killed. Then when they return (verse 7 and 8) she realizes that the Lord has blessed her sons and that obviously her husband's visions were from the Lord and she gains faith again.

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Lehi and his family were integrated into corporate worship, and the only place where sacrifices could be made was at the temple in Jerusalem. There is no explanation why, when Lehi was aware of the law to sacrifice only in the temple in Jerusalem, that he would build an altar and make an individual sacrifice.

I am sure that Lehi didn't consider the absence of the temple a problem, after all, his forefathers had made sacrifices to the Lord without the benefit of the temple. God accepts what we have to offer, especially when He commands us to make those sacrifices knowing full well what we have and where we are, etc.

Previously, the Jaredites had been indoctrinated with individual worship, yet there is no record of any altar being built for sacrifice or worship.

The Jaredites left around the time of the Tower of Babel which was before the ritual killings were commanded by God. That might be why there were no altars built for that purpose.

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Previously, the Jaredites had been indoctrinated with individual worship, yet there is no record of any altar being built for sacrifice or worship.

The Jaredites left around the time of the Tower of Babel which was before the ritual killings were commanded by God.  That might be why there were no altars built for that purpose.

Hi there!

I don't think that there was any altar mentioned in the book of Ether, whereas, they came from a culture that family built altars to worship the one true God. The comparison was that those who were indoctrined in the use of family altars, never instituted the concept in mesoamerica while those who were indoctrinated against family altars, instituted the practice.

Interesting thought.

~serapha~

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Originally posted by serapha@Apr 2 2004, 09:52 PM

Previously, the Jaredites had been indoctrinated with individual worship, yet there is no record of any altar being built for sacrifice or worship.

The Jaredites left around the time of the Tower of Babel which was before the ritual killings were commanded by God.  That might be why there were no altars built for that purpose.

Hi there!

I don't think that there was any altar mentioned in the book of Ether, whereas, they came from a culture that family built altars to worship the one true God. The comparison was that those who were indoctrined in the use of family altars, never instituted the concept in mesoamerica while those who were indoctrinated against family altars, instituted the practice.

Interesting thought.

~serapha~

Generations have their rebellious ....and faithful. One maybe seen in one generation and not in the next...but then again in the next...

My brother isn't a member of the Church. But his children have converted.

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