Jeries Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 Does Christian marriage work to enter the highest level of the celestial kingdom. Sorry if there is a mistake in English. English is not my first language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anddenex Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 In order to enter the highest degree of the Celestial kingdom a person must be sealed by proper authority in the temples. Marriage is good, but is not sufficient to enter the Celestial kingdom. Our bishops perform marriages (not sealings similar to what you call Christian marriages), not in the temple, although these marriages are good they are not what the Lord has commanded in order to enter his rest in the Celestial kingdom. SpiritDragon, jerome1232, Midwest LDS and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome1232 Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) To add to that, we believe any marriage done outside of the temple is dissolved on death. 'Till death do you part are the words right? So you die, you aren't married, you don't qualify for the celestial kingdom. Temple sealings done by priesthood authority are effective for time and eternity. A couple that is sealed in the temple are forever bonded to one another and will still be sealed as husband and wife after death. Children born to a couple that has been sealed are also born into this eternal bond, and are eternally sealed together as a family unit. Edited October 10, 2018 by jerome1232 Anddenex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bytebear Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 But marriages can be performed by proxy for deceased ancestors, so everyone who is worthy will be given the opportunity for a sealed marriage. MrShorty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) https://mormonhub.com/forums/topic/65852-does-christian-marriage-work-to-enter-the-highest-level-of-the-celestial-kingdom/?tab=comments#comment-992581 Edited October 10, 2018 by Just_A_Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome1232 Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said: https://mormonhub.com/forums/topic/65852-does-christian-marriage-work-to-enter-the-highest-level-of-the-celestial-kingdom/?tab=comments#comment-992581 I was reading that thread and wondering where my comment went haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 41 minutes ago, Just_A_Guy said: https://mormonhub.com/forums/topic/65852-does-christian-marriage-work-to-enter-the-highest-level-of-the-celestial-kingdom/?tab=comments#comment-992581 Well, yes, but does Christian marriage work to enter the highest level of the celestial kingdom? Just answer the question! Then we'll ask it again in a few weeks to see if your answer has changed. One can never be too sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 49 minutes ago, Vort said: Well, yes, but does Christian marriage work to enter the highest level of the celestial kingdom? Just answer the question! Then we'll ask it again in a few weeks to see if your answer has changed. One can never be too sure. The only way a member of your church can be sealed is via marriage, whether it's Christian or not. So marriage is essential on the path to the celestial kingdom in latter-day saint doctrine. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome1232 Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Maureen said: The only way a member of your church can be sealed is via marriage, whether it's Christian or not. So marriage is essential on the path to the celestial kingdom in latter-day saint doctrine. M. Pretty sure he was being snarky about the fact that this thread is an exact duplicate of an older thread posted in September, which was already fully answered. Vort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted October 10, 2018 Report Share Posted October 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Maureen said: The only way a member of your church can be sealed is via marriage, whether it's Christian or not. So marriage is essential on the path to the celestial kingdom in latter-day saint doctrine. To be anal-retentively picky, that's not strictly true. The temple sealing could conceivably be done to a couple in Europe who hadn't yet married civilly. That would make them sealed for eternity in the eyes of God, but they would not be married in the eyes of their nation. For example, I remember a case some years ago where a young engaged couple were in an automobile accident. As I recall, they were actually on their way to the temple for the ordinance, though perhaps I'm misremembering and they were just very close (as in days away) from having the sealing done. The sister was killed, and the brother was severely injured. As I recall, the survivor received First Presidency approval to be sealed to his fiancée (by proxy, of course), which would make him sealed to her despite never having actually been married to her. So from a doctrinal context, it is technically the sealing to spouse that is vital rather than the marriage for time. Having said that, I agree with the spirit of what you're saying. My response was just a bit of mild snark, as jerome1232 pointed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplains Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 On 10/10/2018 at 6:58 AM, jerome1232 said: To add to that, we believe any marriage done outside of the temple is dissolved on death. Does that mean any person who never got married in the temple will remain single forever after death? Or can a living person be sealed to a departed single person so they are in a state of being married before the resurrection? Thanks, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome1232 Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 5 hours ago, theplains said: Does that mean any person who never got married in the temple will remain single forever after death? Or can a living person be sealed to a departed single person so they are in a state of being married before the resurrection? Thanks, Jim We do sealings in the temple in proxy for those who have died to give them the opportunity to accept that covenant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_A_Guy Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 6 hours ago, theplains said: Does that mean any person who never got married in the temple will remain single forever after death? Or can a living person be sealed to a departed single person so they are in a state of being married before the resurrection? Thanks, Jim The general belief is that those who died without having an opportunity for marriage in life, will have an opportunity to be sealed to another deceased person, through the intermediary of two living proxies, prior to the resurrection. (We interpret Matt 22:30/Mark 12:25 as teaching that the resurrection will not be a chaotic state of marrying, giving in marriage, and feverishly arguing over which widows should be reunited with which preferred spouse; because all such issues will have been resolved prior to the resurrection.) At present, however, the Church will only perform a marital sealing for a deceased couple that in life was married to each other (or at least cohabited in a common-law marriage). The Church did, for a brief period, perform the sort of living-to-dead marriages that you posit (primarily to living single women who wanted to be sealed to Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, or some other deceased church leader); but AFAIK this practice ended before the turn of the 20th century. mordorbund 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplains Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, jerome1232 said: We do sealings in the temple in proxy for those who have died to give them the opportunity to accept that covenant. Are they considered married then? For example, if a living believer wanted to seal with a single unbelieving person whom had died, would they be considered married in the afterlife? Thanks, Jim Edited October 20, 2018 by theplains added extra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome1232 Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 10 hours ago, theplains said: Are they considered married then? For example, if a living believer wanted to seal with a single unbelieving person whom had died, would they be considered married in the afterlife? Thanks, Jim I totally misread your comment. See JAG's post above. For some reason I thought you were talking about those who had been married in life but never sealed in a Temple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted October 21, 2018 Report Share Posted October 21, 2018 10 hours ago, theplains said: Are they considered married then? For example, if a living believer wanted to seal with a single unbelieving person whom had died, would they be considered married in the afterlife? Thanks, Jim Still waiting for those answers to @mordorbund's questions, Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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