Grunt Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 I really enjoyed this list. Some of the things I already do, others I'm going to work on. Quote 1. Help them understand why we partake of the sacrament. 2. Especially fathers—read the scriptures to your children. 3. Let them have father’s blessings. 4. Prepare them for patriarchal blessings. 5. Teach them the significance of BIC (Born in the Covenant). 6. Show them how all things lead to the temple. 7. Help them to be honest in their tithing. 8. Warn them about the plague of pornography and how to spot and resist it. 9. Write each child or grandchild a letter, expressing your faith and love. http://www.ldsliving.com/President-Nelson-Shares-9-Crucial-Things-Parents-Should-Teach-Their-Children/s/89141 JohnsonJones, Blackmarch, classylady and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, Grunt said: I really enjoyed this list. Some of the things I already do, others I'm going to work on. http://www.ldsliving.com/President-Nelson-Shares-9-Crucial-Things-Parents-Should-Teach-Their-Children/s/89141 I'm not a parent, but this really is great advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, MormonGator said: I'm not a parent, but this really is great advice! It's funny because Sunday night we started reading the Book of Mormon, one page a night in a round robin by verses, as a family. It's been very rewarding. Vort, Blackmarch and Jane_Doe 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted August 23, 2018 Report Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Grunt said: It's funny because Sunday night we started reading the Book of Mormon, one page a night in a round robin by verses, as a family. It's been very rewarding. Are your wife and kids members? I know you've told us once... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 32 minutes ago, MormonGator said: Are your wife and kids members? I know you've told us once... No. My kids turn 7 this fall. My wife is more active than I am if that's possible, but she is not yet a member. She isn't ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Grunt said: BIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, zil said: That went over my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Grunt said: That went over my head. BIC, the company that led the ballpoint revolution. Vort and JohnsonJones 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, zil said: BIC, the company that led the ballpoint revolution. Ahhhh. Long day. I have no idea how many fountain pens I own now. zil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Grunt said: I have no idea how many fountain pens I own now. Dude, switch to ink samples - they're cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, zil said: Dude, switch to ink samples - they're cheaper. I don't know what those are either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Grunt said: I don't know what those are either. Now remember, I'm only showing you this so you'll stop buying expensive pens. Ink samples are ~$1.25 - $3 (depending on the volume, source, and ink), so you can get a lot of them and have fun with your existing pens rather than getting new ones: Goulet, Anderson, Vanness, PenChalet all offer them - probably more places. Edited August 24, 2018 by zil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKi Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 What is Born In Covenant ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, zil said: Now remember, I'm only showing you this so you'll stop buying expensive pens. Ink samples are ~$1.25 - $3 (depending on the volume, source, and ink), so you can get a lot of them and have fun with your existing pens rather than getting new ones: Goulet, Anderson, Vanness, PenChalet all offer them - probably more places. 1 I Can't Stop Buying Pens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Just now, Grunt said: I Can't Stop Buying Pens That's why you distract yourself with ink in pretty colors. Or get a therapist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Grunt said: I Can't Stop Buying Pens I thought military people were supposed to have good personal discipline. You could do what I do - put the pen into a wish list. Point out to yourself that you already have X number of pens that don't get used much. Point out that the pen is pretty much just like those, so it'll just go into that pile. Come back to the wish list a couple weeks later and realize you really don't need that pen and probably won't enjoy it any more than the pens you've got, and delete it from the wish list. A month later, you'll add it back, but after the third time of adding/removing, it'll generally stay gone. I'm pretty much over my pen-acquisition phase. I still window shop, tell myself the above, and move on. But I do have a thing for ink. I'm trying not to buy more (especially in colors similar to what I already have) until I've used up several. I keep trying to enter a paper-acquisition phase, but there aren't as many unique and interesting fountain-pen-friendly papers out there, and I've pretty much go them all, so I don't feel inspired by window shopping. In short, eventually you have "enough" and get over it. (Or you get a therapist.) SilentOne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, zil said: I thought military people were supposed to have good personal discipline. You could do what I do - put the pen into a wish list. Point out to yourself that you already have X number of pens that don't get used much. Point out that the pen is pretty much just like those, so it'll just go into that pile. Come back to the wish list a couple weeks later and realize you really don't need that pen and probably won't enjoy it any more than the pens you've got, and delete it from the wish list. A month later, you'll add it back, but after the third time of adding/removing, it'll generally stay gone. I'm pretty much over my pen-acquisition phase. I still window shop, tell myself the above, and move on. But I do have a thing for ink. I'm trying not to buy more (especially in colors similar to what I already have) until I've used up several. I keep trying to enter a paper-acquisition phase, but there aren't as many unique and interesting fountain-pen-friendly papers out there, and I've pretty much go them all, so I don't feel inspired by window shopping. In short, eventually you have "enough" and get over it. (Or you get a therapist.) Don't join MassDrop, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Grunt said: Don't join MassDrop, then. I wouldn't. I don't comprehend the appeal of such things. ETA: If that's the problem, cancel your account. Edited August 24, 2018 by zil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, zil said: I wouldn't. I don't comprehend the appeal of such things. ETA: If that's the problem, cancel your account. I don't HAVE a problem. I like pens. Sunday21, zil and pwrfrk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, JayKi said: What is Born In Covenant ? A child born to parents who have been sealed in the temple is said to be "born in the covenant". Said child does not need to be sealed to their parents in a separate temple sealing because they are already sealed to their parents by virtue of being born in the covenant. Edited August 24, 2018 by zil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrShorty Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 Now that we have established by BIC is, can someone help me understand its significance? I always thought that a living child being sealed to parents was the same as being born in the covenant, but he specifically mentions BIC. Is he alluding to some significance of being born in the covenant that is somehow different from being sealed to parents after birth? Or is he using BIC as a catch all for being sealed to parents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted August 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, MrShorty said: Now that we have established by BIC is, can someone help me understand its significance? I always thought that a living child being sealed to parents was the same as being born in the covenant, but he specifically mentions BIC. Is he alluding to some significance of being born in the covenant that is somehow different from being sealed to parents after birth? Or is he using BIC as a catch all for being sealed to parents? No. I think, since it is for us to impress upon our children, it points towards the importance for them to marry in the Temple and have children. They have an opportunity that converts don't have, unless they are minor or unmarried converts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estradling75 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 26 minutes ago, MrShorty said: Now that we have established by BIC is, can someone help me understand its significance? I always thought that a living child being sealed to parents was the same as being born in the covenant, but he specifically mentions BIC. Is he alluding to some significance of being born in the covenant that is somehow different from being sealed to parents after birth? Or is he using BIC as a catch all for being sealed to parents? Being BIC is not a reflection of or on child. It is a reflection on the parents. (It is not necessarily a bad reflection, depending on their circumstances). However this article is talking about faithful parents raising kids. In that situation you want your grandkids to be BIC. It might not happen but you want to teach your kids the importance of everything that is necessary for that to happen. Iggy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatess2 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 50 minutes ago, MrShorty said: Now that we have established by BIC is, can someone help me understand its significance? I always thought that a living child being sealed to parents was the same as being born in the covenant, but he specifically mentions BIC. Is he alluding to some significance of being born in the covenant that is somehow different from being sealed to parents after birth? Or is he using BIC as a catch all for being sealed to parents? The thing is, unless your kids have convert friends who got sealed to their parents in the temple and they wonder why they didn't get to do that too, they wouldn't necessarily know they are sealed to their parents unless you teach them they are. SilentOne 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatess2 Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 14 hours ago, Grunt said: I really enjoyed this list. Some of the things I already do, others I'm going to work on. I'm 9 for 9. 2 days ago, I gave my son who told me "he is interested in some girl but this girl doesn't seem to be interested in him what should he do? " this lesson: Your goal is to inspire her. Whether you're 14 or 40, friend, girlfriend, wife, even enemy... it's the same goal. Inspire them. You want to show them the path to Christ. So, you're interested in this girl. Inspire her. If she decides to be just a friend, a girlfriend, your future wife, or even an enemy, you have not wasted your time. And, when you become their inspiration, chances are, they're going to want to be around you a lot. And... because my son is a drummer... I had to go get him to play that Chicago song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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