Because the Administrator suggested we take this discussion to this forum, here is the continuation. That is the usual cop-out for one who avoids answering.  But let me try to give you the benefit of the doubt and explain even further. Your position (as I understand it -- feel free to correct any of the following statement) is: You don't need to do anything to gain salvation. Christ has done it all for you.  He paid the price. There is nothing within man to be abl