SpiritDragon

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36 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said:

I accept everything you have to say here, but I think I'm ok.  I keep my diet varied and usually save the excesses for cheat day. 

 @SpiritDragon can chime in here, but many of these "you shouldn't do more than X" guidelines apply in general, but exceeding them on occasion is not bad, yes?  Must we never again do an all-you-can-eat rib night because we might exceed 70 grams of protein?  Fasting would be another example.  "Don't skip breakfast!  That's a bad habit!  You could end up [insert all the bad stuff we know about what happens when people don't eat breakfast]!"   And yet, a monthly fast involving skipping two meals, well, there are some health benefits that come with that. 

A co-worker once told a fun story about a friend who went on the all-carrot diet, and her skin turned orange.  My wife had a friend with bizarre "only this and never that" diet notions, and gave birth to a preemie with low birth weight and the possibility of a lifetime of health issues.  Danger Will Robinson indeed!

Did the math - I had over a pound of chicken yesterday. Like 600 grams.  Am I gonna be able to play the flute doc?

If you already can play the flute you can expect to do so tomorrow :)

Most of Western civilization eats well in excess of their protein needs which does put them at increased risk for kidney troubles and cancer compared to groups who are getting closer to around 5-10% of their daily calories from protein. Some studies will claim that the protein puts you at no greater risk because they compare high protein diets to standard western diets that are already high in protein. So if you're eating a lot of protein, especially from animal sources you do an increased risk of trouble down the road, but it is a risk that is matched to the general population around you. You might look at it more as something that you can reduce your chances of having kidney damage and cancer by reducing your protein intake.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1262767/ - Study drawing the conclusion that high protein is of no risk for the average healthy person. This is an ongoing debate without a definitive answer. We know for a fact that reducing protein is helpful for those with kidney failure and that eating more plant based helps to prevent comorbidities that may play a causative role in the progression of kidney disease. For instance, diabetes is one of the biggest predictors of kidney damage and interestingly enough eating less animal products appears to be protective - now whether that's because of the protein, fat or other inflammatory components I don't think has been clearly established.

One thing that would certainly give me pause giving any one a green light across the board to eat as much protein as they want is the finding that as much as 75% of people with kidney damage who we know would be susceptible to excess proteins are unaware they have a problem yet. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17976426  I read somewhere that an estimated 26 million people in the united states have diagnosed kidney damage, if 3 times that many have it and don't know it that's a little concerning because unless we all go get tested we don't know if we are among them. I suppose one could at the very least go ask to have kidney function tested before embarking on increased protein intake.

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11 minutes ago, anatess2 said:

How about I share the lunches I make... 

Food with artistic qualities!  Love it!

I took this picture of my lunch once.  Was totally surprised at my ability to take a decent photo.  Who knew lunch could be sexy?

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Did my weekly weigh-in last night.  

No change.  Still at 360.  

I have an idea what went wrong.  Too much soda, had a couple of late-night fast food snacks, and being sick got in the way of exercise.

What bothers me is how easily progress can be stymied.  Before all of this, I was eating WAY worse than at any point during this last week.  I'd have thought I'd see a bigger difference by not having so much bad stuff.  I guess the initial success reflects that, but still...

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2 minutes ago, unixknight said:

being sick got in the way of exercise.

Sick or injured, yep, big stumbling block.  This has shown up in every single new burst of enthusiasm I've had.  For some reason, my left calf has hurt for 4 days straight.  I don't think I injured it exercising, more like stretching too hard when asleep at 3am.  And yet here I am - missing a week of elliptical and jumprope and walking around the building - 3 bits of my exercise backbone.

Have faith bro.  Eating better will reap benefits.  Get well and get back to moving around, and you'll get there.

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Just now, NeuroTypical said:

Sick or injured, yep, big stumbling block.  This has shown up in every single new burst of enthusiasm I've had.  For some reason, my left calf has hurt for 4 days straight.  I don't think I injured it exercising, more like stretching too hard when asleep at 3am.  And yet here I am - missing a week of elliptical and jumprope and walking around the building - 3 bits of my exercise backbone.

Have faith bro.  Eating better will reap benefits.  Get well and get back to moving around, and you'll get there.

I have two physical activities I'd really like to get back into... Biking and the punching bag.  

Biking is, of course, rather seasonal.  I have been known to bike in January before but I have this weird mental block... My house is less than a half mile from a bike trail, BUT to get to it I'd have to go uphill and then back down hill.  The hill is steep enough that I'd have to walk it for sure, going both ways.  That's embarrassing enough that I just want to load my bike onto my car or into my truck and drive it.... and yet, that feels wonky too because the distance from my house to the trail head is only a small fraction of the total length of the trail, which I can ride easily.  I'm my own worst enemy.

The punching bag is fun, but my house was not built with soundproofing in mind so when I use it you can hear the punches, and the creaks of the chain all through the house.  Being as I have a little one who takes frequent naps...   Not much of an option at the moment except for those windows of time when I'm home AND she's awake AND we're not doing anything else together (like having dinner, playing, etc.) AND I'm not working or doing some other task.  I know this is one of those problems that's solvable with enough initiative but again... hard to motivate.

 Yeah, I know.   Excuses, excuses, excuses.  I know.  I didn't get fat because I'm bad at excuse mongering.

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Today's exercise session constituted 1 week of my Tuesday-Thursday-Saturday addition to my normal trudging.  Muscles were sore to one degree or another in between, but no so much that I couldn't do the routine according to schedule.  Doing this right after I trudge is, I'm sure, why I'm being successful - it's a built-in trigger so that I don't have to "find time" to do it. :)

Thanks @SpiritDragon!

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@SpiritDragon, thanks for starting this.

I’ve always been heavy— I was 260 when I left on my mission, and 180 when I came home; but over the next 15 years soared up to 350.  I don’t know that getting back under 200 is a realistic goal given my lifestyle preferences, sedentary profession, and culinary tastes.  It sure would feel good to be able to take some longer hikes over more rugged terrain, though; and to be able to sit in *any* chair at a family campout rather than having to make sure I’m in the “Daddy chair”.  I think I’d be doing very well if I could eventually get down to 230 or so.  

We’ve talked about this before, but I did a variant of the Keto diet between April and late June of last year (I just tried to keep my carbs below 30-40g per day; I didn’t bother trying to balance macros or anything like that) and went from 350 to 305.  I went off in early July when my work transferred me closer to home, which meant I was living with my family full-time (as opposed to just coming home on weekends) and made it harder to keep a separate diet (when you’re living in an apartment on your own it’s easy to control what you eat, because you control what kinds of foods are in your kitchen to begin with).  I slowly crept back up to 318 over the last six months, and got back on the keto wagon last Monday—weighed in today at 314.  

I’m not being uber-careful about logging my food or balancing food groups; I’m mostly trying to do somethig that is a) low-carb, b) doesn’t require me to spend lots of time in the kitchen, and c) doesn’t make my palate revolt too much.  I’m generally doing a protein shake *or* two eggs and two sausage links for breakfast, two bun-free burgers with minimal condiments *or* a bun-free Arby’s french dip for lunch, and then a keto-friendly dinner—I do a lot of slow-cooker crack chicken on a low-carb tortilla, or a baked seasoned chicken breast with a slice of provolone.  For snacks I’m allowing myself one Costco protein bar and a handful of mixed nuts, and one twelve-ounce Gatorade G2 per day (I find it helps alleviate “keto flu” and cures a sweet tooth.) 

I figure I’ll stick with it for as long as it works, or at least until school gets out; and then take a month or two off in the summer before either starting it up again—or trying something else—in the fall.  

Edited by Just_A_Guy

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Hey Everyone, I've had a really busy last week and will still be quite busy at least through next weekend. I've just got time to say I'm happy to see everyone is keeping at it and to welcome @Just_A_Guy aboard. What can I say January can busy at the gym and I'm burning the candle at both ends right now.

I was wondering if there is someone who knows a way to create a spreadsheet that we can all edit with updates of goals and outcomes on a weekly basis. I don't know if this platform would allow anything like that - maybe we could create a wiki? Any ideas would be helpful so that we can see at a glance what everyone is working on and how they are doing.

I'll try to be back to offer more support when I have better time availability.

Go team!

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