askandanswer Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 6 hours ago, pwrfrk said: Would that make the church more of a True Church, or less of one? And why? This is a silly question because the answer is so simple. The answer is if it came from God then that would be true and if it came from man then it would be less true. The only issue then becomes finding out where it came from and we can all do that at any time through faith study prayer and the guidance of the Holy Ghost. I don't see what the problem is. The same principles and process would apply if homosexual sex became legal every second day and remained illegal on the other days. This is an unlikely scenario but one we should all be prepared to accept if we become sure that it comes from God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, MormonGator said: didn't know @mirkwood had a Ph.D When it comes to @mirkwood it's more likely to be a Ph aile D mirkwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarklin Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Can’t believe three pages about a hypothetical that will never happen.🤡 Overwatch and Midwest LDS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Why should we care if it happens? It's God's church and He can do with it whatever He wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirkwood Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 11 hours ago, MormonGator said: I'm English. Black mark #27... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 29 minutes ago, mirkwood said: Black mark #27... Didn't we throw them out a few hundred years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overwatch Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 8 hours ago, askandanswer said: Why should we care if it happens? It's God's church and He can do with it whatever He wants. Um, actually, even Father follows laws or he never would have became our Father. Fether 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fether Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Overwatch said: Um, actually, even Father follows laws or he never would have became our Father. Beat me to it. But if we dive into it... he CAN do whatever he wants. He is exalted because everything he wants is in line with the law. Overwatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 45 minutes ago, mirkwood said: Black mark #27... missing a 0 mirkwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Overwatch said: Um, actually, even Father follows laws or he never would have became our Father. Indeed He does, but I'm not sure if the law against homosexual sex is the kind of law, the breach of which, would lead to Him no longer being our Father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anddenex Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, askandanswer said: Indeed He does, but I'm not sure if the law against homosexual sex is the kind of law, the breach of which, would lead to Him no longer being our Father. It would change the law of chastity, and if the law of chastity isn't a law -- how much more then could be changed? It would also change marriage -- husband and wife. It appears to be this kinda of law as it would then change a many good aspect of the law we currently know the Father himself keeps. Midwest LDS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlimac Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 ok I just read through all these threads, and hijacking aside,a very small percentage of the posts deal directly with the question. "That would never happen" doesn't answer the OP's question. I double dog dare you to answer truthfully what YOU personally would do. I personally would leave the church in a nanosecond if this scenario played out. I would take some time to find one that seemed not only to be dedicated to keeping marriage pure but also to be teaching faith and supporting those who sincerely want to leave the practice behind. Here's a link to video from MassResistance . There are lots of videos by this group and I find them very thought provoking. pwrfrk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlimac Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 All that ☝️ being said, I don't think it will ever happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fether Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, carlimac said: ok I just read through all these threads, and hijacking aside,a very small percentage of the posts deal directly with the question. "That would never happen" doesn't answer the OP's question. I double dog dare you to answer truthfully what YOU personally would do. I personally would leave the church in a nanosecond if this scenario played out. I would take some time to find one that seemed not only to be dedicated to keeping marriage pure but also to be teaching faith and supporting those who sincerely want to leave the practice behind. Here's a link to video from MassResistance . There are lots of videos by this group and I find them very thought provoking. I would dive deep into study of the words of the prophets prior to the announcement of supposed event. If my heart and mind never felt rested on it, I would leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askandanswer Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, carlimac said: I double dog dare you to answer truthfully what YOU personally would do. All you have to do is pray about it with faith, humility and a sincere desire to know, and then follow the answer you receive. There's nothing really hard about it. If God opens the gates to greater acceptance of homosexual practices in His church, that's something for God to worry about, not me. Edited July 22, 2018 by askandanswer Sunday21 and SilentOne 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirkwood Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 12 hours ago, Grunt said: Didn't we throw them out a few hundred years ago? 1776: The original Brexit. Sunday21 and askandanswer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirkwood Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 53 minutes ago, carlimac said: Ok I just read through all these threads, and hijacking aside,a very small percentage of the posts deal directly with the question. I blame @MormonGator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, mirkwood said: I blame @MormonGator I plead guilty to that. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwrfrk Posted July 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 Thank you Carlimac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday21 Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 (edited) On 7/20/2018 at 4:56 PM, NeuroTypical said: I'm 4-5 years into a 20 year bet with an atheist buddy of mine. He figures SSM in the temple is a mere 30 years away, once we refresh our church leadership with a few younger generations. I figure he's up in the night. Whoever loses the bet, puts on a pink tutu and sings "I'm a little teapot". Send photos! Will the performance be public? Televised? I am not sure that ‘younger’ leadership is coming any time soon! But I imagine that your friend is thinking of a change of generations so generation z, or later. What will the generation after z be called? A? The flying car generation? The 10 lost tribes return generation? Edited July 22, 2018 by Sunday21 NeuroTypical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome1232 Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 @carlimac@pwrfrk I've got a real life friend that believes this exact scenario is a real thing. She used the priesthood becoming available to people of all lineages as her example too. The issue is they aren't comparable. The priesthood ban, at it's introduction, was said to be temporary (even if Brigham Young didn't think it would happen before the second coming of Christ, he still acknowledged this wasn't a permanent thing). Who does and doesn't hold the priesthood isn't a core foundational doctrine of the church. To change who is eligible doesn't contradict any core doctrine. The family though? The nature of the family? That stuff is core. It's foundational. If Pres. Nelson got up and announced that the church was wrong about the nature of the family and said that same gender unions were sanctioned by God that would contradict core, foundational, scriptural doctrine. If that happened it would mean at the very least that Pres. Nelson wasn't speaking for God. It would mean Pres. Nelson was leading God's church astray. I don't believe God would allow his church to be lead astray like that. If that happened it would shake my faith to the very core. Because I believe that The Church of Jesus Christ is truly Christ's church here on earth, and Pres. Nelson was called by God to lead His church. My simple response is that your comparison is flawed, and it's a silly hypothetical that won't ever happen. mirkwood and SilentOne 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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