God's Motivation and other Lost Boy Questions

[goor_de]

6 minutes ago, Jane_Doe said:

Going to be blunt here: in God's big picture, a person's house on this earth is worth jack.  He's got a much better one for you later.  Learning a lesson about humility and looking beyond our earthly junk-- now THAT is valuable.  

Do we small minded children struggle to see that?  Totally.   

ok, better way
rent a house

[Jane_Doe]

Just now, goor_de said:

ok, better way
rent a house

.... ??? .... how does this pertain to learning humility?

[Anddenex]

He who hath ears to hear let him hear. He who hath eyes to see let him see. Our understanding of the gospel is a direct result of our desire and willingness to understand truth, or to see things as they really are - light and truth.

[goor_de]

2 hours ago, Jane_Doe said:

.... ??? .... how does this pertain to learning humility?

it must be a house right away ?

 

I notice what I fail

at the mentality

the thing like you see

Edited September 20, 2018 by goor_de

[Lost Boy]

So do you have charity because you are commanded to?  Because you love the person?  Or because doing so will bring you glory?  Or perhaps a combination of the above.

God does what he does for his glory.  Do we do what we do for our glory?  Is this selfishness?  if not, what is it?

[mikbone]

1 hour ago, Lost Boy said:

So do you have charity because you are commanded to?  Because you love the person?  Or because doing so will bring you glory?  Or perhaps a combination of the above.

God does what he does for his glory.  Do we do what we do for our glory?  Is this selfishness?  if not, what is it?

 

For some real enlightenment you might try reading some of the apostles words.  Maxwell is one of my favorites.  

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1975/04/the-man-of-christ?lang=eng 

[Anddenex]

6 hours ago, Lost Boy said:

So do you have charity because you are commanded to?  Because you love the person?  Or because doing so will bring you glory?  Or perhaps a combination of the above.

God does what he does for his glory.  Do we do what we do for our glory?  Is this selfishness?  if not, what is it?

So do you have charity because you are commanded to? 

The majority (at least from my experience) of humans seek charity because God commanded it, and charity is a gift we receive from God through prayer. The ultimate ideal is to obtain charity, and to exercise charity not because God commanded it, but because we are charitable.

Because you love the person?

We as imperfect humans exercise love and charity due to our love and charity for others. We also exercise love and charity because God commanded it.

Or because doing so will bring you glory?

If we are being charitable, exercising charity (the pure love of Christ) it will have nothing to do with bringing us glory. Charity seeketh not her own, therefore, like Christ, we will glorify the Father in our actions. This is true charity.

Or perhaps a combination of the above.

In our imperfect state, our exercise of charity appears to accomplished through our true devotion to others and because God commanded it; although a commandment, Christ exercised charity because he is charitable. Christ did not need a commandment to exercise charity; although, he was well aware of the command.

God does what he does for his glory.  Do we do what we do for our glory?

God's work and glory is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of his offspring. We have no glory to do anything for, and if we do something for "our glory" it is pride. If we do the Father's work and glory, then we are truly in the right frame of heart and mind.  If we are doing anything for our glory, we are missing the mark.

Is this selfishness? 

When God performs his work and glory is this selfish? No!

When we perform God's work and glory is this selfish? No!

When we perform anything unto ourselves, our work and glory, is this selfish? Yes!

if not, what is it?

God is not selfish. God is perfect. His perfect charity removes all selfishness from his actions.

[Rob Osborn]

9 hours ago, Lost Boy said:

So do you have charity because you are commanded to?  Because you love the person?  Or because doing so will bring you glory?  Or perhaps a combination of the above.

God does what he does for his glory.  Do we do what we do for our glory?  Is this selfishness?  if not, what is it?

Kind of asking the wrong question. Why do we love our children? Why do we serve our children? Why do we sacrifice for our children? Because of love. That is the glory and it's the same for God.

[LePeel]

16 hours ago, goor_de said:

 

the question is why is there disease, hunger, natural disasters, poisonous animals if it is not necessary

Why are those things not necessary? And why must something be necessary in order to exist?

[LePeel]

11 hours ago, Lost Boy said:

So do you have charity because you are commanded to?  Because you love the person?  Or because doing so will bring you glory?  Or perhaps a combination of the above.

God does what he does for his glory.  Do we do what we do for our glory?  Is this selfishness?  if not, what is it?

Can man render service and sacrifice and love selflessly? Of course he can, and often does. Is man greater than God? I personally could not care less who knows of my good works. Am I greater than God?

 

Christ is the ultimate demonstration of the character of our God. The motives for such concern, and labor, and sacrifice go beyond mere recognition.

[goor_de]

10 hours ago, LePeel said:

Why are those things not necessary? And why must something be necessary in order to exist?

they are not necessary
it is not a test to keep the commandments

example
10 commandments of God.
suffering must be justified.
not everyone loses his house.
this is not necessary for salvation
not everyone gets sick.
fazit:
there is no need for celestial glory.

 

i think

Remember the flood.

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The holy scriptures only see humility in connection with God's command

not with destruction.

Edited September 21, 2018 by goor_de